OT: Tim Duncan

[THE HCP]

I'm watching golf highlights and Andy North just said, "he sunk it with his sand wedge in a really tight, awkward hole".

Schwing.

A couple years ago at the US Open I put together about 3 minutes of audio of people saying things like that together. Funniest thing ever....... I'll find it and post it.

 

[NOVoodoo]

Richard Jefferson.

just sayin'

Was gonna say Josh Selby, but you've got to be in the league to be in this discussion...

I'm hoping Tim Duncan actually is gay. After 16 years of dominating as the best PF in the history of the game, it'll be the first time he'll actually be a marketable asset for the sport.

 

[jlprk]

If he's not, we'll still have our new Commissioner for gay kids to idolize.

 

[STOMP]

So if a straight friend came up to you and said "Hey! Guess what? I'm getting married. I just asked her last night and she said YES!", would you respond by saying "Umm.. That's your business. I don't care"? That questions goes for you too, maxie. We're talking about two things here though. Of course, when it comes to basketball, I just want them to play good basketball.

Tim Duncan isn't my friend. He's a guy I root for on TV who I'm unlikely to meet let alone form a friendship with. If he were my friend I'd care about how his off court life is going. As it is, I wish the best for him and everyone else I don't know (athlete or not) but I just don't have a desire to dig into the personal lives of strangers. I'm fine with enjoying athletes plying their trade and then turning off the TV or going home and enjoying the real relationships with those around me

STOMP

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Living a straight lifestyle has worked pretty well for Duncan. He's rich, a superstar, etc.

Why hasn't living a straight lifestyle made ME a millionaire? I'm confused. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Duncan is incredibly good at basketball?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Agreed. Have long thought that if Duncan or Jefferson invited me over for a hot tub party to make damn sure that women were going too.

Yeah, I'm sure that was a big risk for you.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

If Tim Duncan wants to smoke some poles, whose business is it but his?

I'm sure there are professional Polish assassins who say the same thing to Interpol when they're caught.

 

[Denny Crane]

So you are saying that he could not have done the same thing if he would have been openly gay?

I don't know. Probably, but then again, in sports they may be more homophobic than we know.

What I do know is he lived the straight lifestyle. And that it worked out very well for him.

What I also know is that if his friends and family weren't in on the arrangement, then he lived a lie and lied to those people. Otherwise, it's nobody's business IMO.

 

[crandc]

No, Duncan is none of our personal friend. But it was noted here when Kevin Durant got engaged. When Tony Parker and Eva Longoria came to a parting of the ways. Do you think if Paul Allen decided to tie the knot with someone the board wouldn't be buzzing?

I'm not friends with anyone here, really, Spud & Blazer Caravan at least I've met, so I can call them friends. But that never stopped people here from letting us know about marriages, divorces, and other personal matters.

But let someone talk about anything related to being gay and it's OMG I don't want to hear about your personal life why can't you keep it to yourself!!!!! (clutch pearls and faint) As Kingspeed says, why the double standard? (well, we know why)

That being said, I also take rumors spread during divorce with a pinch of salt, although I have no evidence Ms. Duncan is mentally deranged.

 

[handiman]

...Duncan Donuts?!

Too easy. I was thinking more along the lines of a new spin on The Big Fundamental.

 

[Reep]

I'm not friends with anyone here, really, Spud & Blazer Caravan at least I've met, so I can call them friends. But that never stopped people here from letting us know about marriages, divorces, and other personal matters.

I don't have any problem with a poster giving information about themselves, as long as it doesn't turn into some kind of endless exercise (hetero or homo) in politics or get into explicit details. My complaint is that I don't care to spend time hearing anything about the personal lives of the players that doesn't affect the team. I also don't read US or People magazine. Maybe we need an OT gossip sticky.

The single exception is posts relating to the relationship between Mrs. HCP and beerboy. Seems like that is on topic for this forum.

 

[maxiep]

O

But they're not out. Magic insists he's straight.



So if a straight friend came up to you and said "Hey! Guess what? I'm getting married. I just asked her last night and she said YES!", would you respond by saying "Umm.. That's your business. I don't care"? That questions goes for you too, maxie. We're talking about two things here though. Of course, when it comes to basketball, I just want them to play good basketball.

But Tim Duncan isn't a friend of mine. I care about friends and acquaintances.

I think we as a society care far too much about the business of others. We would all be better off by knowing less about the personal lives of others, especially things they don't wish to share.

For example, I dated a woman for a few months who was a member of my larger social circle. We kept it quiet because we didn't want any weirdness in our group. We ended it on amicable terms and never told anyone. It turns out that a few years later she married a very good friend of mine. Would everyone be better off if he knew that we once dated and had been intimate with one another? It was no one's business but ours.

The idea of role models "just like me" is overblown. I don't have to be like Margaret Thatcher, Martin Luther King, Jr. or Milton Friedman to admire them. Be comfortable with the person you are and stop looking for justification from others. Let Tim Duncan live his life as he sees fit. His sexual orientation is none of our business.

 

[magnifier661]

But Tim Duncan isn't a friend of mine. I care about friends and acquaintances.

I think we as a society care far too much about the business of others. We would all be better off by knowing less about the personal lives of others, especially things they don't wish to share.

For example, I dated a woman for a few months who was a member of my larger social circle. We kept it quiet because we didn't want any weirdness in our group. We ended it on amicable terms and never told anyone. It turns out that a few years later she married a very good friend of mine. Would everyone be better off if he knew that we once dated and had been intimate with one another? It was no one's business but ours.

The idea of role models "just like me" is overblown. I don't have to be like Margaret Thatcher, Martin Luther King, Jr. or Milton Friedman to admire them. Be comfortable with the person you are and stop looking for justification from others. Let Tim Duncan live his life as he sees fit. His sexual orientation is none of our business.

My hero was my dad and brother. They weren't famous, but I took their acts as Gold. I agree with you that one doesn't have to be famous to effect another. Also, there are many gay men, not famous, that become great role models to the younger generation.

 

[STOMP]

No, Duncan is none of our personal friend. But it was noted here when Kevin Durant got engaged. When Tony Parker and Eva Longoria came to a parting of the ways. Do you think if Paul Allen decided to tie the knot with someone the board wouldn't be buzzing?

I'm not friends with anyone here, really, Spud & Blazer Caravan at least I've met, so I can call them friends. But that never stopped people here from letting us know about marriages, divorces, and other personal matters.

But let someone talk about anything related to being gay and it's OMG I don't want to hear about your personal life why can't you keep it to yourself!!!!! (clutch pearls and faint) As Kingspeed says, why the double standard? (well, we know why)

seriously crandc??? This post of yours seems directed at me as you're repeating the language I used, but it's way off base. Spud and Blazer Caravan aren't the only ones here you've met... I would have thought that you'd think we were friends as I think of you that way. I would care if you were getting married, divorced or were going through personal matters.

I very much doubt you'll find any prying personal comments from me in threads on Tony Parker's relationship(s) or Kevin Durant's or most any other player's personal life, as again, I don't really care to know or spend my time reading gossipy stuff. You will find me condemning reporters who go digging through players personal lives to feed the gossipy interest of some... I just did this related to Quick digging through LMA's life. I commented in this thread because having lived ages 6-11 in Winston Salem NC (where Wake Forest is) I'm a huge Wake and Tim Duncan fan. But even though he's maybe my favorite player ever, I don't pretend I know him or seek to find out personal info, especially since he's clearly a private person who isn't going on Oprah putting his personal life on blast. So off the court I just wish him well as I do everyone else whether they're an entertainer/athlete or not. Whether he's gay or straight really doesn't matter to me and I find it pretty odd that you'd imply that it does

STOMP

 

[KingSpeed]

But Tim Duncan isn't a friend of mine. I care about friends and acquaintances.

I think we as a society care far too much about the business of others. We would all be better off by knowing less about the personal lives of others, especially things they don't wish to share.

For example, I dated a woman for a few months who was a member of my larger social circle. We kept it quiet because we didn't want any weirdness in our group. We ended it on amicable terms and never told anyone. It turns out that a few years later she married a very good friend of mine. Would everyone be better off if he knew that we once dated and had been intimate with one another? It was no one's business but ours.

The idea of role models "just like me" is overblown. I don't have to be like Margaret Thatcher, Martin Luther King, Jr. or Milton Friedman to admire them. Be comfortable with the person you are and stop looking for justification from others. Let Tim Duncan live his life as he sees fit. His sexual orientation is none of our business.

How did you know she married a good friend of yours? Because they told you? Oh the horror! Why didn't they keep it to themselves??

 

[KingSpeed]

By the way, Maxie, why did you just tell us about this secret relationship you had? I wish you'd keep your private life to yourself! What a hypocrite.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

At my old work, you could tell who had been on shift with a particular gay employee by what they chose to share. Whatever they offered up in the form of women, he would offer the same back in the form of men. The conversation usually did not go that direction twice. I entirely agree with the point being made that society has no problem with being open until someone gay is open. Then it is a problem.

Case in point: What if the hot chick in "Hot for Teacher" had been replaced with a man? What if Bret Musberger had been talking up how hot AJ McCarren's boyfriend was?

 

[crandc]

Stomp, actually, I was not referring to you at all.

Reep, in general I agree with you. I also don't read gossip mags and frankly care little about the private lives of celebs. Even worse are those who don't sing, act, play sports or anything else, people without talent or accomplishments who became famous for being famous and for some reason we're supposed to care about them (Kardashians, Paris Hilton, British monarchy).

The exception is coming out. It's hard for a straight person to understand, but even now the large majority of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people are still in the closet, part time, all the time, maybe facing rejection or severe repression. They are living scared and isolated. So when an accomplished and highly regarded person comes out it puts cracks in that closet door. I have no idea whether or not Tim Duncan is bi, but if perchance after his divorce is complete he lives openly with a male partner, I can guarantee the entire LGBT community will be singing the Hallelujah Chorus. Even the atheists.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I have no idea whether or not Tim Duncan is bi, but if perchance after his divorce is complete he lives openly with a male partner, I can guarantee the entire LGBT community will be singing the Hallelujah Chorus. Even the atheists.

Come on - you're telling me the Suns and Lakers have no LGBT fans?

 

[ABM]

I have no idea whether or not Tim Duncan is bi, but if perchance after his divorce is complete he lives openly with a male partner, I can guarantee the entire LGBT community will be singing the Hallelujah Chorus. Even the atheists.

Curious...why in particular the atheists?

 

[KingSpeed]

Curious...why in particular the atheists?

She meant Even the atheists will be singing the song about Jesus rising from the dead- the Hallelujah Chorus

 

[ABM]

She meant Even the atheists will be singing the song about Jesus rising from the dead- the Hallelujah Chorus

Makes no sense to me at all.

 

[maxiep]

How did you know she married a good friend of yours? Because they told you? Oh the horror! Why didn't they keep it to themselves??

That, or I was the best man.

 

[magnifier661]

So is this for sure? I mean is there absolute proof like Duncan admitting in court that he had a boy friend?

 

[maxiep]

By the way, Maxie, why did you just tell us about this secret relationship you had? I wish you'd keep your private life to yourself! What a hypocrite.

Ah, KS the Devil's Advocate. Okay, I'll play. I mentioned it as an example. If you wished I had kept it to myself, I apologize for intruding. However, I do think of you and the rest of the posters differently than I do Tim Duncan, with whom I have never conversed. You've mentioned your emotional struggles on here in the past, and I've empathized. Hearing about Tim Duncan's divorce doesn't really do anything for me at all, other than at the general sadness at another marriage failing. When you relate your struggles, I feel a specific sadness for you. When you post your triumphs, I feel happy for you. Get the difference?

 

[ABM]

...and now....a brief timeout for a touching musical interlude....

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[HomerLovesKoolAid]

......and for years I have thought that Tim Duncan doesn't suck.

 

[BBert]

So is this for sure? I mean is there absolute proof like Duncan admitting in court that he had a boy friend?

Nope. Just an entire thread of people bickering over an unproven allegation meant to both enrich the accuser and to cause embarrassment to an ex-spouse.

This must be the bored S2 Blazers board.

 

[magnifier661]

Nope. Just an entire thread of people bickering over an unproven allegation meant to both enrich the accuser and to cause embarrassment to an ex-spouse.

This must be the bored S2 Blazers board.

I figured as much

 

[KingSpeed]

That, or I was the best man.

Ummm I don't care about your persona life. You keep telling me about your "private life." See the hypocrisy?