OT: that Lin dude is crazy!

[THE HCP]

Elias Says: Jeremy Lin became the first player in recorded NBA history to have 6+ turnovers in 6 straight games

 

[MickZagger]

Elias Says: Jeremy Lin became the first player in recorded NBA history to have 6+ turnovers in 6 straight games

Crazy thing is all the players on that list were good players.

 

[Minstrel]

Crazy thing is all the players on that list were good players.

It seems crazy, but it might make some sense: you'd have to be a pretty good player for a coach to allow you to keep playing when you're putting up one 6 turnover game after another.

The turnovers have been the one, um, flaw in his game. However, this is the first time he's been put in charge of so many of his team's possessions at such a high level of basketball and he's playing for a coach who accepts turnovers as the price of (successful) aggression. Hollinger has said before that for high assist point guard prospects, turnovers are one of the easiest flaws to correct over time.

 

[Mediocre Man]

It seems crazy, but it might make some sense: you'd have to be a pretty good player for a coach to allow you to keep playing when you're putting up one 6 turnover game after another.

The turnovers have been the one, um, flaw in his game. However, this is the first time he's been put in charge of so many of his team's possessions at such a high level of basketball and he's playing for a coach who accepts turnovers as the price of (successful) aggression. Hollinger has said before that for high assist point guard prospects, turnovers are one of the easiest flaws to correct over time.

I think they will get better as well. Keep in mind that under D'Antoni, Steve Nash was committing about 3.5 TO's a game, and he was an MVP

 

[magnifier661]

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/34839685?source=rss_blogs_NBA

You need to read his article.

He's an RFA because he was signed to a 2 year deal w/ GSW.

So reading the article; he is a RFA? How is that possible when he was waved? I read the explaination, but it doesn't make sense. I remember reading that once a player is waived; his contract is voided, but the money is still given to him. And since he is a "free agent" with no "bird rights"; why would he be tied down to a "mid level MLE"? That doesn't make sense either. I mean we got Wesley Matthews for Max MLE, and he was a Restricted Free Agent. I don't know if I believe what is written on this article. I would really like to read what Storyteller has to say about this.

 

[Mediocre Man]

It's a great thing for the Knicks

 

[magnifier661]

It's a great thing for the Knicks

Personally, I think he should stay with the Knicks, if they can give or match the best anyone can offer. My argument is that the Knicks are so far over luxury threshold; that they only have Min MLE to offer. $5 mil. I just don't see that's the max he can get.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Personally, I think he should stay with the Knicks, if they can give or match the best anyone can offer. My argument is that the Knicks are so far over luxury threshold; that they only have Min MLE to offer. $5 mil. I just don't see that's the max he can get.

Lin will be a restricted free agent this summer, meaning the Knicks can match any offer he receives, without respect to the salary cap. So if the Knicks want to keep him in July, they have every means to do so.

The Knicks do not own Bird rights on Lin because he was acquired on waivers. However, they are protected by the new Gilbert Arenas rule. That provision...limits rival teams from offering anything more than the average player salary to a restricted free agent with two years or fewer in the N.B.A.

 

[magnifier661]

Lin will be a restricted free agent this summer, meaning the Knicks can match any offer he receives, without respect to the salary cap. So if the Knicks want to keep him in July, they have every means to do so.

The Knicks do not own Bird rights on Lin because he was acquired on waivers. However, they are protected by the new Gilbert Arenas rule. That provision...limits rival teams from offering anything more than the average player salary to a restricted free agent with two years or fewer in the N.B.A.

Okay so it's because he has only been in the NBA for two years; which doesn't qualify him to earn more than 5 mil. Okay I got it. That's great news for Knicks fans.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Okay so it's because he has only been in the NBA for two years; which doesn't qualify him to earn more than 5 mil. Okay I got it. That's great news for Knicks fans.

Except for the fact that teams with cap space can actually offer a lot more than the MLE by including a massive salary increase in the third year.

https://webfiles.uci.edu/lcoon/cbafaq/salarycap.htm#Q38

The second year salary in such an offer sheet is limited to the standard 8% raise. The third year salary can jump considerably -- it is allowed to be as high as it would have been had the first year salary not been limited by this rule to the average salary

Might be a good move for some other team (ours, perhaps) to offer Lin the biggest contract possible and force them to match the equivalent of a max contract.

 

[magnifier661]

Except for the fact that teams with cap space can actually offer a lot more than the MLE by including a massive salary increase in the third year.

https://webfiles.uci.edu/lcoon/cbafaq/salarycap.htm#Q38


Might be a good move for some other team (ours, perhaps) to offer Lin the biggest contract possible and force them to match the equivalent of a max contract.

Okay so basically the first year is min MLE, second is an 8% raise and the 3rd year can be max?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Okay so basically the first year is min MLE, second is an 8% raise and the 3rd year can be max?

You are correct sir. As long as the offering team has cap space equivalent to the offer's average annual salary.

 

[magnifier661]

You are correct sir. As long as the offering team has cap space equivalent to the offer's average annual salary.

Okay, got another question. So if a team gives him a "three year deal" the third year is "Bird Rights"? Meaning the team that offers could be over cap and still able to offer that amount?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Okay, got another question. So if a team gives him a "three year deal" the third year is "Bird Rights"? Meaning the team that offers could be over cap and still able to offer that amount?

No--Bird rights only apply at the time an offer is being tendered. In order to offer a large 3rd year raise, the offering team must have sufficient cap space as of the date of the offer.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Wow - looks like DWill wants to stamp out Linsanity all by himself.

 

[illmatic99]

Triple double territory.

 

[illmatic99]

BTW, does any PG move so well off the ball as Deron?