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Ariza being allowed to basically hump Hedo and phantom calls when it mattered was the difference in the game tonight...how can you not hate the Lakers, they can't get much luckier that's for sure...It makes me sick to my stomach!
 
Lakers sure are a good basketball squadron.
 
LJ Ginger said:
Ariza being allowed to basically hump Hedo and phantom calls when it mattered was the difference in the game tonight...how can you not hate the Lakers, they can't get much luckier that's for sure...It makes me sick to my stomach!
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Too bad you coulden't luck out past the rockets to knock us off, huh?:sigh:
 
Natebishop3 said:
you mean like you? How about Yao's injury?
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We were 2-1 against the rockets with Yao. Small ball gave us problems.

Luckily, we are a team of champions, not chumps, like the blazers. We found a way to win:ghoti:
 
Trench said:
Lots of anger for a fan who's team is out of the playoffs. I feel for you bro.... :cheers:
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I'm always like this about the L*kers and their fans. Not just because the Blazers are out of the playoffs. I've lived in LA for a long time and its just shit having to deal with these L*ker fan fuckwad cholos running around town.
 
3 atraight calls late n the 4th was the difference. orlando got screwed on all of them. Then they let a non starter try to win the game. (jj) very stupid.

That was the series.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
3 atraight calls late n the 4th was the difference. orlando got screwed on all of them. Then they let a non starter try to win the game. (jj) very stupid.

That was the series.
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Nanana na na, hey hey heeeeeey,

bye byeeeeeeee
 
If a team (or fan) has to rely on or blame the refs for a win/loss, then they shouldn't have put themselves in a position where a call or two dictated the game. Refs make mistakes both ways, ignoring whether or not you think the NBA is corrupt, you can't control the refs. Play your game and get it done.
 
PapaG said:
The entire backboard was moving. The NBA refs blew yet another easy call.
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You don't seriously think he missed the layup because the backboard was *maybe* moving slightly, do you? :rolleyes:

I give Van Gundy a lot of credit though for that play. He spent a second timeout to see what LAs defense was going to do (Hedo wasn't even trying to inbound the ball), then made a great read. Lee was the LAST person that anyone would have predicted to get the ball, hence why he had such a great opportunity. The kid just couldn't put it down. I feel bad for him; it literally made the difference between this being a series vs. LA being in firm control.
 
Miksaid said:
You guys, relax.

Don't be like this:

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1. That music made me want to fight someone just listening to it here in my apartment.

2. I thought there were never any fights at sporting events?

3. His gf wasn't hot enough to get that worked up over.

:)

Ed O.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The NBA is still playing?!?!?! I thought the season ended when the Blazers stopped playing :(
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I've been trying to figure out why I don't have my normal Laker hate this year.

One reason, I think, is because the Lakers are the best team. They're not going to LUCK into a title... they're well built and they have either the best or the second-best player in the NBA on their team. I don't mind the best team winning most of the time.

A second reason? If it's not the Blazers winning it all, I really don't give a shit. My parents live in Orlando and there are a lot of reasons to root for them, but... meh. I just don't care. The Blazers are, in my opinion, maybe a half-step behind both of these teams now but for the first time since the 4th quarter meltdown againt the Lakers way back when, I feel we actually deserve to be in big games and that we will have chances--soon--to win them.

Ed O.
 
TehChad said:
You don't seriously think he missed the layup because the backboard was *maybe* moving slightly, do you? :rolleyes:

I give Van Gundy a lot of credit though for that play. He spent a second timeout to see what LAs defense was going to do (Hedo wasn't even trying to inbound the ball), then made a great read. Lee was the LAST person that anyone would have predicted to get the ball, hence why he had such a great opportunity. The kid just couldn't put it down. I feel bad for him; it literally made the difference between this being a series vs. LA being in firm control.
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Yeah it was a great play by SVG running mis-direction and leaving Lee open for a game winner. Lee had two opportunities to put this game away, but rushed on both. SVG is showing the world he's a damn good coach.

The play was from Dr. Ramsey's playbook according to Henry Abbott at TrueHoop

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Gasol said his hand hit the rim going for the shot block in the post-game interview. I'd have to see exactly when he got it out and if the ball was in the cylinder at the time. If it was then goaltending should be the call.
 
Shapecity said:
Yeah it was a great play by SVG running mis-direction and leaving Lee open for a game winner. Lee had two opportunities to put this game away, but rushed on both. SVG is showing the world he's a damn good coach.

The play was from Dr. Ramsey's playbook according to Henry Abbott at TrueHoop



Gasol said his hand hit the rim going for the shot block in the post-game interview. I'd have to see exactly when he got it out and if the ball was in the cylinder at the time. If it was then goaltending should be the call.
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Don't stress Shape, Howard's entire arm went through the basket on one play, it was a mega-goaltend so to speak. ;)
 
Ariza fouled Turkoglu basically the whole fourth quarter IMO. Other than that the officiating was fine, just normal mistakes on both sides.
 
TehChad said:
You don't seriously think he missed the layup because the backboard was *maybe* moving slightly, do you? :rolleyes:.
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The backboard is moving, and Gasol's hand is through the basket, on the net, and hitting the rim as the ball has been released. Whether I "think" he missed the layup because of this is irrelevant. What is relevant is that, by rule, Gasol goaltended on the final play.
 
PapaG said:
The backboard is moving, and Gasol's hand is through the basket, on the net, and hitting the rim as the ball has been released. Whether I "think" he missed the layup because of this is irrelevant. What is relevant is that, by rule, Gasol goaltended on the final play.
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NBA supervisor of officials Bernie Fryer told ESPN.com that if Gasol's hand had shaken the basket, caused the stanchion to move or touched the rim while the ball was on the rim, the correct call would have been goaltending.

But since none of those things happened, according to Fryer, "It was a cut-and-dried no-call."
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime
 
NBA supervisor of officials Bernie Fryer told ESPN.com that if Gasol's hand had shaken the basket, caused the stanchion to move or touched the rim while the ball was on the rim, the correct call would have been goaltending.

But since none of those things happened, according to Fryer, "It was a cut-and-dried no-call."
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That's some pretty nice spin. The rim and backboard were shaken by Gasol grabbing the rim. Is the NBA saying that it is now legal to grab the rim and move the backboard/rim while a shot is in the air? If so, every team should have a guy grabbing the rim on every jump shot.
 
NBA supervisor of officials Bernie Fryer told ESPN.com that if Gasol's hand had shaken the basket, caused the stanchion to move or touched the rim while the ball was on the rim, the correct call would have been goaltending.

But since none of those things happened, according to Fryer, "It was a cut-and-dried no-call."
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That's some pretty nice spin. The rim and backboard were shaken by Gasol grabbing the rim. Is the NBA saying that it is now legal to grab the rim and move the backboard/rim while a shot is in the air? If so, every team should have a guy grabbing the rim on every jump shot. I contend that the rim/backboard were vibrating, causing the ball to "unnaturally" bounce hard off of the backboard.

http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_11.html

RULE NO. 11-BASKETBALL INTERFERENCE-GOALTENDING

i. Vibrate the rim or backboard so as to cause the ball to make an unnatural bounce.
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^ The rim nor backboard was vibrating as the ball made contact therefore it's not a goaltend. Sorry kiddo, you lose.
 
EHL said:
^ The rim nor backboard was vibrating as the ball made contact therefore it's not a goaltend. Sorry kiddo, you lose.
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Sorry, wish I could agree but I dont. It was shaking without a doubt. That said, it made no difference. It wasnt shaking violently at all. I saw the up close video and when the ball hit the rim it bounced on the far outside of the rim. There was no chance that ball was going in, shaking or not.
 
PapaG said:
That's some pretty nice spin. The rim and backboard were shaken by Gasol grabbing the rim. Is the NBA saying that it is now legal to grab the rim and move the backboard/rim while a shot is in the air? If so, every team should have a guy grabbing the rim on every jump shot. I contend that the rim/backboard were vibrating, causing the ball to "unnaturally" bounce hard off of the backboard.

http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_11.html
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c. For goaltending to occur, the ball, in the judgment of the official, must have a chance to score.
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Yes it was a layup...but it had no chance, he banked it way too hard
 
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