OT: Hedo Sucks at Eurobasket - Raptors Fans Regretting Their New $53 Million Man

[Boob-No-More]

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/bas...43916-sun.html

I said at the time, it was a bad signing for the Raptors. Not becuase I think Hedo sucks. Not because he won't be productive in Toronto's system. But, because you don't commit that kind of money to a player that old unless he's the missing piece that makes you a contender. The Raptors won 33 games last season, Adding Hedo (along with all their other moves), might get them into the 1st round of the play-offs, but they have little chance of getting out of the 1st round and most certainly will not contend for a title.

And, there is a very good chance Bosh will leave next summer and then they are stuck trying to rebuild with their hands tied by Hedo's ridiculous contract.

Sure, he's a decent player, and a great role player on a championship caliber team. But he's not enough to put Toronto over the top. They are still a very weak rebounding, poor defending team (and got worse in both areas by giving up Marion to land Hedo). With their lack of rebounding and poor defense, they are doomed to fail in the post season. Is one and done in the play-offs for a year, followed by four years in the lottery (if Bosh leaves) really worth $53 million?

BNM

 

[SodaPopinski]

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[MIXUM]

i would take him. do you remember who beat us in portland on a last sec 3?

 

[blazerboy30]

I'm glad we didn't end up getting him. I would have liked to see him here for 2 years, but I sure am glad we didn't tie up ~$50million on him.

IMO, Miller will be worth more wins than Hedo for the next 2 years.

 

[Boob-No-More]

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Oops, sorry try this one:

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/basketball/2009/09/22/11043916-sun.html

BNM

 

[Wheels]

i would take him. do you remember who beat us in portland on a last sec 3?

I remember Robert Horry doing that to us in a game 5 a while back.. is that who you are referring to?

 

[Boob-No-More]

I remember Robert Horry doing that to us in a game 5 a while back.. is that who you are referring to?

And, IIRC, Horry didn't bank his in.

BNM

 

[Wheels]

And, IIRC, Horry didn't bank his in.

BNM

no he did not.. he hit it cleanly from the side.. the "Outlaw sweet spot" if you will

 

[SodaPopinski]

You are officially allowed to STOP talking about dagger three-pointers that ripped my Blazer fan heart out.

K thanks.

 

[Wheels]

You are officially allowed to STOP talking about dagger three-pointers that ripped my Blazer fan heart out.

K thanks.

yeah that one destroyed me! I remember that was my first playoff game. Kobe driving down.. we go to help and BAM Horry is open for 3.. as sad as you could make a 15 year old Blazer fan.

 

[RoyIsClutch07]

I'm glad we didn't end up getting him. I would have liked to see him here for 2 years, but I sure am glad we didn't tie up ~$50million on him.

IMO, Miller will be worth more wins than Hedo for the next 2 years.

For the blazers. I agree

 

[BasX]

I don't regret it.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't regret it.

You will!

 

[Master Shake]

Regret what? I don't give to fucks about how good Serbia does. He is basically the only NBA caliber player on that team IIRC. In Toronto, he has Bosh, Calderon, Bargnani, DeMar, just wait. It's not even pre-season, so I'll wait till the season starts.

 

[Wheels]

Regret what? I don't give to fucks about how good Serbia does. He is basically the only NBA caliber player on that team IIRC. In Toronto, he has Bosh, Calderon, Bargnani, DeMar, just wait. It's not even pre-season, so I'll wait till the season starts.

Serbia?

 

[blazerboy30]

Regret what? I don't give to fucks about how good Serbia does. He is basically the only NBA caliber player on that team IIRC. In Toronto, he has Bosh, Calderon, Bargnani, DeMar, just wait. It's not even pre-season, so I'll wait till the season starts.

Do you feel that he was work $53million for 5 years at this point in his career? Regardless of his performance this summer, are you happy with that decision? Knowing that he isn't the piece to get you into the Finals or elite group of teams?

 

[MARIS61]

i would take him. do you remember who beat us in portland on a last sec 3?

Yeah, it was Larry Bird, with Kersey smothering him in the corner.

 

[illmatic99]

$103 million among Turkoglu and Bargnani for the next five years.

Why the hell do Raptors' fans put Colangelo on a pedestal?

 

[BasX]

$103 million among Turkoglu and Bargnani for the next five years.

Why the hell do Raptors' fans put Colangelo on a pedestal?

Steve Fruitman > BC

Fruits is the reason we got Wright, Jack, George (then Belinelli) while ditching Hump and Jawai.

 

[BasX]

And god damnit Megatron, it's Turkey, the country is in his fuckin name

 

[BenDavis503]

Regret what? I don't give to fucks about how good Serbia does. He is basically the only NBA caliber player on that team IIRC. In Toronto, he has Bosh, Calderon, Bargnani, DeMar, just wait. It's not even pre-season, so I'll wait till the season starts.

It's cute that you think your team is going to do well next season! How adorable.

 

[BasX]

It's cute that you think your team is going to do well next season! How adorable.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fuck exclamation marks are annoying

 

[Master Shake]

Fuck, sorry for the megafail. Feel free to point and laugh.

And I regret nothing. I have faith in my team. Like all of you have faith in Oden, when you could of taken a very healthy Durant who is averaging 25 per game. So, while the price is steep, I feel he can deliver and when the season starts, everyone will see.

 

[BBert]

i would take him. do you remember who beat us in portland on a last sec 3?

You'd sign a player to that much money and comit the team to future cap hell because of one lucky shot? You are a funny guy.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Regret what? I don't give to fucks about how good Serbia does. He is basically the only NBA caliber player on that team IIRC. In Toronto, he has Bosh, Calderon, Bargnani, DeMar, just wait. It's not even pre-season, so I'll wait till the season starts.

How many of those guys were in Toronto last year? How many wins did Toronto have?

 

[Boob-No-More]

Regret what? I don't give to fucks about how good Serbia does. He is basically the only NBA caliber player on that team IIRC. In Toronto, he has Bosh, Calderon, Bargnani, DeMar, just wait. It's not even pre-season, so I'll wait till the season starts.

In addition to not knowing what country Hedo is from, you also know nothing about his country's national team. In addition to Hedo, they also have Ersan Ilyasova of the Milwaukee Bucks and Omer Asik, drafted by the Blazers with the 6th pick in the 2008 NBA draft and traded to the Bulls for two future 2nd round picks. Both of these guys outscored, and outrebounded Hedo in the Eurobasket tournament. In fact, Hedo was 4th on his team in both scoring and rebounding and shot the ball like crap (0.376 FG% and 0.293 3FG%).

And, he didn't exactly do this against NBA caliber competition. 10.5 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 2.8 APG on 37% shooting against inferior competition is pretty underwhelming for a 53 million dollar man.

BNM

 

[Master Shake]

How many of those guys were in Toronto last year? How many wins did Toronto have?

Dawg, who gives a fuck about last year. We had a losing year, so what? You can't deny the fact that Hedo brings something to the Raptors and he does give us a boost. DaRozen is 19 and is gonna be a spectacular player. We have a solid team, maybe not an NBA championship caliber one, (fingers crossed) but we're good and we can win any night.

I say, we do something Blazer fans have never done before in the history of s2...wait. When the season is 20-25 games in, than we'll see what Hedo has done for us.

 

[PapaG]

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/bas...43916-sun.html

I said at the time, it was a bad signing for the Raptors. Not becuase I think Hedo sucks. Not because he won't be productive in Toronto's system. But, because you don't commit that kind of money to a player that old unless he's the missing piece that makes you a contender. The Raptors won 33 games last season, Adding Hedo (along with all their other moves), might get them into the 1st round of the play-offs, but they have little chance of getting out of the 1st round and most certainly will not contend for a title.

And, there is a very good chance Bosh will leave next summer and then they are stuck trying to rebuild with their hands tied by Hedo's ridiculous contract.

Sure, he's a decent player, and a great role player on a championship caliber team. But he's not enough to put Toronto over the top. They are still a very weak rebounding, poor defending team (and got worse in both areas by giving up Marion to land Hedo). With their lack of rebounding and poor defense, they are doomed to fail in the post season. Is one and done in the play-offs for a year, followed by four years in the lottery (if Bosh leaves) really worth $53 million?

BNM

For clarification purposes, did you feel that he would be a good fit for Portland?

 

[Master Shake]

In addition to not knowing what country Hedo is from, you also know nothing about his country's national team. In addition to Hedo, they also have Ersan Ilyasova of the Milwaukee Bucks and Omer Asik, drafted by the Blazers with the 6th pick in the 2008 NBA draft and traded to the Bulls for two future 2nd round picks. Both of these guys outscored, and outrebounded Hedo in the Eurobasket tournament. In fact, Hedo was 4th on his team in both scoring and rebounding and shot the ball like crap (0.376 FG% and 0.293 3FG%).

And, he didn't exactly do this against NBA caliber competition. 10.5 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 2.8 APG on 37% shooting against inferior competition is pretty underwhelming for a 53 million dollar man.

BNM

I made a mistake, I haven't really been falling Eurobasket and I had a brainfart aswell.

Like I've said, all you guys are looking at, is how much he is making. He can play, players have bad games, bad stretches. Shit, it's Eurobasket, I don't care if he didn't even play. All I care about is how he preforms in a Raps uniform and I'll get to see that in November. So till than, I'll hold my criticism of how much we spent for him based on how he plays.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I say, we do something Blazer fans have never done before in the history of s2...wait. When the season is 20-25 games in, than we'll see what Hedo has done for us.

Actually, I agree we should wait. But a lot longer than 20 - 25 games. I'm sure Hedo will be able to be a valuable contributor for at least that long. Where I'd be concerned is 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 years from now when Bosh has left, the Raps are in the lottery and Hedo is sucking up $10 - $11 - $12 milliuon in cap space. That's when I'd seriously question this signing - not 20 - 25 games into the first season of his 5 year $53 million deal. A great honeymoon doesn't guarantee a great marriage.

BNM