OT: Boozer to Bulls!

[B-Roy]

Seriously, just standing pat we're coming out of this summer well!

Cause all we have is the MLE.

 

[EGame]

Cause all we have is the MLE.

I am pretty sure he meant that we are doing well because a lot of the west teams are getting weaker, not that we don't have cap to do anything.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Jazz are hoping for sign and trade with Chicago. (Trade exemption and Taj Gipson)

I say Offer Wes Mathew the whole mid level so the Jazz match and have no other options to add players.

 

[EGame]

Why would Chicago do it when they can just sign him outright? Unless there is something in it for Chicago I am missing, no reason to lose pieces when they can just outright add Boozer.

 

[RR7]

Exactly, if it is 5 years, there's no real incentive for Chicago to give Utah a large TPE and Taj Gibson. Although, Utah's so cheap, I doubt they'd use the exception anyways.

 

[Pinwheel1]

My Jazz fan friends are pissed. Not that Boozer is gone, but because they got nothing for him. Last January they had lofty deams of trading Boozer for a big, and getting a great young PF with NY's pick. Instead they lose Boozer for nothing, lose Korver, lose Okur until about January and draft a soft SF with their lottery pick.

Ouch

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

Utah = Frontal lobotomy!!

 

[Nhawz]

Seriously, just standing pat we're coming out of this summer well!

With all the talent signing in the east, standing pat is making our regular season easier, but standing pat does not make us a title contender!

 

[maxiep]

My Jazz fan friends are pissed. Not that Boozer is gone, but because they got nothing for him. Last January they had lofty deams of trading Boozer for a big, and getting a great young PF with NY's pick. Instead they lose Boozer for nothing, lose Korver, lose Okur until about January and draft a soft SF with their lottery pick.

Ouch

I have no pity for them. They stole Boozer from a blind man trying to pay Carlos early. What goes around sometime actually comes around.

 

[BlazerBeav]

With all the talent signing in the east, standing pat is making our regular season easier, but standing pat does not make us a title contender!

True, but just being healthy would bring us much closer to that. I'm not saying we should do nothing, but the fact is that even as is our path to contention is much easier without Stoudemire and Boozer.

 

[Public Defender]

If the $80 mil for Boozer turns out to be accurate, I'd say that puts Aldridge's salary at about the right amount. $65 mil vs. $80 mil. That means Boozer is between 15 and 20% better (more valuable, literally) than LaMarcus Aldridge. I'd agree with that. Boozer's better than Aldridge. Significantly better. $15 mil better.

(But talk about overpaying - is Joe Johnson worth TWICE what the Blazers paid Aldridge? I'd say no. Hawks panicked.)

 

[Draco]

True, but just being healthy would bring us much closer to that. I'm not saying we should do nothing, but the fact is that even as is our path to contention is much easier without Stoudemire and Boozer.

I don't know if it makes much of a difference. I don't think Utah or Phoenix could have made it to the Finals next season even with their PF's.

If we would have lost to those teams there is no way the same Blazer team could win a title.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Congrats to the Bulls. They've finally got the PF they've needed for about 5 years now.

btw, Boozer>LMA, but Oden+LMA > Oden+Boozer

 

[andalusian]

Toxic offers are toxic. Good to have such a smart GM. Oh, wait...

 

[alex42083]

Utah is screwed. Let's fuel the Deron Williams rumors now, and speculate that he wants out and the Blazers want him!

 

[Sex Panther]

Boozer is a tier 2 player, I'm not even sure if LaMarcus is a tier 3 player

 

[ABM]

Boozer is better than LMA

I'm not so sure Milsap is, though. That's what really counts here.

 

[ABM]

http://www.nayabcafe.com/2010/07/fact-remains-that-bulls-still-have-room.html

...........And, from the Trail Blazers' perspective, Boozer is leaving the Jazz. In some ways, the Blazers' playoff prospects have improved without really doing anything.For Portland to get to the NBA Finals, they must get through the Western Conference, which has certainly gotten weaker. Almost all of the free agent action has been in the Eastern Conference. True, Rudy Gay agreed to a max deal with Memphis, but it was to remain with the Grizzlies. Phoenix, which made the Western Conference Finals and ousted Portland from the first round, got worse -- maybe much worse -- as Amare Stoudemire signed with the Knicks. Unless free agent signee Hakim Warrick is better than anyone thought, the Suns will drop off significantly.Same goes for Utah, which loses a player in Boozer who averaged a double-double in four of his final six seasons with the Jazz. Can the undersized Paul Millsap, who has started 49 games in his four NBA seasons, really make up the difference?Just like that, two of Portland toughest Western Conference foes are not as formidable as they were last season.

 

[THE HCP]

I don't think the ATL panicked, they didn't want to lose him and get nothing in return. Utah is screwed!

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Boozer is better than LMA

I'll take LA over Boozer. I like Boozer, but he has a few screws loose.

 

[KingSpeed]

Aldridge is longer than Boozer. Boozer can't hang with Pau. Aldridge can. That is all that matters out West. Can you beat the Lakers? The Blazers can.

By the way, whatever happened to OKC's cap space?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Looks like the Jazz did get the trade exemption for Boozer. Will they help themselves and N.O by going after Emeka Okafer?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I wonder if the Bulls are mad they dumped Hinrich and Kevin Seraphin for the shot at LBJ. They could've signed Boozer without doing that, couldn't they? And Hinrich might be overpaid (although he'd be the best PG available if he was a FA now, and we'll see what the Knicks pay Raymond Felton...) but he was also a real glue guy for them, and the reason they started playing well later in the year.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Looks like the Jazz did get the trade exemption for Boozer. Will they help themselves and N.O by going after Emeka Okafer?

Boy, this "trade exemption" thing is the new trend (Phoenix did it with Amare too). Basically, it's just like free agency, except you get round the cap! THAT'S a loophole that's going to be closed in the new CBA.

But will Utah use it? Won't they go into luxury tax territory if they do?

Good thing about it: they can't use it to sign Wes Matthews...

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I wonder if the Bulls are mad they dumped Hinrich and Kevin Seraphin for the shot at LBJ. They could've signed Boozer without doing that, couldn't they? And Hinrich might be overpaid (although he'd be the best PG available if he was a FA now, and we'll see what the Knicks pay Raymond Felton...) but he was also a real glue guy for them, and the reason they started playing well later in the year.

Just read they signed Kyle Korver. Hinrich for Kyle Korver? Bleh.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Boy, this "trade exemption" thing is the new trend (Phoenix did it with Amare too). Basically, it's just like free agency, except you get round the cap! THAT'S a loophole that's going to be closed in the new CBA.

But will Utah use it? Won't they go into luxury tax territory if they do?

Good thing about it: they can't use it to sign Wes Matthews...

Cleveland and Toronto are trying too. For the most part it seems like it is a good will gesture on the part of the team who steals the prize. Chicago could have told the Jazz to FO. I see no benefit for the Bulls to swap 2nd round picks just so Utah gets the exemption.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Just read they signed Kyle Korver. Hinrich for Kyle Korver? Bleh.

yeah, I'm not sure how much that improves the Bulls. Korver is definitely the better shooter and will provide space on the floor for Boozer and Rose, but he doesn't exactly make up for Hinrich's impact at the other end.

On the flip side I think this pretty much makes Matthews unattainable (which I'm OK with, given the track record of Utah free agents going to other systems and promptly falling on their faces).

 

[Pinwheel1]

Just read they signed Kyle Korver. Hinrich for Kyle Korver? Bleh.

Only 5 million a year. Good pick up

 

[THE HCP]

They needed somebody to stretch the D when they double Rose and Boozer!

 

[Denny Crane]

We need a boozer to go along with our stoner (Noah)