Orthopedic Surgeon Dr. Bart Rask

[BGrantFan]

Denial of what? he has knee issues. Maybe he gets surgery. maybe rest makes him able to play. I don't know. You don't. And Rask doesn't. I'm not going to think his career is over, and start looking to get out of his contract because of it.

I never said his career was over, either, but the inflammation is only going to get worse as the bone keeps getting worn from rubbing together. That even happens after micro-fracture as time moves on.

 

[RoyToy]

Denial of what? he has knee issues. Maybe he gets surgery. maybe rest makes him able to play. I don't know. You don't. And Rask doesn't. I'm not going to think his career is over, and start looking to get out of his contract because of it.

I guess you're just not understanding that bone on bone doesn't get better and there aren't very many surgeries available to fix it, especially for an elite athlete. And with rest it's not going to magically get better for an extended period of time. It only gets worse the more his bones grind and degenerate.

 

[BGrantFan]

Anger? Grief? Gimme a break. Yes, discussing amputation of Roy's leg shows just how angry I am, doesn't it? Grief? Did he die?

I agree.

 

[RR7]

I'm surprised so many in here were and likely still are interested in Chris Paul, then.

 

[BGrantFan]

I guess you're just not understanding that bone on bone doesn't get better and there aren't very many surgeries available to fix it, especially for an elite athlete. And with rest it's not going to magically get better for an extended period of time. It only gets worse the more his bones grind and degenerate.

I'm hoping RR7 has some sort magical treatment to make the cartilage come back. He has snark working for him, but I don't think that's going to help Roy.

 

[BGrantFan]

I'm surprised so many in here were and likely still are interested in Chris Paul, then.

I agree and I posted that in another thread. Although Paul only has one terrible knee, compared to Roy's two terrible knees.

 

[RR7]

You're right, but crying about it on the internet is certainly going to bring back the cartilage, right?

 

[RoyToy]

Steve Patterson is supposed to be on the show at 5:05 tomorrow to discuss Brandon Roy's medical reports during the 2006 draft and they already mentioned that SP said the only red flag was his ankle, nothing on his knees. If that's the case then that's the final straw for me with this Blazers training staff if they checked him and that's all they found.

 

[BGrantFan]

You're right, but crying about it on the internet is certainly going to bring back the cartilage, right?

I'm just as upset as you are. Probably more, since if what Brandon said about his knees is correct, he is never going to be a max-level/franchise player.

 

[RR7]

I'm just as upset as you are. Probably more, since if what Brandon said about his knees is correct, he is never going to be a max-level/franchise player.

So you're not upset at all, is what you mean? No, wait, you're right. Probably more. I'm not mad. You're crying over worst case scenario. So be it. Have a nice night.

 

[BGrantFan]

Steve Patterson is supposed to be on the show at 5:05 tomorrow to discuss Brandon Roy's medical reports during the 2006 draft and they already mentioned that SP said the only red flag was his ankle, nothing on his knees. If that's the case then that's the final straw for me with this Blazers training staff if that checked him and that's all they found.

Rask did say that the cartilage degeneration is something that can just show up after multiple surgeries. I'm guessing that they had taken an MRI prior to the max deal, and nothing showed up. The extension was well over a year ago.

We're cursed.

 

[Minstrel]

It's clearly not good that a doctor says that these types of situations generally have such grim options, but I'll wait til a doctor actually studies Roy's knees and gives a diagnosis before I decide Roy is likely finished as a high-level player.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

When the meniscus is damaged or is surgically removed, the knee-joint can become loose, or unstable. Without the protection and stability of a healthy meniscus, the surfaces of the knee would be bone-on-bone, essentially the same problem that leads to micro fracture surgery.

Roy's knee buckled when he was going around a screen. His knee is unstable and this could lead to an even more serious injury. The L.A. doctor saying MF surgery wont help leads me to believe that Dr. Rask is more right than wrong when it comes to bone-on-bone analysis.

Fuck me running.

 

[BGrantFan]

So you're not upset at all, is what you mean? No, wait, you're right. Probably more. I'm not mad. You're crying over worst case scenario. So be it. Have a nice night.

I'm not crying about anything. I am wondering why you are lashing out at me, but whatever. I know that answer. Anyhow, this is about Roy, and the future of the Blazers. If you don't want people speculating, you probably shouldn't visit a message board.

Did anyone who listened to that interview come out of it feeling better about Roy's future?

 

[Wheels]

 

[Wheels]

in retrospect I apologize to anyone who that may have offended.

 

[RoyToy]

Rask did say that the cartilage degeneration is something that can just show up after multiple surgeries. I'm guessing that they had taken an MRI prior to the max deal, and nothing showed up. The extension was well over a year ago.

We're cursed.

I'm just talking about before the draft. At that point Roy had had two knee surgeries one on each knee. They're saying Steve Patterson said their only red flag when it came to Roy was his ankle. If that's the case I want to know if they did their own report on him, and if they did...wow.

 

[Minstrel]

I agree and I posted that in another thread. Although Paul only has one terrible knee, compared to Roy's two terrible knees.

With one terrible knee, Paul is wrecking house. Perhaps on two bad knees, Roy can merely be an All-Star.

 

[BGrantFan]

I'm just talking about before the draft. At that point Roy had had two knee surgeries one on each knee. They're saying Steve Patterson said their only red flag when it came to Roy was his ankle. If that's the case I want to know if they did their own report on him, and if they did...wow.

Oh. Yeah, I agree with that. Previously knee injuries should be at least considered during a draft. I don't believe any of what Patterson says, though. He's the cicada who only shows up when bad news surfaces for the Blazer organization.

 

[BGrantFan]

With one terrible knee, Paul is wrecking house. Perhaps on two bad knees, Roy can merely be an All-Star.

Depends on the extent of Paul's "bone-on-bone", though. Perhaps Roy's case is more severe, even in just one knee.

 

[RoyToy]

It's clearly not good that a doctor says that these types of situations generally have such grim options, but I'll wait til a doctor actually studies Roy's knees and gives a diagnosis before I decide Roy is likely finished as a high-level player.

Ultimately all of us are speculating including Rask but bone on bone is pretty straight forward. It's not going to magically stop hurting(in fact it only gets worse with time) and there's not really a surgery out there to fix the problem. I'm not really sure what to hold out hope for.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I think it's important to remember that Dr. ElAttrache viewed MRI's of Roy's knees that were six months old.

He's certainly looks a lot worse now than he did back in April/May.

 

[BGrantFan]

It's clearly not good that a doctor says that these types of situations generally have such grim options, but I'll wait til a doctor actually studies Roy's knees and gives a diagnosis before I decide Roy is likely finished as a high-level player.

The LA doctor did make a diagnosis. He said that micro-fracture would not help either sore knee. I can't see how that is a positive. It's not up to the LA doc to tell Roy to retire. The Blazers would have to initiate that process, and we're at least two seasons away from that, IMO.

 

[BGrantFan]

I think it's important to remember that Dr. ElAttrache viewed MRI's of Roy's knees that were six months old.

He's certainly looks a lot worse now than he did back in April/May.

6 more months of bone on bone. Sucks, doesn't it?

 

[The Professional Fan]

I listened to the interview with Rask as well and it was immensely deflating. Not to mention Suke spent the prior hour of the show talking about his experiences dealing with the same issue Brandon is dealing with and how it basically ended his football career.

 

[Minstrel]

Depends on the extent of Paul's "bone-on-bone", though. Perhaps Roy's case is more severe, even in just one knee.

But perhaps Roy's case is less severe. That's what is still to be determined.

 

[BlazerBeav]

Roy's knee buckled when he was going around a screen. His knee is unstable and this could lead to an even more serious injury. The L.A. doctor saying MF surgery wont help leads me to believe that Dr. Rask is more right than wrong when it comes to bone-on-bone analysis.

Fuck me running.

Wait, his knee is unstable? Thanks for that amazing diagnosis. Of course that flies directly in the face of the New Orleans team doctor that examined it after the game, but you clearly have a better understanding of the situation. Good thing we have you here!

 

[BGrantFan]

But perhaps Roy's case is less severe. That's what is still to be determined.

Actually, it has been determined. The LA doctor said that micro-fracture would not help Roy's knees. Roy is quoted as saying this, and that his knees are something that he will have to deal with for the rest of his career.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Wait, his knee is unstable? Thanks for that amazing diagnosis. Of course that flies directly in the face of the New Orleans team doctor that examined it after the game, but you clearly have a better understanding of the situation. Good thing we have you here!

Watch the replay of Roy coming off that screen, his left knee buckled off of a simple move.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Damn what's with all the hostility towards posters speculating?