OT: Basketball Rule Help Needed

[BalancedMan]

Hey, so I was playing some pickup ball today at lunch and this guy, who was the typical complainer (he's about 6'2", 350lbs and does illegal screens and pushes you out of your box out all day long) said that what I did wasn't legal. Let me know:

I ran the baseline, stepping out of bounds doing so. I cut back in and definitely have one foot on the ground in the court, my other foot may have still been in the air and not "established position" back on the court yet. He said that since I didn't get both feet back into the court, it was illegal for me to catch the pass and lay the ball up and in. I told him this wasn't the NFL or women's soccer (obviously trash talking a bit). I'm not certain I didn't have both feet in, and was pretty confident this wasn't a rule, but he was adamant. I told him I'll have to look it up....but can't find the definitive answer anywhere...maybe I just don't know the right terminology or what section of the rule book to look in. If anyone knows, I'm sure someone does, then please pass it on.

And if this isn't basketball/Blazer related enough, feel free to move this to the OT forum. I just know that a lot of people don't go to the OT forum but most people in the main forum know basketball pretty decently.

As for that dude I was guarding...people called him out on his illegal screens, and his non-existent ticky-tack fouls (for example, got the ball stolen clean, even his teammates agree) and he called a foul. He got pissed and just stormed off the court...very classy when you're playing 5-on-5, last game of the day, and no one is waiting to step in....

 

[hasoos]

As long as no part of you is out of bounds when you catch the ball your legal.

 

[BGrantFan]

As long as no part of you is out of bounds when you catch the ball your legal.

You need one foot inbounds to re-establish position on the court when coming in from being out of bounds. Mr. Moving Screen was wrong.

 

[hasoos]

You need one foot inbounds to re-establish position on the court when coming in from being out of bounds. Mr. Moving Screen was wrong.

Right but he had already said that was done. So he was legal.

 

[WarriorFan]

In the NBA, I think, you need 2 feet inbounds before you can touch the ball. It actually happened a couple days ago in a Utah game (can't remember who they were playing) where Kirilinko tipped a pass, ran out of bounds, and had to get both feet in before he could catch it for the layup. The announcers were looking at the replay to see if he did, in fact, get both feet in. But maybe they were wrong too.

 

[DaRizzle]

In the NBA, I think, you need 2 feet inbounds before you can touch the ball. It actually happened a couple days ago in a Utah game (can't remember who they were playing) where Kirilinko tipped a pass, ran out of bounds, and had to get both feet in before he could catch it for the layup. The announcers were looking at the replay to see if he did, in fact, get both feet in. But maybe they were wrong too.

lol...no...I swear to god I just saw the exact opposite in a Lakers game recently and I even tivoed the play several times....all you need is one foot inbounds (touching the ground)to be legal...the other leg can be hovering out of bounds and you are okay

 

[Hank The Dwarf]

You need to completely re-establish yourself in-bounds before you can touch the ball. Both feet must be back in-bounds.

Side note - I was playing last week in a Adult Rec game and a kid from the other team ran the entire sideline out of bounds on a fast break - the ref blew the play dead and called a technical foul on the other team - something about having to re-establish yourself in-bounds as quickly as possible - total judgement call that I had never heard of.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Pick up rules? Yeah, one foot should work. You can't be the last person to touch the ball before going out of bounds and then come back in and touch it again.

 

[WarriorFan]

Pick up rules? Yeah, one foot should work. You can't be the last person to touch the ball before going out of bounds and then come back in and touch it again.

Maybe that was the issue in the game I was watching. Kirilenko was the last person to touch it before going out and touching it again. Maybe that's why he needed 2 feet in.

 

[BGrantFan]

You need to completely re-establish yourself in-bounds before you can touch the ball. Both feet must be back in-bounds..

According to FIBA rules, only one foot needs to be inbounds. Regardless, the guy who decided to whine about this play deserves nothing but mock and ridicule.

 

[BalancedMan]

Thanks. I assumed I was right. The guy is an idiot, but I'm fairly new at this gym and it's pretty much the same crew that shows up every day so they know him better than they know me. It's annoying, but I don't mind guarding him, I'm good guarding post players given that I'm only 6'1".

 

[DaRizzle]

Thanks. I assumed I was right. The guy is an idiot, but I'm fairly new at this gym and it's pretty much the same crew that shows up every day so they know him better than they know me. It's annoying, but I don't mind guarding him, I'm good guarding post players given that I'm only 6'1".

Just Trevor Ariza their dumb Rudy asses

 

[Denny Crane]

The rule is that you only need one foot in bounds to establish yourself in bounds, but the other foot may not be out of bounds.

When you jump in the air, like jumping OB over the side or end line, you are considered in bounds until you land and vice versa - if you jump from OB and are within the lines of the court but haven't landed, you are OB.

You cannot be dribbling and step OB then back in and continue dribbling. In fact, if you are the last person to touch the ball and go OB (ball still in bounds), you may not touch it again unless it touches the backboard or rim, or another player.

 

[Natebishop3]

I hate people like that. I usually drive big guys nuts because they're used to using their 300 lbs to basically push people out of the way in the paint. I just get low, plant a leg between theirs, and it becomes very hard to move me backwards. I had one fat guy get so frustrated that he literally threw me to the ground. Offensive foul? I think so....

I realize this is offtopic, but I also hate the fat guys that sweat so much that my arm is covered in their nasty liquids when I'm trying to guard them. Kind of like this..

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[TradeNurkicNow]

And that is why I hate play shirts and skins

 

[BalancedMan]

I hate people like that. I usually drive big guys nuts because they're used to using their 300 lbs to basically push people out of the way in the paint. I just get low, plant a leg between theirs, and it becomes very hard to move me backwards. I had one fat guy get so frustrated that he literally threw me to the ground. Offensive foul? I think so....

That's the same move that I pull. I put my leg/knee between theirs so they get comfortable and rest up against it. That way, when someone makes a pass to them, they're inadvertently using my leg as a crutch. I then pull it away and they fall backward on their ass, or at least get their balance/momentum thrown off and don't catch the pass.

I have a pretty big wingspan (6'5" decent for 6'1" tall) so I can usually front well but he would just shove me with both hands away from him. Clearly dirty. When I was behind him, I went to box out and he shoved me from behind. Not expecting it, one of my arms flailed up and smacked him in the face; he was pissed saying that "you can't hit me"...yo, I never would have if you didn't push me out of the way like that. It was just ridiculous.

I don't mind guarding taller players. I did that a lot at the Nike intern games...I'd always have to guard the 6'5" post player or the 6'4" dude who played SG at Tulane at the time. So I played both on the wing and post depending who I was on. I can't always keep up the best in iso, but in the post I've very difficult, as my fellow interns would attest.

Personally though, I either want to guard the best or worst player. Best because I pride myself on defense and when my guy misses a shot I get satisfaction like I just made my own shot. Worst player...because then I cheat on him bad and double and play the passing lanes...I get a lot of steals and tipped balls that way.

Anyways, thanks for the advice. Sounds like I know basketball a bit better than him. Which I expected, just couldn't find the proof.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

For pick up basketballl, I'm pretty sure the rule is to go to the instant replay to make a final decision and get the call right.

Can't take these decisions to lightly given what's at stake.

 

[Natebishop3]

That's the same move that I pull. I put my leg/knee between theirs so they get comfortable and rest up against it. That way, when someone makes a pass to them, they're inadvertently using my leg as a crutch. I then pull it away and they fall backward on their ass, or at least get their balance/momentum thrown off and don't catch the pass.

I have a pretty big wingspan (6'5" decent for 6'1" tall) so I can usually front well but he would just shove me with both hands away from him. Clearly dirty. When I was behind him, I went to box out and he shoved me from behind. Not expecting it, one of my arms flailed up and smacked him in the face; he was pissed saying that "you can't hit me"...yo, I never would have if you didn't push me out of the way like that. It was just ridiculous.

I don't mind guarding taller players. I did that a lot at the Nike intern games...I'd always have to guard the 6'5" post player or the 6'4" dude who played SG at Tulane at the time. So I played both on the wing and post depending who I was on. I can't always keep up the best in iso, but in the post I've very difficult, as my fellow interns would attest.

Personally though, I either want to guard the best or worst player. Best because I pride myself on defense and when my guy misses a shot I get satisfaction like I just made my own shot. Worst player...because then I cheat on him bad and double and play the passing lanes...I get a lot of steals and tipped balls that way.

Anyways, thanks for the advice. Sounds like I know basketball a bit better than him. Which I expected, just couldn't find the proof.

I like to guard the laziest player or the oldest player on the court, because I like to get out on the break and run. I run and run and run and run. By the end of the game, my guy is usually dead tired. It means a lot of easy buckets and he's usually too tired to do much on offense. Old, out of shape, or just plain lazy.... the best combination.