OT: Cho hired as Bobcats GM?

[PapaG]

Well, it's actually pretty easy to shoot down since it's based totally on speculation by one or two posters in this forum. I have never heard or read anywhere else that it was Larry Miller and not Rich Cho that brokered the Wallace trade. Other than posters in this forum, I haven't heard Miller's name associated with the Wallace trade in any way.

If you have a link that proves otherwise, please post it.
BNM

From Quick's article. RIF

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2011/06/charlotte_bobcats_hire_rich_ch.html

Cho never had time to make his mark in Portland, although the team executed two trades under his watch: moving Jerryd Bayless to New Orleans for a first-round pick, and acquiring Wallace for Joel Przybilla, Dante Cunningham, Sean Marks and two future first round picks.

It is believed that the relationship between Miller and Jordan, who worked together for 10 years at Nike, was instrumental in the February trade for Wallace.

Cho's biggest impact figured to be made in the draft, where he valued acquiring and stock-piling picks in order to make impact moves down the road. He spent extensive time in Portland revamping how the team scouted and compiled data on players. He never got the chance to implement those strategies, however, as he was fired one month before the draft.

Speculation is still out there about Miller's role, even by the Blazers' beat writer.

So, how does Cho being hired by Charlotte "prove" that he was solely responsible for the Wallace deal? I can't find any definitive proof for either camp, yet you somehow think that the Miller angle is nonsense.

 

[Ed O]

Why did the Blazers fire Cho before the draft?

Wouldn't the team have been better off by keeping him on the payroll until after then? Presumably he knows some of the Blazers' thinking and he offers some level of expertise that was funded by Portland.

It's good for Cho--and for the Bobcats. I just don't see how it's good for Portland.

Ed O.

 

[PapaG]

Why did the Blazers fire Cho before the draft?
Wouldn't the team have been better off by keeping him on the payroll until after then? Presumably he knows some of the Blazers' thinking and he offers some level of expertise that was funded by Portland.

It's good for Cho--and for the Bobcats. I just don't see how it's good for Portland.

Ed O.

You're asking for a logical answer for an organization that is largely illogical in its actions. Why didn't the Blazers fire Pritchard early in his last season, and why did Paul Allen allow a guy that he just fired to still be in his draft room? Also, why did Paul Allen then (allegedly) smear Pritchard to Indiana when they asked about him, and Tweet specifically about the recent KP/Vulcan rumors. I almost expect Paul Allen to take the most illogical approach to any situation regarding his GM at this point in time.

 

[jlprk]

You're asking for a logical answer for an organization that is largely illogical in its actions. Why didn't the Blazers fire Pritchard early in his last season, and why did Paul Allen allow a guy that he just fired to still be in his draft room? Also, why did Paul Allen then (allegedly) smear Pritchard to Indiana when they asked about him, and Tweet specifically about the recent KP/Vulcan rumors. I almost expect Paul Allen to take the most illogical approach to any situation regarding his GM at this point in time.

For each of those events, could you explain how each is illogical? If your (wrong word) definition of "illogical" is "whatever damages the organization," none of those events did so.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Why did the Blazers fire Cho before the draft?

Wouldn't the team have been better off by keeping him on the payroll until after then? Presumably he knows some of the Blazers' thinking and he offers some level of expertise that was funded by Portland.

It's good for Cho--and for the Bobcats. I just don't see how it's good for Portland.

Ed O.

Maybe they didn't want to make him part of the draft process. Everyone knew KP was just a matter of time. Maybe they learned their lesson and decided earlier is better for both parties.

It is interesting to wonder if Cho has anything on or about the Blazers that can be used during the draft . . . but at the #21 pick, I don't think the draft is a huge priority for the Blazers.

 

[jlprk]

Is Pritchard going to be a midlevel scout for the Knicks? He could moonlight by selling Oregonian subscriptions in New York door to door.

Somehow, he should make money from the Oregonian loving him so much. They will give him a job.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

SI has Charlotte taking Faried at #19 - is there implied Cho revenge here?

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Cho and NO 2011 first round draft pick:

In less than a year: Cho has traded for NO '11 draft pick, traded away the draft pick and now will decided who to draft with the pick.

Has that ever happened before?

 

[Minstrel]

Cho and NO 2011 first round draft pick:

In less than a year: Cho has traded for NO '11 draft pick, traded away the draft pick and now will decided who to draft with the pick.

Has that ever happened before?

That is pretty amusing, actually.

 

[Natebishop3]

From Quick's article. RIF

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2011/06/charlotte_bobcats_hire_rich_ch.html



Speculation is still out there about Miller's role, even by the Blazers' beat writer.

So, how does Cho being hired by Charlotte "prove" that he was solely responsible for the Wallace deal? I can't find any definitive proof for either camp, yet you somehow think that the Miller angle is nonsense.

I wouldn't take Jason Quick at face value.

 

[PapaG]

I wouldn't take Jason Quick at face value.

Only when he's right, like in the OP of this thread.

S2's rule of sources. If you agree with the sourced material, it's legitimate. If it goes against one's opinion, it is incorrect, and the source of the information is an idiot.

Regardless, BNM asked for a link from someone other than me (he meant me in his post). Quick's article on Cho becoming Charlotte's GM referenced Miller's supposed role in the Wallace trade. Apparently, BNM didn't even take the time to read the article before starting his passive-aggressive games. Sadly for him, it ended with him making some foolish posts, in light of the link that was provided that certainly does not prove that Cho masterminded the Charlotte trade.

 

[jlprk]

Apparently, BNM didn't even take the time to read the article before starting his passive-aggressive games. Sadly for him, it ended with him making some foolish posts, in light of the link that was provided

Yes, you were right and he was wrong, but your melodrama overstates the tragedy. Consider my post the anticlimax.

 

[Natebishop3]

Only when he's right, like in the OP of this thread.

S2's rule of sources. If you agree with the sourced material, it's legitimate. If it goes against one's opinion, it is incorrect, and the source of the information is an idiot.

Regardless, BNM asked for a link from someone other than me (he meant me in his post). Quick's article on Cho becoming Charlotte's GM referenced Miller's supposed role in the Wallace trade. Apparently, BNM didn't even take the time to read the article before starting his passive-aggressive games. Sadly for him, it ended with him making some foolish posts, in light of the link that was provided that certainly does not prove that Cho masterminded the Charlotte trade.

Except we can point to a number of times when JQ has reported something and been flat out wrong.

 

[BrianFromWA]

yeah, but who else could've reported that Blake's farts smell worse than Joel's? Huh?

 

[Ed O]

You're asking for a logical answer for an organization that is largely illogical in its actions. Why didn't the Blazers fire Pritchard early in his last season, and why did Paul Allen allow a guy that he just fired to still be in his draft room? Also, why did Paul Allen then (allegedly) smear Pritchard to Indiana when they asked about him, and Tweet specifically about the recent KP/Vulcan rumors. I almost expect Paul Allen to take the most illogical approach to any situation regarding his GM at this point in time.

Well, if the Blazers' brass think that KP is a total dirtbag, then it makes sense.

Cho, though, they seemed to give a good reference... and it seems that they could have waited a couple of weeks until after the draft to let him go. Maybe they were just trying to do him a solid. Which would seem to indicate their low opinion of KP.

Ed O.

 

[PapaG]

Well, if the Blazers' brass think that KP is a total dirtbag, then it makes sense.
Cho, though, they seemed to give a good reference... and it seems that they could have waited a couple of weeks until after the draft to let him go. Maybe they were just trying to do him a solid. Which would seem to indicate their low opinion of KP.

Ed O.

They let KP twist in the months for 6 months, with most rational posters knowing that it meant KP would be fired. Keeping a "dirtbag" around for months after shunning him seems illogical to me.

 

[Ed O]

They let KP twist in the months for 6 months, with most rational posters knowing that it meant KP would be fired. Keeping a "dirtbag" around for months after shunning him seems illogical to me.

Sometimes it's better to keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

If they really thought he was untrustworthy, it made more sense to keep him on through the draft so he couldn't help another team.

Ed O.

 

[PapaG]

Sometimes it's better to keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

If they really thought he was untrustworthy, it made more sense to keep him on through the draft so he couldn't help another team.

Ed O.

Well, that's one opinion. The other is that the Blazers got literally zero help from that draft last season, and they kept on a guy they knew they were gong to fire. Perhaps letting KP go and letting somebody else trade for Babbit would have been logical.