OT: Pacers quietly shopping Hibbert

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You know, I still think Hibbert is more valuable to a team in the playoffs than Lopez and Kaman combined (I know I shouldn't think that though)

Would it make any sense to find a way to bring him in as a starting center and then find a way to replace Matthews next season in FA?

I assume we'd include him for salary reasons? Would Lopez and Matthews plus filler even work? If deemed a favorable trade by those of you more.......sentimental towards the team than me
 
Mediocre Man said:
You know, I still think Hibbert is more valuable to a team in the playoffs than Lopez and Kaman combined (I know I shouldn't think that though)

Would it make any sense to find a way to bring him in as a starting center and then find a way to replace Matthews next season in FA?

I assume we'd include him for salary reasons? Would Lopez and Matthews plus filler even work? If deemed a favorable trade by those of you more.......sentimental towards the team than me
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I would do it. The guy had a bad half of a season. Before that he was playing very well. He's a 2x All-Star. He's a DPOY caliber player. He also wanted to come here. I would do the trade.
 
I think we should look into it. Lopez, Freeland, McCollum, trob with a first could work. A motivated hibbert puts us into contender status
 
This is a tough call. Hibbert was unhappy Indy matched Portland's offer and that team had locker room problems that crumbled any semblance of chemistry. 30 mil over 2 years for a guy that Rolo actually defended last season fairly well. I would not give up Rolo for him. Watch the Lakers go after him and offer up Pau
 
Mediocre Man said:
You know, I still think Hibbert is more valuable to a team in the playoffs than Lopez and Kaman combined (I know I shouldn't think that though)

Would it make any sense to find a way to bring him in as a starting center and then find a way to replace Matthews next season in FA?

I assume we'd include him for salary reasons? Would Lopez and Matthews plus filler even work? If deemed a favorable trade by those of you more.......sentimental towards the team than me
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Mmmm. I think I would have thought about this before committing 5 mil to Kaman. That 5 mil could have been used on a FA SG.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
I think we should look into it. Lopez, Freeland, McCollum, trob with a first could work. A motivated hibbert puts us into contender status
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Holy balls that's a lot of guys. I would rather deal Matthews/Rolo and then make a push to acquire another wing.
 
riverman said:
This is a tough call. Hibbert was unhappy Indy matched Portland's offer and that team had locker room problems that crumbled any semblance of chemistry. 30 mil over 2 years for a guy that Rolo actually defended last season fairly well. I would not give up Rolo for him. Watch the Lakers go after him and offer up Pau
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The fact that Rolo defended him well isn't as important as how well Hibbert defended everyone else in the league.
 
after watching dho eat rolo alive im not really sure hes got the chops against a great big man. that series was soooooo brutal for him.
 
Indiana needs to shed some $$ in order to bring back Stephenson for slightly more than what they initially offered. They're already at the tax, or slightly over, and because they used their MLE, are hard capped at 81 million, so they don't have much room to maneuver on his deal.
I've thrown this deal out there quite a few times, but Lopez, Freeland and Crabbe saves them 4.89 million on next year's salary, which gives them enough space to bring Stephenson back. They lose Hibbert, but get a solid replacement for him in Lopez. We can swap out Wright for Freeland, which costs them about 100K, but maybe fits better for their roster, as they already have Mahinmi, Copeland, West and Scola up front, so less of a need for Freeland.
 
RR7 said:
Indiana needs to shed some $$ in order to bring back Stephenson for slightly more than what they initially offered. They're already at the tax, or slightly over, and because they used their MLE, are hard capped at 81 million, so they don't have much room to maneuver on his deal.
I've thrown this deal out there quite a few times, but Lopez, Freeland and Crabbe saves them 4.89 million on next year's salary, which gives them enough space to bring Stephenson back. They lose Hibbert, but get a solid replacement for him in Lopez. We can swap out Wright for Freeland, which costs them about 100K, but maybe fits better for their roster, as they already have Mahinmi, Copeland, West and Scola up front, so less of a need for Freeland.
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would do
 
RR7 said:
Indiana needs to shed some $$ in order to bring back Stephenson for slightly more than what they initially offered. They're already at the tax, or slightly over, and because they used their MLE, are hard capped at 81 million, so they don't have much room to maneuver on his deal.
I've thrown this deal out there quite a few times, but Lopez, Freeland and Crabbe saves them 4.89 million on next year's salary, which gives them enough space to bring Stephenson back. They lose Hibbert, but get a solid replacement for him in Lopez. We can swap out Wright for Freeland, which costs them about 100K, but maybe fits better for their roster, as they already have Mahinmi, Copeland, West and Scola up front, so less of a need for Freeland.
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I prob like this idea better. That way you're not left without a legit two guard.

BTW, Nice capology.
 
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Eh. Upgrade over Rolo, but I like Rolo and would want him to come off the bench. Could we let go of Kaman or something? lol.
 
OneLifeToLive said:
Mmmm. I think I would have thought about this before committing 5 mil to Kaman. That 5 mil could have been used on a FA SG.
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Or it makes it easier to include Joel or Leonard in the trade since we added more center depth.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Or it makes it easier to include Joel or Leonard in the trade since we added more center depth.
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True. But that's not what his package was. If it's removing Wes for Joel or Leonard. Sure absolutely.
 
that would be a great package

could i fit it in my cap space?
 
Strenuus said:
Eh. Upgrade over Rolo, but I like Rolo and would want him to come off the bench. Could we let go of Kaman or something? lol.
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We could always pull a dick move and NOT sign Kaman on July 10th. Of course, that would kill our credibility with the players, but it's not like we had much to begin with in this veritable waste land that is Portland, Oregon.
 
Natebishop3 said:
We could always pull a dick move and NOT sign Kaman on July 10th. Of course, that would kill our credibility with the players, but it's not like we had much to begin with in this veritable waste land that is Portland, Oregon.
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I can't see this organization doing that and I hope they don't. Against the signing or not.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The fact that Rolo defended him well isn't as important as how well Hibbert defended everyone else in the league.
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You have a point but another point, I like centers who make free throws and Rolo is money. Hack a Hibbert in the playoffs would be a real drag to watch. Like I said, it's a tough call
 
Hibbert is another in the long line of "grass is greener" players in Portland fan-lore.
 
Like most folks, I think he was horrible in the playoffs. Who knows what the reasons are but he was a no show in the finals. That's a serious red flag for me but it is tempting to see if he'd bring it if he came to Portland. He's made no secret he loves the Blazers
 
A Hibbert, Lopez rotation at the 5 would be scary good.
 
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