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yuyuza1 said:
Like I said, 8 and 6 with good D off the bench isn't bad. Only thing to be concerned about would be his attitude.

You guys are free to disagree.
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Allow me to exercise that freedom.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Am I the only one who thinks that contract isn't that bad at all?
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No, you're not the only one. I don't think it's a tremendous contract for Minnesota, but I also don't think it's batshit crazy.

As a starter, Darko averaged about 10 points, 6 rebounds and a block per game. Is he great? No. Should he have been the #2 pick in the draft ahead of Carmello, Wade, Bosh, etc? No.

But 5 million for an average backup center isn't the world's worst contract. Example: Joel Przybilla last season - 4 points, 8 rebounds, $7 million.
 
5 milion a year is a pretty fair deal for Darko. If you watched him play the last two years he has improved quite a bit.
 
What a joke! Only Yi is deserved of that kind money!
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
Lol At darko defenders
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Can't wait to see what you say about Harris and Brook Lopez based on your well thought out formula. Nobody is raving about him, just that a serviceable center in the NBA gets 5 million a year for the last several years now.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Can't wait to see what you say about Harris and Brook Lopez based on your well thought out formula. Nobody is raving about him, just that a serviceable center in the NBA gets 5 million a year for the last several years now.
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Servicable center with 1-17 record as starter last year
 
yuyuza1 said:
In a league where Anderson Varejao gets a $48mil deal and Drew Gooden can get a $32 mil deal, $20 for a guy who can D up and score points from the center position is very reasonable.

I bet he will put up double double numbers this year. Keep an eye on him for fantasy.
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Except that Varejao can play. He is an excellent defender. Most teams need a guy like that. Short of having a dream two-way like Duncan, the next best thing is to have a big like Varejao that can defend the paint, set screens, rebound, anchor the team defense. Dude has a big impact and is worth the money.
 
The thing I think is funny is there was a report on NBATV a few weeks back that the Timberwolves Brass met and after their meeting, their conclusion was that Darko was the only player on the team who was actual starter quality. I don't know if that was just a crazy rumor, but the more I see of their moves, the more I think it was a legit report.
 
K-Love is not starter material? if a 20.7 PER PF with over 20% TRB% and over 12% AST% for a PF is not starter material, even if he is not the world greatest defender - they have some real issues with the BBIQ of the front office...
 
andalusian said:
K-Love is not starter material? if a 20.7 PER PF with over 20% TRB% and over 12% AST% for a PF is not starter material, even if he is not the world greatest defender - they have some real issues with the BBIQ of the front office...
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Yea I know. Bewildering aye?
 
Kahn is almost making Kevin McHale look like a genius.
 
You know, I am not 100% sure that the Darko signing is completely nuts, but the idea that he is the only starter material on that team, is...
 
andalusian said:
You know, I am not 100% sure that the Darko signing is completely nuts, but the idea that he is the only starter material on that team, is...
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It's true.

I am not 100% sure either.

I am 99.999999999999999% sure though.

I think there is a difference between T'Wolves starter material and actual starter material.

Much like the difference between David Kahn GM and Actual NBA Quality GM.
 
This would make more sense if they did not owe the Clippers an unprotected 1st in 2012 if they do not give up their 2011 pick. Unless they get a star somehow next year, they would have been better off using their capspace overpaying for a star instead of a bunch of mid-level talent.
 
He's a 25 year-old seven footer. The contract he received is a lot of money to you and me, but not a ton of money for the NBA.

I don't think that it's a ridiculous contract.

Ed O.
 
At the 2003-2004 season, a 24 years old center with a PER of 6.7 and a winscore/48 minutes of 0.007 got $5m from Portland. He became a pretty decent player here - that's Joel Pryzbilla, btw.

Last year, Darko, a 24 years old center had a PER of 12.9 and a winscore/48 of 0.048.

The Darko contract is not crazy, given the NBA. It's really not.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Am I the only one who thinks that contract isn't that bad at all?
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No. I think that you can do a lot worse than paying two young 7-footers with mediocre skills a combined 6M a year. Like, say, paying more to Drew Gooden. Or paying Joe Johnson 121M.

EDIT: Probably should've finished reading the thread first.
 
BrianFromWA said:
No. I think that you can do a lot worse than paying two young 7-footers with mediocre skills a combined 6M a year. Like, say, paying more to Drew Gooden. Or paying Joe Johnson 121M.

EDIT: Probably should've finished reading the thread first.
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It's ten million a year between Pekovic and Darko ... Which might be OK, but this has huge Dan Gadzuric-like potential.
 
I read that wrong, then... I thought it said on here that Khan paid a combined 33M for both.

EDIT: I went to check ESPN, and the site's shut down. Anyone else getting through?
 
From ESPN:
The deal is the second for the Wolves in the first 24 hours of free agency. Earlier this morning, the team agreed to a four-year, $13 million deal with their 2008 second-round pick, Nikola Pekovic.
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It is 33M total for Pekovic AND Darko. Not horrible, IMO.
 
It's not horrible for a contender or a team that has their main guys in place, and wants a good, serviceable backup center with a pulse.

For Minnesota? They clear cap space and this is what they do with it? I know no one wants to go to Minnesota but why not do what OKC did? They took on small contracts (D. Cook is a small forward btw) and get a guy like Aldrich and future picks. Or audition Beasley for a couple of years. Instead they do the opposite, get rid of lottery picks (Babbitt) just to take on money (Martell Webster) and then resign a mediocre center who is still young but hasn't improved in his career (Martell also falls into that category).

This is why it's such a head scratcher.
 
axs88 said:
It's not horrible for a contender or a team that has their main guys in place, and wants a good, serviceable backup center with a pulse.

For Minnesota? They clear cap space and this is what they do with it? I know no one wants to go to Minnesota but why not do what OKC did? They took on small contracts (D. Cook is a small forward btw) and get a guy like Aldrich and future picks. Or audition Beasley for a couple of years. Instead they do the opposite, get rid of lottery picks (Babbitt) just to take on money (Martell Webster) and then resign a mediocre center who is still young but hasn't improved in his career (Martell also falls into that category).

This is why it's such a head scratcher.
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Well said. Repped.
 
maxiep said:
John Hammond has just been saved from winning the "worst deal awarded during free agency" medal.
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The Rudy Gay deal is much worse than both of these deals put together. It will be hard for anyone to top that deal for "worst of the year," but I'm sure there will be some solid attempts.
 
I think this deal is a tad silly, but not horrific. I'm a little amused how every deal announced becomes "omg that's the worst deal ever, that just single-handedly destroyed the players in the next CBA negotiation."

Only the Rudy Gay deal did that. ;)
 
Minstrel said:
The Rudy Gay deal is much worse than both of these deals put together. It will be hard for anyone to top that deal for "worst of the year," but I'm sure there will be some solid attempts.
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Agree with this 20 mill for Darko seems insane until you compare it with Gay getting the Max. WTF Memphis? Oh and fuck you very much for the Miles screwing enjoy your personal hell!!!
 
Minstrel said:
The Rudy Gay deal is much worse than both of these deals put together. It will be hard for anyone to top that deal for "worst of the year," but I'm sure there will be some solid attempts.
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To defend myself, I posted that before Chris Wallace leaped over everyone else to grab the lead.
 
BUMP.

Darko is beastin up Duncan tonight. He's been their go-to guy down the stretch AGAIN. He's extremely skilled on offense, can shoot, and play D.

Going forward, I'd take him over any center currently on our roster.
 
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