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I want to draft Sabonis but not because i'm enamored with his talent and think he will be a surefire star, i'm not sure where he fits in todays NBA, but because I want the Blazers to hire his father to be Portlands big man coach for a few years.
 
I don't think Sabonis is going to be a superstar or anything. He's a 19 year old with immense talent, is adding little things to his game each day. Great post moves, a good passer, but most of all he's HUNGRY! The guy just fucking wants it more than the next guy. That's something lost in today's NBA. Watch the guy next game, he's one of the biggest competitors I've ever seen.
 
riverman said:
I watched a lot of his games because like many, I wanted him to be an impact player like his dad...now, I think he'll be Chase Budinger..just a realistic take from watching him. I saw him dominate some college level post players and saw some dominate him. The media loves him. I also watched Ben Simmons play several games to see what the big deal was and also felt he's over hyped. Nothing against all his fans, I'm just not seeing him the way a lot of you guys do.
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Chase Budinger? lol wtf.

That just solidifies to me that you have no clue what you're talking about. Outside of being pale white guys they have virtually nothing in common. Coming out of college Budinger was hyped because of his extreme athleticism.
 
MickZagger said:
Chase Budinger? lol wtf.

That just solidifies to me that you have no clue what you're talking about. Outside of being pale white guys they have virtually nothing in common. Coming out of college Budinger was hyped because of his extreme athleticism.
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It's ok MZ....you don't need to believe my opinions and I don't have to buy into your Sabonis hype. He has skills...at the college level. That's the point and the Budinger comparison was that he's got a good jump shot and will need to get out of the paint to have an NBA role..if you actually paid attention to my posts, you'd see that I've pointed this out and complimented the kid's skillset as well as expressed my reservations about how he'll do in the NBA..lot's of guys are hyped in college..so what. Someone is clueless to the bigger picture but don't let that stop you...it's good to cheer for your favorite player.
 
MickZagger said:
I don't think Sabonis is going to be a superstar or anything. He's a 19 year old with immense talent, is adding little things to his game each day. Great post moves, a good passer, but most of all he's HUNGRY! The guy just fucking wants it more than the next guy. That's something lost in today's NBA. Watch the guy next game, he's one of the biggest competitors I've ever seen.
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I will give you that. I have liked many things about him and think he will be a rotation player in the nba. I think he is just lacking the athleticism and length to be a super star. I see his career as a McRoberts typebut probably a little better.
 
The difference is you could tell Batum wasn't right, and that he could use the rest.

I don't care if someone plays international ball, but if it starts to affect their duties to the blazers, that's when it bothers me.

If sabonis played on Lithuania, I'd love it and root for him. Might even buy a jersey of him.
 
riverman said:
It's ok MZ....you don't need to believe my opinions and I don't have to buy into your Sabonis hype. He has skills...at the college level. That's the point and the Budinger comparison was that he's got a good jump shot and will need to get out of the paint to have an NBA role..if you actually paid attention to my posts, you'd see that I've pointed this out and complimented the kid's skillset as well as expressed my reservations about how he'll do in the NBA..lot's of guys are hyped in college..so what. Someone is clueless to the bigger picture but don't let that stop you...it's good to cheer for your favorite player.
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So your basis for comparison was that they both had good jump shots

So anyone who plays in college and has a good jumpshot is like Chase Budinger...:ghoti:
 
BonesJones said:
So your basis for comparison was that they both had good jump shots

So anyone who plays in college and has a good jumpshot is like Chase Budinger...:ghoti:
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no Bones, not at all...I don't pay attention to most players in college but I did with Sabonis and formed an opinion. I'm not looking for agreement.
 
riverman said:
I watched a lot of his games because like many, I wanted him to be an impact player like his dad...now, I think he'll be Chase Budinger..just a realistic take from watching him. I saw him dominate some college level post players and saw some dominate him. The media loves him. I also watched Ben Simmons play several games to see what the big deal was and also felt he's over hyped. Nothing against all his fans, I'm just not seeing him the way a lot of you guys do.
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I've watched just about every Zags game and that comp doesn't fit Sabas.

He's a more polished Steven Adams, just not as big.
 
riverman said:
no Bones, not at all...I don't pay attention to most players in college but I did with Sabonis and formed an opinion. I'm not looking for agreement.
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Of course you aren't looking for agreement, because there's absolutely nothing to agree with. You picked two polar opposite style of players who happened to both be pale white guys and said they are similar.
 
Now I not saying he is going to be even close as good but he compares to Paul Gasol imo.

I think he caps out as first big off the bench for a contending team. He could start on some crappy teams but he actually played really well off the bench last year for Gonzaga and I think he would eat up 2nd units in the NBA and struggle starting.
 
Whatever he compares to, I think he's almost the highlight of the tournament at this point. It's a real treat to watch him this far into the tournament. And this is coming from a Ducks fan. If I had to make a comparison I'd say Zach Randolph.
 
MickZagger said:
Of course you aren't looking for agreement, because there's absolutely nothing to agree with. You picked two polar opposite style of players who happened to both be pale white guys and said they are similar.
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Race has nothing to do with my opinions but you keep bringing it up...I explained my view. Another thing....stop exaggerating. I like the kid and think he has potential but I'm not gushing over him or even really interested in bringing him to Portland. I didn't see the Utah game and I understand he really had a good one. Balance is what discussions are all about ..you disagree...great, glad to hear it. Most people agree with you about him, I don't. Deal with it.
 
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Fez Hammersticks said:
I've watched just about every Zags game and that comp doesn't fit Sabas.

He's a more polished Steven Adams, just not as big.
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Interesting but I think that Adams is way different than Sabonis in his style of game. Sabonis shoots with range, Adams is a dunker. Sabonis more of a finess big and Adams more of a banger
 
Love everything about Sabonis on the college level, except for one thing. And that one thing is the only reason I want nothing to do with him for the Blazers.

He has one of the shortest wingspans for a guy his size, and his skillset at his position will not compensate for those dinosaur arms. He might be able to score a bit, but he will be a massive negative on defense.
 
Some folks think Mason Plumlee is just an ok center. Some think Donatas Sabonis is a valuable NBA draft prospect. Here's an eye test for you

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Domantas Sabonis will be successful in the NBA because he's relentless. People get hung up on physical stats, reach, etc. and forget the most important factors in rebounding: position, reading the carom, timing of the bump, and desire. He always wants to dominate the boards in a game, and is doing so against bigger players now. No reason to think that won't continue in the NBA as he grows and gets stronger. If you've watched many Zags games you know is is a tough SOB, literally a bulldog. But, the biggest upside for me is that Domantas, at age 10, likely knew things about rebounding and screen-setting that some NBA players haven't learned after 5 years in the league.

Learn the scouting, then post. (hahahaha)
 
HomerLovesKoolAid said:
Domantas Sabonis will be successful in the NBA because he's relentless. People get hung up on physical stats, reach, etc. and forget the most important factors in rebounding: position, reading the carom, timing of the bump, and desire. He always wants to dominate the boards in a game, and is doing so against bigger players now. No reason to think that won't continue in the NBA as he grows and gets stronger. If you've watched many Zags games you know is is a tough SOB, literally a bulldog. But, the biggest upside for me is that Domantas, at age 10, likely knew things about rebounding and screen-setting that some NBA players haven't learned after 5 years in the league.

Learn the scouting, then post. (hahahaha)
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I agree that people get hung up on size too often. Will is very important too. Faried was a little undersized and has done well. Dennis Rodman is likely the best rebounder of all time and was short for his position, but he wanted that damn ball more than anyone on the court. Zach Randolph can't jump over a piece of paper.

Sabonis will be fine.

BTW it's annoying AF when people only find white players comparisons for white players

Hearing a guy is the next Adam morrison, jj Redick or dirk nowitski and just so happens to be white is lame.
 
Watching him bend utah over now. I still want him in a blazer uni. I hole we acquire him in a well played trade.
 
rasheedfan2005 said:
Watching him bend utah over now. I still want him in a blazer uni. I hole we acquire him in a well played trade.
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Poeltl looked like a joke, and he's supposed to be a top 5 pick. I bet he still goes before Sabonis, which is a mistake.
 
rasheedfan2005 said:
Watching him bend utah over now. I still want him in a blazer uni. I hole we acquire him in a well played trade.
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He could have been a target but we decided to be sacrificial lambs in the 1st round
 
Tunchi said:
He could have been a target but we decided to be sacrificial lambs in the 1st round
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We all know we sacrificed our 1st this year... You dont have to continuously point out all the obvious narratives just as a way to be negative..
 
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