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Without Westbrook OKC is very beatable

I agree. The cheap owner didn't account for injuries and built a lethal but shallow team.


OKC is probably figuring they will make their run in the playoffs, when it counts. But if that team isn't 90% healthy, I think they struggle in the playoffs.
 
The increase in quality of play might get a slight increase in attendance or ratings, but it would be very hard for this to cover the revenue lost from going to even an 70 game schedule.

I didn't say it would. But it's a necessary change for the "health" of the product.
 
I know some here will think I'm insane (OK, some already do), but I think Westbrook being out makes the Thunder better in two ways. Westbrook has always been a high volume, low efficiency chucker, and was even worse this year than in the past. His shooting percentages are abysmal, but because he thinks he's Batman, and not the Robin he really is, he takes shots away from the much more efficient Kevin Durant. Look at these numbers and tell me if you don't see the obvious problem with Westbrook's game:

Russel Westbrook:
USG% = 32.6
FGA/36 = 19.6
3FGA/36 = 4.8

FG% = .424
3FG% = .309
FT% = .793
TS% = .518
eFG% = .462

Kevin Durant:
USG% = 29.8
FGA/36 = 17.5
3FGA/36 = 4.3
FG% = .490
3FG% = .424
FT% = .886
TS% = .628
eFG% = .542


What a bizarre world Russell Westbrook lives in that he actually thinks he deserves to have a higher USG% and more FGA/36 and more 3FGA/36 than Kevin Durant. Durant is phenomenally more efficient and just flat out one of the best offensive players in the league.

So, if Westbrook is out, that should mean more shots for Durant which means OKC's offensive Eff should go up substantially. Reggie Jackson is also a much better shooter than Russell Westbrook - but without Westbrook's incredibly narcissistic arrogance (I realize that could be considered redundant, but it's the only way I can think of to describe Westbrook's self-love and self importance).

In addition to taking shots away from Durant in general, Westbrook especially freezes out Durant in the 4th quarter of close games. He thinks he's the man, so he's going to be the one taking the big shots, when by all rights it should be Kevin Durant taking the big shots with the game on the line. Westbrook consistently freezes out Durant and calls his own number in the 4th quarter of playoff games. I think OKC will close out close games better with Durant rightly getting the bulk of the shots with the game on the line. He's much more dangerous, especially from 3-point range, more likely to get fouled and more likely to make his FTs when he does.

In case, you can't tell, I absolutely hate Russell Westbrook's game. Which is why I'm glad he plays for OKC. In my opinion, Russell Westbrook dominating ball during the 4th quarter of close playoff games is the biggest obstacle to Kevin Durant winning an NBA championship. There is no denying the guy has talent, just not nearly as much as he thinks he does. He could be a great number 2 option, if he ever realizes that's what he is. He has the second best player in the world as a teammate, but he truly thinks he's better to the detriment of his team.

Of course, there are also two areas where Westbrook's absence will hurt OKC. They will definitely miss his defense. And, although I think moving Reggie Jackson into the starting line-up will improve OKC's offensive efficiency (better shooters getting more shots), it kills their depth at PG. The drop off from Reggie Jackson to Derek the Dinosaur Fisher is monumental (17.0 - 7.5). So, look for Jackson to play big minutes until Westbrook comes back. He'll have to.

So, all-in-all, I don't think this injury isn't as significant as many here seem to think. I think OKC's offensive efficiency will actually increase, but their defensive efficiency will get worse. Those two factors will offset each other, but due to the lack of a quality back-up PG, I suspect OKC will lose a couple more games without Westbrook than they would have with him. But, no way in hell do I think OKC suddenly goes from a .821 team to a .500 team or a .600 team. I suspect they will continue to win around 3/4ths (.750) of their games, give or take. The Blazers upcoming schedule looks to be much tougher than the Thunder's. So, we can't let up and just expect OKC to go away because Russ the ballhog is out. They won't, and the experience gained by guys like Reggie Jackson and Jeremy Lamb will just make them better come playoff time.

The game on Tuesday, without Westbrook, is not a gimme. The Thunder are playing at home and they still have Kevin Durant. They will be fired up to be playing the other top contender in their division, looking to make a statement and looking for revenge for their loss in Portland. Can Portland win? You be they can, but they will need to play one of their best games of the year - they will definitely need to play better than they did against the Clippers last night.

BNM
 
Ibaka plays awesome defense, he shoots the midrange jumper more accurately than LaMarcus. In their last matchup LaMarcus made an insane amount of tough shots against Ibaka; I don't think LMA can keep that up routinely.

I disagree. His defense is overrated because he blocks a lot of shots, but he gets most of his blocks by playing help defense. There is a lot more to defense than blocking shots and Ibaka is not an exceptional 1-on-1 defender. He's basically average and he routinely gets schooled by taller and/or stronger power forwards. The time Aldridge lit him up was not an isolated instance. Ibaka has always struggled to guard Aldridge - so much so that Scott Brooks had to switch and put Kendrick Perkins on Aldridge most of last season. And, I LOVE when OKC has to do that as it means they are playing 4-on-5 on offense. Ibaka cannot guard LaMartcus 1-on-1, not even close, and I can't believe how over the hill Perkins is at 29. He was never that good, but he's flat out awful now.

Steven Adams has the size/length/athleticism to match up with Aldridge (in theory), but he's an unproven 20-year old rookie, and if he's on Aldridge, who's going to guard Lopez. This is one benefit to having a true center next to Aldridge. Opponents can't simply let their center guard Aldridge and let their smaller power forward guard our center (like they did with Hickson last year). Now, they need some muscle and size to battle with Lopez down low, which means LaMarcus has a missmatch in his favor most nights.

BTW, who do you consider a better defender, Ibaka or Aldridge? Guess what, according to 82games.com, it's Aldridge by a significant margin. Here's the relevant stats (from 82games.com) at their primary position of power forward

Serge Ibaka:
Own Production:
PER = 17.8
PTS/48 = 21.7

Opponent Production:
PER = 14.8
PTS/48 = 21.4

Net Production:
PER = +3.0
PTS/48 = +0.3

LaMarcus Aldridge:

Own Production:
PER = 24.3
PTS/48 = 30.1

Opponent Production:
PER = 14.6
PTS/48 = 16.8

Net Production:
PER = +9.7
PTS/48 = +13.3

So, Ibaka basically gives up as many points as he scores, but Aldridge outscores his opponents by an average of 13.3 PTS/48 and holds his opponents to 4.6 fewer PTS/48 than Ibaka does. And, since Aldridge NEVER gets mentioned as all-defense candidate, Ibaka shouldn't either.

BNM
 
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So, Ibaka basically gives up as many points as he scores, but Aldridge outscores his opponents by an average of 13.3 PTS/48 and holds his opponents to 4.6 fewer PTS/48 than Ibaka does. And, since Aldridge NEVER gets mentioned as all-defense candidate, Ibaka shouldn't either.

BNM

You're asking too much from "experts", let alone some fans, to accept this stuff. It doesn't fit a populous narrative. But I do enjoy the effort and read. ;)
 
Unrelated to Westbrick (fluke accident) and Kobe (he's a dinosaur in NBA years), but sometimes it takes something like this to get the conversation started. I'm all for 70 or 76 games.

Agree. 70 would be fine. I know he's hated around these parts, but I like Bill Simmons' FA Cup-style tournament for the last 2 seeds. Also gives the NBA an easier way to draw the casual fan in after March Madness wraps up and before the playoffs starts.
 
Also, too damn many pre-season games. There should be 4 preseason games, about 60 regular season games, and 6 teams per conference playoff, with the top two seeds getting byes. Of course, the teams that get buys would need to not be punished for it financially, like have the league pay them something?

I doubt this will ever happen though because how would teams make up the revenue? Increase ticket prices? They'd really be banking on the hope that these moves would increase interest to an NFL like level.
 
BNM,

Did you watch OKC in the playoffs? Westbrook makes that whole engine run. Without him causing havoc opposing defense can stay in position and play Durant straight up. The Thunder score far more points per possession with Westbrook in the game and tonights low score is a good indicator. When Westbrook gets the defense out of position, it allows Durant to have awesome scoring efficiency. Its similar to our team, if you look at LaMarcus he has vastly inferior efficency numbers compared to Batum, Matthews, and Lopez. Does that mean those players can create offense as well as LMA? No, they are taking high quality shots as a result of LMA putting the defense in poor positions.

Plus now instead of having Reggie Jackson on the bench as a backup combo guard they will have to play extensive minutes of Fisher at PG. Westbrook is a far superior player to Fisher. We will get to see how this plays out over the next 20+ games.

The defensive stats you highlighted are mostly meaningless since they are for individual players when NBA teams defend the oppositions as a team. Its not five games of 1vs1. Its one game of 5vs5.
 
Without Westbrook, how is Stotts going to play head games with OKC?
 
Bump...

It took a couple games for Reggie Jackson to figure out he's not Russell Westbrook and that the team plays MUCH better when he doesn't try to be. Without Westbrook freezing him out, as I predicted, Durant is playing the best ball of his career and the Thunder are no longer struggling to close out games in the 4th quarter.

The only bad thing about this, is when Westbrook does come back, OKC will have a valuable trade piece they can use to finally get a serviceable big to replace the rotting carcass of Kendrick Perkins.

BNM
 
Bump...

It took a couple games for Reggie Jackson to figure out he's not Russell Westbrook and that the team plays MUCH better when he doesn't try to be. Without Westbrook freezing him out, as I predicted, Durant is playing the best ball of his career and the Thunder are no longer struggling to close out games in the 4th quarter.

The only bad thing about this, is when Westbrook does come back, OKC will have a valuable trade piece they can use to finally get a serviceable big to replace the rotting carcass of Kendrick Perkins.

BNM

Westbrook and Perkins for Asik and Beverley? That would ruin everybody's day.
 

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