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An hour before tip-off of Game 3 of the NBA Finals, Jackson said Los Angeles center Pau Gasol should have been whistled for goaltending on Orlando rookie guard Courtney Lee's missed layup in the final second of regulation in Game 2 on Sunday night.
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First time I've ever agreed with Phillip.
 
Can anyone tell me how the third game could have been so close, scorewise? Orlando shoots 10 points higher percentage, takes more free throws and makes a higher percentage, shoots a higher 3pt % , out rebounds by two and has the same number of turnovers. I guess LA makes three more 3 pointers on approximately the same percentage, but still, it seems like I am missing something....
 
huevonkiller said:
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Pretty even game I thought. :)
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Anybody find it funny that the Laker fan with the ref jersey in the background is busy on his cellphone, looking the wrong way, with the ball on his end of the court?
 
NBA supervisor of officials Bernie Fryer told ESPN.com that if Gasol's hand had shaken the basket, caused the stanchion to move or touched the rim while the ball was on the rim, the correct call would have been goaltending. But since none of those things happened, according to Fryer, "It was a cut-and-dried no-call."
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Taken from ESPN.
 
Trench said:
Taken from ESPN.
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What's Fryer going to say? That the refs blew an obvious call because the basket was clearly moving due to Gasol hitting it, and that the Magic should have won?

It was a blown call. One of many, but this one literally should have ended the game with the Magic winning and now up 2-1 in the Finals.

K*be Bryant still won't get a legit title w/out Shaq in my eyes and in the eyes of many other fans. :devilwink:
 
What? No two pages of disdain when the horrible calls go in ORL favor...


yes yes, I know...how dare a Lakers fan say such a thing....Ill just name the worst call for now.

Luke Walton called for a charge when it should have been an and 1...turned out to be a 5 point swing...and that was right in the midst of the Lakers final push
 
man this thread makes us look like whiners.. and we arent even involved in this damn series!
 
DaRizzle said:
What? No two pages of disdain when the horrible calls go in ORL favor...


yes yes, I know...how dare a Lakers fan say such a thing....Ill just name the worst call for now.

Luke Walton called for a charge when it should have been an and 1...turned out to be a 5 point swing...and that was right in the midst of the Lakers final push
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It's OK now to complain about the refs since the Lakers lost. K*be Bryant is lucky that his team isn't down 2-1. :cheers:
 
DaRizzle said:
So you agree that there were favorable calls towards ORL? :ohno:
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I don't really care. What I do care about is that K*be Bryant should be down 2-1 yet had to have the refs miss an obvious call in order to let his team have a chance to win. :devilwink:
 
BrianWheeler said:
man this thread makes us look like whiners.. and we arent even involved in this damn series!
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We are all involved in the integrity of the NBA as fans of a team in the league.

Plus, I'm just having fun and killing time. Man, K*be Bryant with perhaps a tainted title? That's brutal for him. :dunno:
 
Yea it is fucking sad when a team can't even get some calls at home. That block by Howard on Kobe near the end was so clean you could have eaten your breakfast off of it, yet the foul was called. Multiple bad calls on out of bounds calls. You know what? If you are going to take 30 seconds delaying the game and arguing with players over the call, and standing around with all 3 refs saying they don't know who it went off of, you can bother to take the time to look at a instant replay and make the right call instead of just winging it. Just my 2 cents.
 
PapaG said:
We are all involved in the integrity of the NBA as fans of a team in the league.

Plus, I'm just having fun and killing time. Man, K*be Bryant with perhaps a tainted title? That's brutal for him. :dunno:
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bad calls both ways happen.. why is it tainted? Do you think Jordan has a tainted title? I remember a Howard Eisley shot being a good 4 feet out of his hand when a shot clock violation was called. Relying on the ref's is Bogus.. maybe if Orlando made at least 1 of their 5 FT's in a row they missed in game 2.. they wouldnt have to worry about that last second deal with Lee. :dunno:
 
Dwight Howard got away with about 10 moving screens last night, a few where he decided to throw a forearm at Derek Fisher. Bad calls happened both ways last night, as well as every game.
 
RR7 said:
Dwight Howard got away with about 10 moving screens last night, a few where he decided to throw a forearm at Derek Fisher. Bad calls happened both ways last night, as well as every game.
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Actually moving screens are the norm these days it seems. They just make it look like the guy is doing a half ass move to the hoop, but by the way, during that time he is acting like an offensive lineman in the nfl. The only moving screens they call now, are the ones where you slide to the side.
 
His weren't of the feigning a move to the basket variety, he would move into Fisher, and hip check him, hit him with a forearm, or slide in front of him. Norm or not, it was a foul, commited many times. Don't whine about officiating when bad calls are made on both sides.
 
RR7 said:
His weren't of the feigning a move to the basket variety, he would move into Fisher, and hip check him, hit him with a forearm, or slide in front of him. Norm or not, it was a foul, commited many times. Don't whine about officiating when bad calls are made on both sides.
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RR7 said:
His weren't of the feigning a move to the basket variety, he would move into Fisher, and hip check him, hit him with a forearm, or slide in front of him. Norm or not, it was a foul, commited many times. Don't whine about officiating when bad calls are made on both sides.
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See here is my problem with your statement. In every NBA game part of what a player has to figure out is how the refs are calling the game. There is a big difference between refs allowing moving screens (The refs have decided they are going to call the game a particular way in regards to screens, perimeter contact, post contact, etc.) Players can figure that out, and adjust their game to how the refs are calling the game. If you figure out that refs are not calling moving screens in certain situations or are allowing more physical contact, you got with it and play on the edge of getting a call the whole time. You know when they are going to make a call, because they call it that way all the time.

Now that being said, it does not give the refs excuses for bad calls on straight up plays. Howards block of Kobe was a clean block. The blown out of bounds play are straight forward. No interpretation of the rules is necessary. Who did it touch last? It is that simple. Those, are bad blown calls in my book. Not the ones mentioned up above about moving screens, etc. Those calls require official interpretation is built into them.
 
BrianWheeler said:
bad calls both ways happen.. why is it tainted? Do you think Jordan has a tainted title? I remember a Howard Eisley shot being a good 4 feet out of his hand when a shot clock violation was called. Relying on the ref's is Bogus.. maybe if Orlando made at least 1 of their 5 FT's in a row they missed in game 2.. they wouldnt have to worry about that last second deal with Lee. :dunno:
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Because I say it is tainted. K*be Bryant!
 
Nice job by the Magic to get back into it. I love Pietrus' game -- exactly the type of thing we will hopefully get from Nicolas and even better in a few years. Hit the 3s, drive a little bit, defend. Those French guys can play.
 
Ugh... f'ing Lakers. This game would be over if Orlando made their damn FTs
 
Poor The Magic. So close to being up 3-1 but being down 1-3. T'willl be interesting to see if the refs give Orlando some love in order to extend the series.

So many champions are made on a single shot or a questionable call, while the 2nd place team forgotten.
 
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