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Will Sterling be owner of the Clips on Nov. 1?

  • yes, he'll still be owner (Sterlng Wins, at least temporarily)

    Votes: 6 18.8%

  • no, he'll be ousted (Sterling Loses)

    Votes: 8 25.0%

  • no, but he'll make an exorbitant amount of dough in the sale (Sterling basically wins)

    Votes: 18 56.3%
  • Total voters
    32
So those who criticize Sterling are on the same side as Stormfront. His defenders, like Al Sharpton, receive NCAA awards alongside him.

Why do you terrorists confuse all that is pure and sweet?
 
I read the first 3 of 7 pages of the Stormfront thread. I expected it to be more interesting. There is no variance. They repeat and echo each other, like FBI informants conforming to a model.
 
Mr. J, the even-keeled conversation about race you're looking for does not exist on this forum. Flee while you still can.
 
jlprk said:
I read the first 3 of 7 pages of the Stormfront thread. I expected it to be more interesting. There is no variance. They repeat and echo each other, like FBI informants conforming to a model.
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Pretty much every thread I've read in there are the same.

* Jews are greedy
* minorities, especially the blacks, are inferior.
* White Genocide

Btw, that forum is also the "murder capital" of the net. Many of their members were convicted of murder.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Pretty much every thread I've read in there are the same.

* Jews are greedy
* minorities, especially the blacks, are inferior.
* White Genocide

Btw, that forum is also the "murder capital" of the net. Many of their members were convicted of murder.
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If they explained those points trying to persuade, they'd be more interesting. All they have are thunder and explosive bluster. And they keep echoing what the previous poster said. Borrring. Even military message boards full of experienced urban warfare doorkickers are more interesting. When they describe killing people, they really did it.
 
You could sell your ability to score Will Barton interviews.
 
umm, Why do so many give a shit what Sterling said?

He is not elected, nobody has to work for him but those that do probably will still cash the checks.
 
You're saying we can have it our way. But we all have to eat his Secret Sauce.

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jlprk said:
I can see it from his viewpoint. On the tape, he tells her that he loves her, but gives her permission to sleep with other men of any race. He is stretching as far as he’s able.

If I were a coherence-challenged billionaire, honoring some random whore with the title of "girlfriend," I'd expect her to obey my simple little rule that she is to seem as white as possible in public. He’s worried that she’s even dumber than he is, and will embarrass him with classless words and actions.

Sure enough, she just lost her billionaire boyfriend. Kind of proves his point. Too bad. They were IQ-compatible.
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Hahahahaha
 
Meet The Press unsurprising was all over this. In fact, they put it front and center. I guess anything to have our Lightbringer pontificate about racism again.

Jesus, how does someone's stupidity in the private sector become a political issue?
 
Discrimination is kinda a federal issue; it's certainly not like the private sector spontaneously decided not to be racis'.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Discrimination is kinda a federal issue; it's certainly not like the private sector spontaneously decided not to be racis'.
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I'm sorry, but why doesn't Donald Sterling have the right to be racist?
 
I know the NBA has told Sterling not to attend today's game, but I could think of no more fitting punishment than to have him sit front-and-center in Oakland and be personally introduced by the announcer.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
I'm sorry I think the post belongs on Stormfront. Did you get your logins mixed up?
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Why? Please explain to me why someone doesn't have the right to be racist. Furthermore, explain why you get to dictate to someone else what they think.
 
As OneLifeToLive and others pointed out, people can THINK whatever they want. Your thoughts are inside your head. But a person in a position of authority cannot ACT any way he/she chooses. And a person in a position of authority may have the legal right to SPEAK as he/she chooses, but those words will and should have consequences. No one is proposing legal prosecution of Sterling, but his words do have consequences.

While few here are defending him, Papa G, I do see a lot of opprobrium against the woman and as I said, her character or lack thereof is irrelevant. I think it's being raised to deflect attention.

El Presidente has been on my ignore list ever since he said gay people were just like barnyard animals, but judging by his citations in others' posts, he reminds me of Bill O'Reilly going into some restaurant in Harlem and expressing astonishment that the clientele were behaving just like normal human beings.
 
crandc said:
As OneLifeToLive and others pointed out, people can THINK whatever they want. Your thoughts are inside your head. But a person in a position of authority cannot ACT any way he/she chooses. And a person in a position of authority may have the legal right to SPEAK as he/she chooses, but those words will and should have consequences. No one is proposing legal prosecution of Sterling, but his words do have consequences.

While few here are defending him, Papa G, I do see a lot of opprobrium against the woman and as I said, her character or lack thereof is irrelevant. I think it's being raised to deflect attention.

El Presidente has been on my ignore list ever since he said gay people were just like barnyard animals, but judging by his citations in others' posts, he reminds me of Bill O'Reilly going into some restaurant in Harlem and expressing astonishment that the clientele were behaving just like normal human beings.
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Has Donald Sterling done anything illegal in regards to the Clippers?
 
maxiep said:
Has Donald Sterling done anything illegal in regards to the Clippers?
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The owners most certainly have a moral and ethical duty to the league to further the league's growth and appeal. And there's most certainly a fiduciary responsibility to not harm the other owners or the league.
 
Deadspin has acquired an extended, 15-minute version of the conversation between Clippers owner Donald Sterling and his then-girlfriend V. Stiviano. If the original nine-minute tape acquired by TMZ left any questions about Sterling's opinions regarding minorities, the audio here should remove all doubt that he's a doddering racist with views not too far removed from the plantation.

You can find the new audio in the above video, which contains the transcript. (This version is also a little crisper than the original and has some extra background activity around the edges, which indicates that this was recorded in a house.) As with the original, we don't know if this has been edited in some way. The NBA is investigating. Thus far, Sterling's team has offered only a tepid response, lightly suggesting the possibility that the original audio had been doctored and pointing out that V. Stiviano had recently been sued by the Sterlings.

In this audio, Sterling expresses ideas similar to the ones he did in the original: The world will think certain things if you're seen with black people, he tells his mistress, so you should not be seen with them in public, and under no circumstances should you bring them to Clippers games. How does he square his dim view of black people with the fact that he has an NBA team full of black players? Sterling responds with a breathtaking non-sequitur.
V: I don't understand, I don't see your views. I wasn't raised the way you were raised.
DS: Well then, if you don't feel—don't come to my games. Don't bring black people, and don't come.
V: Do you know that you have a whole team that's black, that plays for you?
DS: You just, do I know? I support them and give them food, and clothes, and cars, and houses. Who gives it to them? Does someone else give it to them? Do I know that I have—Who makes the game? Do I make the game, or do they make the game? Is there 30 owners, that created the league?
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Poor Los Angeles Dodgers outfielder Matt Kemp is also dragged into the conversation, having appeared in an Instagram photo with V. Stiviano. It was her photo with Magic Johnson that had apparently started the fight.
V: Honey, if it makes you happy, I will remove all of the black people from my Instagram.
DS: You said that before, you said, "I understand."
V: I DID remove the people that were independently on my Instagram that are black.
DS: Then why did you start saying that you didn't? You just said that you didn't remove them. You didn't remove every—
V: I didn't remove Matt Kemp and Magic Johnson, but I thought—
DS: Why?
V: I thought Matt Kemp is mixed, and he was OK, just like me.
DS: OK.
V: He's lighter and whiter than me.
DS: OK.
V: I met his mother.
DS: You think I'm a racist, and wouldn't—
V: I don't think you're a racist.
DS: Yes you do. Yes you do.
V: I think you, you—
DS: Evil heart.
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And there is also this baffling exchange about black Jews in Israel:
DS: It's the world! You go to Israel, the blacks are just treated like dogs.
V: So do you have to treat them like that too?
DS: The white Jews, there's white Jews and black Jews, do you understand?
V: And are the black Jews less than the white Jews?
DS: A hundred percent, fifty, a hundred percent.
V: And is that right?
DS: It isn't a question—we don't evaluate what's right and wrong, we live in a society. We live in a culture. We have to live within that culture.
V: But shouldn't we take a stand for what's wrong? And be the change and the difference?
DS: I don't want to change the culture, because I can't. It's too big and too [unknown].
V: But you can change yourself.
DS: I don't want to change. If my girl can't do what I want, I don't want the girl. I'll find a girl that will do what I want! Believe me. I thought you were that girl—because I tried to do what you want. But you're not that girl.
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They close by essentially invoking Hitler and closing down the thread, comparing Sterling's viewpoints to the Holocaust:
V: It's like saying, "Let's just persecute and kill all of the Jews."
DS: Oh, it's the same thing, right?
V: Isn't it wrong? Wasn't it wrong then? With the Holocaust? And you're Jewish, you understand discrimination.
DS: You're a mental case, you're really a mental case. The Holocaust, we're comparing with—
V: Racism! Discrimination.
DS: There's no racism here. If you don't want to be... walking... into a basketball game with a certain... person, is that racism?
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Remember that these aren't the unfortunate offhand comments of an old man. These are expressions of a worldview that Sterling has acted upon time and time again, with real effects on real people, with little to no response from the NBA or its players. The difference in this case is the visceral effect of actually hearing him say these things out loud and oh so matter-of-factly. It's enough for even an actor as careful as LeBron James to feel empowered to take a flamethrower to Sterling, saying, "There is no room for Donald Sterling in our league."

http://deadspin.com/exclusive-the-e...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
 
Kinda curious to hear what Olshey has to say considering he worked for Sterling.
 
If they NBA wants Sterling out of the NBA I think they will have to set him up or find something else on him. I don't think you can just throw him out of the NBA because of what he said. There is no rule that it goes against sports. This isn't like when Pete Rose bet on baseball or Tanya Harding was involved in taking Nancy Kerrigan out.
 
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BigGameDamian said:
If they NBA wants Sterling out of the NBA I think they will have to set him up or find something else on him. I don't think you can just throw him out of the NBA because of what he said. There is no rule that it goes against sports. This isn't like when Pete Rose bet on baseball or Tanya Harding was involved in taking Nancy Kerrigan out.
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What about what her name the old lady who owned an MLB team was was totally racist? Schott? Didn't they buy her out?
 
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