OT: How Bout That Bayless guy? (1 Viewer)

[PapaG]

It's easier to believe than Bayless fans blaming Cho for making the decision about 2 minutes into his job, having the authority to override the rest of the bureaucracy (including McMillan, you claim) who wanted Bayless to stay.

Clearly, the Blazer & Vulcan bureaucracies made the decision, all were on board, and Cho was just the guy who looked for the best deal.

It was easy to be unanimous about a good athlete in the wrong sport, with a clueless lack of basketball instincts.

You make no sense, as usual. My post was about Nate, who was rejected on an extension, calling the shots. I KNOW Cho is a puppet. His biggest job at this point seems to be finding good deals for catered lunches while they all pour over advanced computer statistics and relay the information to Hat Guy.

I also never said that Nate wanted Bayless to stay. Ever. I never even insinuated it. I'd say I am surprised that you could derive that out of my post, but I can't, since I never know what the fuck you're trying to communicate.

 

[Darkwebs]

The recent rumor here in Portland is that Nate wanted to extend his contract another two years this summer, but was rejected by the team, who may want to move in another direction. Quick (I think) reported that this week on one of the sport shows.
Are you basing your bolded statement in fact, or are you just speculating to try and blame Nate for yet another thing?

I'm not sure if Quick reported it, but I know Canzano said it on his show that Nate had wanted an extension over the summer, but Vulcan and Allen rejected it and told him to wait until this coming summer.

Take it for what it's worth, as it's coming from the Bald One, but he didn't sound like he was making it up.

 

[jlprk]

You make no sense, as usual...I never know what the fuck you're trying to communicate.

Ignore my message, I post only to display my cool signature. This week you rate the first two.

http://sportstwo.com/threads/175506...er-Over-Nate?p=2489691&viewfull=1#post2489691

 

[PapaG]

I'm not sure if Quick reported it, but I know Canzano said it on his show that Nate had wanted an extension over the summer, but Vulcan and Allen rejected it and told him to wait until this coming summer.

Take it for what it's worth, as it's coming from the Bald One, but he didn't sound like he was making it up.

I think Quick may have reported it on BFT, and then Canzano used that information in a subsequent manner. Either way, we both heard it, and it does make sense. More than "Nate is calling the shots", which I find laughable considering his is on an expiring contract.

 

[MickZagger]

Not sure what all the hub-ub is about. I told people on here when Bayless got traded to Toronto he was going to flourish. He has a chance to play in a free-flowing offense that really works well with his talent. I think it pretty clear that he wasn't going to play like he is now in Portland, or hell, even New Orleans.

That said, we made a trade. I knew NO's record was an aberration, that team has no depth whatsoever. Every week that pick is looking better and better and I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't make the playoffs. A pick in the lottery for a player who wasn't going to be utilized correctly in our system sounds about right.

 

[MickZagger]

Larry Miller said that the Blazers were aware of Roy's knee problems even when they extended his contract in 2009. I assume somebody told Cho about Roy's knees prior to Cho trading Bayless for a future NBDL player.

A future NBDL player? Are you baiting?

 

[MickZagger]

You make no sense, as usual. My post was about Nate, who was rejected on an extension, calling the shots. I KNOW Cho is a puppet. His biggest job at this point seems to be finding good deals for catered lunches while they all pour over advanced computer statistics and relay the information to Hat Guy.

I also never said that Nate wanted Bayless to stay. Ever. I never even insinuated it. I'd say I am surprised that you could derive that out of my post, but I can't, since I never know what the fuck you're trying to communicate.

Its funny that you take Canzano and Quick for gospel.

 

[THE HCP]

Interesting how whatever team trades him gets worse, not better. Just sayin'.

 

[PapaG]

Its funny that you take Canzano and Quick for gospel.

I said it makes more sense than a coach on an expiring contract "calling the shots", not that I believe Quick's take as any sort of "gospel", whatever that means.

 

[PapaG]

A future NBDL player? Are you baiting?

You're right. I forgot to include the possibility of a Euro player that we'll never see in Portland.

 

[Blazinaway]

Bayless sucks. I am so glad he's gone.

Cho didn't make the decision. McMillan wanted it. Cho was brand new and got the best anyone could for Bayless, known around the league as a failure.

You can criticize McMillan for somehow not playing him right (I disagree), but you shouldn't criticize Cho for the decision. You could for what he got for him (I disagree).

Anyone can see that Bayless has no position. If he's gotten good stats per minute in limited minutes in 10 games on a bad team in Toronto--big deal, that's their mistake, not ours.

I read some of the comments from Tor fans in that games thread on their board, even with the win many were not excited about what they saw from Bayless.

 

[PapaG]

I read some of the comments from Tor fans in that games thread on their board, even with the win many were not excited about what they saw from Bayless.

Bayless had a GameScore of 28.4 yesterday. If Toronto fans aren't excited about that performance, then I have to assume that they are basketball idiots. He scored 31 points on 12 FGA and added 5 rebounds and 7 assists.

 

[Blazinaway]

Bayless had a GameScore of 28.4 yesterday. If Toronto fans aren't excited about that performance, then I have to assume that they are basketball idiots. He scored 31 points on 12 FGA and added 5 rebounds and 7 assists.

according to them his sloppy play earlier was in large part responsible for the big deficit - how many times are bayless and barbosa going to be able to do that?

 

[PapaG]

according to them his sloppy play earlier was in large part responsible for the big deficit - how many times are bayless and barbosa going to be able to do that?

And I thought this board was full of whiners.

 

[Natebishop3]

And I thought this board was full of whiners.

Well, to be fair, every star player that has been on that team has either quit on them, demanded to be traded, or left via free agency in their prime.

Damon Stoudamire.

Tracy McGrady.

Vince Carter.

Chris Bosh.

And we think our team has problems...

 

[PapaG]

Well, to be fair, every star player that has been on that team has either quit on them, demanded to be traded, or left via free agency in their prime.

Damon Stoudamire.

Tracy McGrady.

Vince Carter.

Chris Bosh.

And we think our team has problems...

Good point. After being bailed on so frequently, they probably subconsciously don't want to get too attached to any player, only to see him leave. Kind of like we Blazer fans will soon be, except instead of players leaving, it will be players having catastrophic and career-altering injuries just when they reach star level.

 

[Natebishop3]

Good point. After being bailed on so frequently, they probably subconsciously don't want to get too attached to any player, only to see him leave. Kind of like we Blazer fans will soon be, except instead of players leaving, it will be players having catastrophic and career-altering injuries just when they reach star level.

Better to bash him now, rather than praise him and see him leave for greener pastures.

 

[LittleAlex]

I think part of the reason that Bayless was traded was because Rudy was playing so well in the preseason. Thus, there was no room for Bayless at point guard OR shooting guard. Suddenly, the Blazers shut down trade talks for Rudy (remember Quick's tweet?) and dealt Bayless. Sadly, Rudy hasn't produced SINCE preseason .

Rudy has lit up the preseason every year he has been in Portland.

It just appears as though he fades when the regular season starts.


A disturbing trend for sure.

 

[MickZagger]

You're right. I forgot to include the possibility of a Euro player that we'll never see in Portland.

How many drafts has Cho had for us to judge him as a drafter?

 

[MickZagger]

Bayless had a GameScore of 28.4 yesterday. If Toronto fans aren't excited about that performance, then I have to assume that they are basketball idiots. He scored 31 points on 12 FGA and added 5 rebounds and 7 assists.

Toronto has a losing record since he's been there, making those stats absolutely meaningless.

 

[jlprk]

Eleventh worst +/- on his team full of losers. He sucks.

http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=1&season=22010&split=9&team=Raptors

Sergio was better.

 

[huevonkiller]

Eh... +/- is not reliable. Adjusted plus-minus isn't either.

That's why people use statistical plus-minus now, which uses adjusted plus-minus and regresses boxscore numbers onto it. It isn't perfect but much superior.

 

[craigehlo]

The only way Bayless would have improved this team is if he allowed the Blazers to perform a knee transplant with Roy.

 

[jlprk]

See all the meaningless stats above my post? I was chiming in like the good conformist I always am.

 

[huevonkiller]

See all the meaningless stats above my post? I was chiming in like the good conformist I always am.

Ah ok, I'm confused lol.

I didn't read the whole thread.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I didn't like Bayless when he was here. I still don't like him.

 

[huevonkiller]

What if he sends you an autograph?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Maybe.

 

[jlprk]

What if Sergio sends you TWO autographs?

 

[Minstrel]

What if Sergio sends you TWO autographs?

If you want multiple mementos from Sergio, just go to one of his games. Chances are, he'll throw a couple of balls to you in the crowd, while he's playing.