OT - Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My Games (3 Viewers)

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Will Sterling be owner of the Clips on Nov. 1?

  • yes, he'll still be owner (Sterlng Wins, at least temporarily)

    Votes: 6 18.8%

  • no, he'll be ousted (Sterling Loses)

    Votes: 8 25.0%

  • no, but he'll make an exorbitant amount of dough in the sale (Sterling basically wins)

    Votes: 18 56.3%
  • Total voters
    32
Any basketball franchise that comes for sale in LA magic is going to be one of the main people involved in getting it.
 
I wonder when their lease is up at Staples? It seems strange that Seattle or San Diego don't have a team and LA has two.
 
maxiep said:
I wonder when their lease is up at Staples? It seems strange that Seattle or San Diego don't have a team and LA has two.
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they recently re-upped for 10 years.
 
Hahahahaha! And some of you thought it was a dumb idea.


Houston Rockets owner Leslie Alexander told the Houston Chronicle that the NBA should allow the Los Angeles Clippers players to become free agents so that they don't have to play for Donald Sterling.

He made this suggestion to NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, who said that he would consider it.

“I thought that there’s got to be a way to disrupt him from owning the team,” Alexander said. “I gave [Silver] the sword to deal with this. I said, ‘Let the players become free agents.’ I mentioned that to Adam. I told Adam I don’t think he can be removed because the constitution (of the NBA) only allows him to be removed except for gambling. I’m not sure that legally can be done. But if he loses his players, nobody is going to want to go there. He’ll only be able to get a player that is worth $2 million and will play for $12 (million.) And who is going to want to coach there? If you’re a player in the NBA you don’t want to play for somebody like that. If you worked for a company, you would walk away and say, ‘I’m gone.' I think the players should have that right.”

“He listened to it,” Alexander added. “He said he hadn’t heard that before. He said to me, ‘You always give me a novel idea that I haven’t heard before.’ He told me he would look at it and see what the professionals around him think.”

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterocke...leslie-alexander-seeks-to-drive-him-from-nba/
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Hahahahaha! And some of you thought it was a dumb idea.


Houston Rockets owner Leslie Alexander told the Houston Chronicle that the NBA should allow the Los Angeles Clippers players to become free agents so that they don't have to play for Donald Sterling.

He made this suggestion to NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, who said that he would consider it.

“I thought that there’s got to be a way to disrupt him from owning the team,” Alexander said. “I gave [Silver] the sword to deal with this. I said, ‘Let the players become free agents.’ I mentioned that to Adam. I told Adam I don’t think he can be removed because the constitution (of the NBA) only allows him to be removed except for gambling. I’m not sure that legally can be done. But if he loses his players, nobody is going to want to go there. He’ll only be able to get a player that is worth $2 million and will play for $12 (million.) And who is going to want to coach there? If you’re a player in the NBA you don’t want to play for somebody like that. If you worked for a company, you would walk away and say, ‘I’m gone.' I think the players should have that right.”

“He listened to it,” Alexander added. “He said he hadn’t heard that before. He said to me, ‘You always give me a novel idea that I haven’t heard before.’ He told me he would look at it and see what the professionals around him think.”

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterocke...leslie-alexander-seeks-to-drive-him-from-nba/
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Aaaand, Paul and Blake join the Lakers...
 
Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

Wow ... didn't see that coming. :crazy:
 
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

Share what he said? (paraphrase)
 
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

I disagree with him. It was clear how he views his players, and how he views black people. This isn't just some offhanded remark either. The dude has a history of this kind of thing. He needs to go. I would really hate to see the government get involved in this.
 
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Cuban is making a less articulate argument than the one I made about rushing to judgment in terms of legal options, before actually making sure your bylaws protect against specific, or nonspecific, grievances.
 
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Thought crimes! Cuban is right on this. You can't just kick him out because of his thoughts and seize his business due to his ideology. Let the market decide his fate.

Alexander's idea is fucking stupid as well.
 
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EL PRESIDENTE said:
Thought crimes! Cuban is right on this. You can't just kick him out because of his thoughts and seize his business due to his ideology. Let the market decide his fate.

Alexander's idea is fucking stupid as well.
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I think Cuban was thinking more legally than in terms of emotion. He owns a $1b asset, and I imagine he'd like to know legally what else can allow the league to take drastic measures against other owners. I've posted it before, but very often in big decisions, the emotional response conflicts with the business response.
 
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Well, if you seize a team due to an emotional reaction then it becomes a legal issue. They can probably ban him/fine him, that's about it. Its in his best interest to sell the team over the summer however.
 
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This could very well end up like the McCourt/Dodgers fiasco, what with the possible and likely divorce and all. I actually don't think they could probably legally get away with banning him from what appears to be an illegally obtained private conversation. If he was dickish enough about it, he could sue the league for any "unjust" punishments.
 
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EL PRESIDENTE said:
This could very well end up like the McCourt/Dodgers fiasco, what with the possible and likely divorce and all. I actually don't think they could probably legally get away with banning him from what appears to be an illegally obtained private conversation. If he was dickish enough about it, he could sue the league for any "unjust" punishments.
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As an armchair lawyer, as they say, it's all in the details of the contract.
 
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EL PRESIDENTE said:
Thought crimes! Cuban is right on this. You can't just kick him out because of his thoughts and seize his business due to his ideology. Let the market decide his fate.

Alexander's idea is fucking stupid as well.
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What happens if the players union gets the feds involved? I don't think the NBA wants this to become more than it is.
 
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Natebishop3 said:
What happens if the players union gets the feds involved? I don't think the NBA wants this to become more than it is.
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For what, Violation of unnamed person's civil rights? Hostile work environment? None of these are provable. Hell, why don't we just get Obama to issue an executive order to kick Sterling out of the country while we're at it.

Emotionally, there's a right thing to do and its to kick him out of the league. Legally, the league doesn't have much they can do other than to denounce and maybe suspend him from attending NBA sanctioned events.

Its going to be a Witch Hunt. League should buy the franchise from Sterling and spend the summer looking for new owners. However, they really shouldn't do this during the playoffs because it looks improper if they Clippers CONTINUE getting calls like they usually do because it just increases the franchise value if they were to win it all. The flip side is that what if Sterling wins the championship. He's entitled to his championship rings, etc. That's going to be a huge blackeye on the league.

Best case scenario is that the Clippers get knocked out by Golden State, then the league buys the team from Sterling and sells it quickly via bidding process.
 
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PapaG said:
As an armchair lawyer, as they say, it's all in the details of the contract.
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A contract isn't needed to show that this was:

1. A private conversation
2. Recorded illegally
3. Not a directive to anyone associated with the team in any capacity whatsoever

Unless there are corroborating examples or similar directives showing a pattern of this train of though as a Policy of Sterling's, I really don't see what can just punishment can be leveled. Not saying that something won't happen, but in all likelihood it would probably be legally unjustified.
 
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

I'm pretty sure Sterling will do whatever the hell he wants. If he wants to be the owner, then he'll continue to be the owner. If the league screws with him and they're not careful, he'll sue them making him a lot of money.

It'd be interesting to hear what Ed O. has to say about this.
 
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

The ironic thing is that if Sterling continued his usual philosophy of the Clippers as a business, right now would be the optimal time to sell the franchise. He has all the leverage in the world to extract maximum value.
 
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Just out of curiosity, I thought it was illegal to record someone without their knowledge. Shouldn't this chick be facing charges?
 
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EL PRESIDENTE said:
Thought crimes! Cuban is right on this. You can't just kick him out because of his thoughts and seize his business due to his ideology. Let the market decide his fate.
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It is the market deciding this. Or rather business owners acting in the interest of maximizing profits in a market. It wasn't the US federal or a state government that decided to come together to form the NBA. It was a collection of businesses and individuals. That collection put together their own constitution with the end goal of securing and maximizing profitability.

The basic question is, "Does keeping Sterling around help the NBA (and thereby the owners) maximize profitability?" This isn't about Big Brother. It's all about the market.

Cuban is asking, "Does getting rid of Sterling create a 'slippery slope' where any owner could lose his ownership if he behaves like a jackass?" You can see why Cuban especially would be worried about this. I don't think this is a slippery slope at all. If I were an owner, I'd keep that in mind and put some limitations in there, but at the end of the day Sterling is damaging the NBA product. His dickishness is sidetracking the playoffs and tarnishing the brand of the entire league. He's an idiot and a dinosaur, and he's done enough damage.
 
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The logical slope here after this if the league forces him out:

1. What if an owner does not support same sex marriage. That is equal to bigotry and hatred and therefore he should lose his franchise.

2. What if an owner does not recognize that gender is a social construct. That is equal to bigotry and hatred and therefore he should lose his franchise.

and so forth and so on.
 
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