OT: that Lin dude is crazy!

[SlyPokerDog]

He was a walk on. He has no bird rights. I agree if he has an opportunity to stay in new York he should, but if someone offers him more than what new York has to offer, which is min mle and only 2 years, what would you take? I think min mle is only for two years right?

He is the media darling of New York right now. That could translate into huge money from endorsements and appearances. If David Lee could make $8mill in endorsements when he was a Knick, Lin could make easily twice that.

 

[magnifier661]

He is the media darling of New York right now. That could translate into huge money from endorsements and appearances. If David Lee could make $8mill in endorsements when he was a Knick, Lin could make easily twice that.

That could be offset of his pay in new York. The only other concern would be how long they can sign him for

 

[Natebishop3]

 

[B-Roy]

That could be offset of his pay in new York. The only other concern would be how long they can sign him for

Mags, where the heck are you getting your information?

The Knicks can offer what any team can offer him next year, PLUS he's an RFA. There is no concern.

 

[BBert]

Re fans dreaming of bringing Lin to Portland: There is no PG in the NBA I dislike enough to wish he worked for Nate McMillan.

 

[PapaG]

Dude sold me today. I was out running errands, ended my errand morning at the recycling place in Beaverton, was listening to the game on 1080theFan, and had to do the dip into the Cheerful Sports Page to watch the last 6 minutes of the game.

I was trying to deny the guy, but he's an event and was fun to watch.

 

[magnifier661]

Mags, where the heck are you getting your information?

The Knicks can offer what any team can offer him next year, PLUS he's an RFA. There is no concern.

When you are a walk on, the team that signed you doesn't have bird rights. You must play for at least three seasons before you have bird rights. Am I wrong?

 

[magnifier661]

Re fans dreaming of bringing Lin to Portland: There is no PG in the NBA I dislike enough to wish he worked for Nate McMillan.

No I don't dream of Lin, just stating that Lin will have great offers around the league.

 

[Natebishop3]

Dude sold me today. I was out running errands, ended my errand morning at the recycling place in Beaverton, was listening to the game on 1080theFan, and had to do the dip into the Cheerful Sports Page to watch the last 6 minutes of the game.

I was trying to deny the guy, but he's an event and was fun to watch.

When was the last time a no-name player came out of nowhere and captivated the league like this? Jason Williams?

 

[B-Roy]

When you are a walk on, the team that signed you doesn't have bird rights. You must play for at least three seasons before you have bird rights. Am I wrong?

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/34839685?source=rss_blogs_NBA

You need to read his article.

He's an RFA because he was signed to a 2 year deal w/ GSW.

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Jason Williams is a great comparison. I hope Lin finds more success than Jason in the later stages of his career. Jason was flashy as hell when he came in and was an instant phenomena.

 

[Minstrel]

When was the last time a no-name player came out of nowhere and captivated the league like this? Jason Williams?

Jason Williams was a top-ten pick, #7 for the Kings. I wouldn't call that "no-name" and "out of nowhere."

I don't think there actually is a good comparison point in NBA history. Or at least, I haven't heard one yet and haven't thought of one. To be undrafted and the first time you get starter-level minutes to be putting up historically big numbers. Even unheralded second-round finds like Arenas and Redd didn't captivate like this.

 

[PapaG]

Jason Williams is a great comparison. I hope Lin finds more success than Jason in the later stages of his career. Jason was flashy as hell when he came in and was an instant phenomena.

I was thinking the same thing, but White Chocolate could never finish in the lane like Lin does, even when he was a phenom.

In advanced stats, White Chocolate was barely above average in his best years.

Maybe Lin is on the biggest fluke run in NBA history, but what's he's done so far surpasses anything Jason Williams could have dreamed of doing in the NBA.

 

[PapaG]

Jason Williams was a top-ten pick, #7 for the Kings. I wouldn't call that "no-name" and "out of nowhere."

I don't think there actually is a good comparison point in NBA history. Or at least, I haven't heard one yet and haven't thought of one. To be undrafted and the first time you get starter-level minutes to be putting up historically big numbers. Even unheralded second-round finds like Arenas and Redd didn't captivate like this.

The biggest surprise for me of Jason Williams' career was that he was selected 7th in the '98 draft. It was literally out of nowhere, considering his troubled history at Florida.

I remember watching that draft, and wondering "who????"?

 

[Minstrel]

The biggest surprise of Jason Williams' career was that he was selected 7th in the '98 draft. It was literally out of nowhere, considering his troubled history at Florida.

A reach in the top ten, but he was certainly fun to watch and part of the show that made the Kings relevant. The Kings made a smart move replacing him with Bibby, though.

Lin came from actual obscurity (from a basketball standpoint, that is) and has been much, much better, so far.

 

[PapaG]

A reach in the top ten, but he was certainly fun to watch and part of the show that made the Kings relevant. The Kings made a smart move replacing him with Bibby, though.

Lin came from actual obscurity (from a basketball standpoint, that is) and has been much, much better, so far.

I can't remember an NBA rise like Lin's out of nowhere. Anthony Morrow was a nice story for Golden State in 2008-09, but in terms of actually being The Man for a team, I've never seen anything like this in the NBA.

I'm just going to sit back at this point and enjoy it. My inherent resistance to the next big thing wants to kick its feet up, relax, and allow me to see what's next.

 

[Natebishop3]

Jason Williams was a top-ten pick, #7 for the Kings. I wouldn't call that "no-name" and "out of nowhere."

I don't think there actually is a good comparison point in NBA history. Or at least, I haven't heard one yet and haven't thought of one. To be undrafted and the first time you get starter-level minutes to be putting up historically big numbers. Even unheralded second-round finds like Arenas and Redd didn't captivate like this.

I know what you're saying Minstrel... I guess my comparison was more "captivated the league" and less "no-name player". White Chocolate was something to behold his rookie season.

 

[PapaG]

I know what you're saying Minstrel... I guess my comparison was more "captivated the league" and less "no-name player". White Chocolate was something to behold his rookie season.

He was certainly a story. Then again, his 12.8 PER was rather BLANKY, with the added bonus of a 19.1 USG%.

I think fans (myself included) were just dumber back then in terms of assessing value. I bought into the White Chocolate hype, but looking back, he was fairly terrible, and probably hurt those Kings teams.

 

[Natebishop3]

He was certainly a story. Then again, his 12.8 PER was rather BLANKY, with the added bonus of a 19.1 USG%.

I think fans (myself included) were just dumber back then in terms of assessing value. I bought into the White Chocolate hype, but looking back, he was fairly terrible, and probably hurt those Kings teams.

It was just flashy moves. Cool looking passes. The team was significantly better when they traded for Bibby.

 

[PapaG]

It was just flashy moves. Cool looking passes. The team was significantly better when they traded for Bibby.

The weird thing is that the one year they actually made a WCF, Bibby had a 14.8 PER.

He was much better in later years for the Kings, but they flamed out of the playoffs before making the WCF.

 

[MickZagger]

When was the last time a no-name player came out of nowhere and captivated the league like this? Jason Williams?

Ricky Rubio. He's kind of been overshadowed.

 

[B-Roy]

Ricky Rubio. He's kind of been overshadowed.

Ricky Rubio is a no name player? He was the 5th overall pick and extremely hyped compared to Lin.

 

[MickZagger]

Ricky Rubio is a no name player? He was the 5th overall pick and extremely hyped compared to Lin.

Not no name. But, he was the surprise of the year before Lin. No one thought he'd have as much of an impact in his first year as he's had.

 

[B-Roy]

Not no name. But, he was the surprise of the year before Lin. No one thought he'd have as much of an impact in his first year as he's had.

Well you were responding to this:

When was the last time a no-name player came out of nowhere and captivated the league like this?

And no offense to Rubio, but he hasn't captivated the league nearly as much as Lin.

 

[PapaG]

Not no name. But, he was the surprise of the year before Lin. No one thought he'd have as much of an impact in his first year as he's had.

Rubio has a 16 PER this year as a rookie. It's nice, but come on now. Lin is playing at an All-Star level.

 

[THE HCP]

Rubio was known around the world as the next best thing. This chinaman.......errrrrr kid has come out of nowhere!

 

[MickZagger]

What I'm getting at is Rubio was the darling of the NBA this season until Linsanity came around. I'm not slighting Lin either, I've watched every game of his since the Utah game.

 

[THE HCP]

What I'm getting at is Rubio was the darling of the NBA this season until Linsanity came around. I'm not slighting Lin either, I've watched every game of his since the Utah game.

Big deal! I watched every single one of his Harvard and D-League games! Have 'em on DVD!

 

[MickZagger]

Big deal! I watched every single one of his Harvard and D-League games! Have 'em on DVD!

Did you watch him take John Wall to school in the Summer League? Well I did.

 

[THE HCP]

^Nope I was doing your sister that night!