OT: Rubio to join Minnesota

[santeesioux]

Stolen from realgm:

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

That's cause his buddy Rudy will be joining him

 

[3RA1N1AC]

damn, no way, ok who thinks he will be good? im bookmarking this!

i vote 15.0 PER

 

[santeesioux]

Wasn't he having a disappointing season in Spain?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

i seem to remember him shooting like under .400 or something...

 

[Nikolokolus]

Rudy for Flynn anybody?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

in 20 games he averaged 6.5/3.2/3.5 on .392 shooting from 2, .224 from 3...1.6 spg, 1.8 to/g

 

[SnakeOiler]

This is a major yawner. Rubio sucks.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I think he will be in the top 10 of PGs within his rookie contract, and has a better chance of being an All-Star than of being, say, Sergio.

 

[maxiep]

With the lockout, next year is going to be a ways off. He may even be able to play a full Euroleague season next year.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Wolves need to try and acquire the perfect coach for Rubio - Mike D'Antoni. Enough of this triangle crap!

 

[BrianFromWA]

Enough of this triangle crap!

Check. Kurt Rambis =/= Tex Winter.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Smart move by Rubio and his people.

 

[PapaG]

Smart move by Rubio and his people.

I agree. He was so shitty in the Spanish league this year that he may not even get another contract worth more than his NBA rookie deal. May as well sign on in the NBA before the lockout and get his $3 million or so/year.

 

[THE HCP]

If he can't put up big numbers in Europe how is he gonna do it here?

 

[BrianFromWA]

b/c you can't touch a guard in the NBA
b/c they player shorter games and less minutes in the EuroLeague
b/c he's a passer first, and I imagine his teammates in the NBA are better than in Europe
b/c he's 20
b/c as Kevin Love showed this year, #'s =/= winning. And the kid's won a lot in his short lifetime.

 

[BrianFromWA]

additionally:
2× led the Spanish ACB League in steals: (2007, 2009)
Won the Spanish ACB League Rising Star Award: (2007)
3× FIBA European Young Player of the Year: (2007, 2008, 2009)
2× Spanish ACB League's Best Point Guard: (2008, 2010)
2× All-Spanish ACB League Team: (2008, 2010)
European Player of the Year: Mr. Europa: (2008)
Spanish ACB League Defensive Player of the Year: (2009)
Catalan Cup Tournament MVP: (2009)
Euroleague Rising Star: (2010)
Won the Spanish ACB League Top 5 Trophy: Most Spectacular Player of the Year (2010)

All without big numbers.

 

[PapaG]

additionally:
2× led the Spanish ACB League in steals: (2007, 2009)
Won the Spanish ACB League Rising Star Award: (2007)
3× FIBA European Young Player of the Year: (2007, 2008, 2009)
2× Spanish ACB League's Best Point Guard: (2008, 2010)
2× All-Spanish ACB League Team: (2008, 2010)
European Player of the Year: Mr. Europa: (2008)
Spanish ACB League Defensive Player of the Year: (2009)
Catalan Cup Tournament MVP: (2009)
Euroleague Rising Star: (2010)
Won the Spanish ACB League Top 5 Trophy: Most Spectacular Player of the Year (2010)

All without big numbers.

Shitty player who got benched on Spanish League team (2011)

I thought I'd update your list.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Fair enough.

Numbers didn't change much from then to now, aside from a Rudy-esque drop in shooting %. And if he's that crappy, I still say the best PG in Spain, and DPoY is worth having on our team.

 

[PapaG]

Fair enough.

Numbers didn't change much from then to now, aside from a Rudy-esque drop in shooting %. And if he's that crappy, I still say the best PG in Spain, and DPoY is worth having on our team.

Rudy was also considered a great defensive player in Europe, and won DPOY there as well in 2008. Plus, Rudy actually has some international accomplishments, while Rubio was outplayed by Juan Navarro in the 2010 world championships and by Jose Calderon and Navarro in the 2008 Olympics.

If Rubio is anything more than an average player, I'll be shocked. He's slow, lanky, and can't shoot.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I get what you're saying, but I'm not sure that one of the detractions should be that, while playing in the Olympics at 17 on a silver-medal-winning team, he was outplayed by 2 NBA PGs in their prime.

I've never seen a 20-y/o put on muscle. That "lanky" thing is going to haunt him

A long-armed guy who's a terror in the passing lanes seems to me to be the best bet for D in today's "touch a guard and it's a foul" league. Much more than Jerryd and Armon's hyperactive nothingness.

 

[PapaG]

I get what you're saying, but I'm not sure that one of the detractions should be that, while playing in the Olympics at 17 on a silver-medal-winning team, he was outplayed by 2 NBA PGs in their prime.

I've never seen a 20-y/o put on muscle. That "lanky" thing is going to haunt him

A long-armed guy who's a terror in the passing lanes seems to me to be the best bet for D in today's "touch a guard and it's a foul" league. Much more than Jerryd and Armon's hyperactive nothingness.

Rudy was a "terror" in the Spanish passing lanes as well, and had even more awards than Rubio. Oddly, Rudy never filled out, yet he was a much better player against NBA competition than Rubio ever was, regardless of age.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I smell a bust who would have been cut by his Spanish League team, and wants to sign a guaranteed NBA contract before the lockout.

 

[PapaG]

Rudy's list of accolades. Remember, many posters were advocating trading Roy in his prime to clear room for Rudy at BBF.

Awards and accomplishments[edit] Pro career2x Spanish King's Cup MVP: 2004, 2008
2x Catalan Tournament Champion: 2005, 2007
EuroChallenge Champion: 2006
EuroChallenge Final Four MVP: 2006
FIBA Europe Young Player of the Year: 2006
Euroleague Rising Star: 2007
2x All-Spanish League Team: 2007, 2008
Catalan Tournament Final MVP: 2007
Spanish League Defensive Player of the Year: 2008
Spanish King's Cup Champion: 2008
Eurocup Champion: 2008
Eurocup Finals MVP: 2008
Led Spanish League in scoring: 2008
Led Spanish League in steals: 2008
NBA All-Rookie Second Team: 2009
[edit] Spanish national teamFIBA Europe Under-16 Championship: Bronze Medal: (2001)
2006 FIBA World Championship: Gold Medal
EuroBasket 2007: Silver Medal
2008 Summer Olympics: Silver Medal
EuroBasket 2009: Gold Medal
EuroBasket 2009: All-Tournament Team

 

[PapaG]

Is Rubio the Freddie Adu of the NBA?

He'll be 21 when the regular season is supposed to start, and his game is regressing as his peers catch up to him physically.

 

[DUB]

Rubio was outplayed by Juan Navarro in the 2010 world championships

Mills also played better than Rubio at the 2010 FIBA World Championship.

Rubio - Mills
PPG 4.4 - 13.8
RPG 3.1 - 1.7
ORPG 0.6 - 0.2
DRPG 2.6 - 1.5
ASPG 5.1 - 4.2
TOPG 3.1 - 2.8
AST/TO 2.4 - 2.3
FG2P 36.7% - 47.2%
MPG 25.1 - 26.7
FG3P 11.8% - 31.4%
FT 85.7% - 84.2%

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I never understood any of the hype about Rubio.

 

[MickZagger]

Is Rubio the Freddie Adu of the NBA?

He'll be 21 when the regular season is supposed to start, and his game is regressing as his peers catch up to him physically.

So you don't like Rubio?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

If he can't put up big numbers in Europe how is he gonna do it here?

Have you compared Brandon Jennings' numbers from his last year in Italy to his numbers his first year in the NBA?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Shitty player who got benched on Spanish League team (2011)
I thought I'd update your list.

You do know he was injured, right?

 

[jlprk]

I'd rather have Sergio. He's better.