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Okay but there needs to be a set rule before we start banning or suspending people. Something that I can explain to everyone and teach to staff. What exactly would that rule be? If you see characters instead of letters you should assume the worst possible word based on the number of characters posted?
And seriously, I very much appreciate you bring this up to me and this conversation we're having. I just don't feel comfortable suspending or banning people for what something might or could be.
I try to make things as black and white as possible. Just tonight in one of the threads @Strenuus called @SportsAndWhine a son of a bitch. I knew he was kidding and no malice or insult was intended but it did violate the personal insult rule. So I edited the post. Not because @Strenuus did anything wrong but because as some have mentioned on here I can't selectively enforce the personal insult rule. If I were to suspend @Sinobas over the worst I can assume he meant by posting random characters then I would have to make that same assumption about all posts using random characters.
Being perfectly open about this @Sinobas has used the n word before in posts and has been warned by both myself and Denny that this is not acceptable. Because of that I am looking at this very closely and have given it careful consideration. Even using "deductive reasoning" I just don't feel there is enough there to suspend him.
Why not just type lovely, instead of $#@@$$?
You gotta be kidding me.
There are many 6 letter words he could've meant instead of the one with origins in the 16th century.
I however won't type those words as I'm remembering my grandmother slapping me into next Sunday for saying them in front of her as a child.
Judging someone for what could be in their mind is a slippery slope.
Guys, everyone take your pitchforks and go home. I've always tried to treat this place more as a community then just a forum so it's good that we have these conversations from time to time.
But in an ideal community, I would like to see racists own up to it and apologize.Guys, everyone take your pitchforks and go home. I've always tried to treat this place more as a community then just a forum so it's good that we have these conversations from time to time.
But in an ideal community, I would like to see racists own up to it and apologize.
Yeh, I guess you are right. And I agree people need to call them out. Just being aware of racism hopefully tempers it some. I am aware that I might have a streak of racism in myself; otherwise how did I realize so quickly what he was doing? Hopefully being self-aware keeps me from being an asshole.Racists have nothing to apologize for. And if they did apologize, you couldn't take it seriously because no one should apologize for their belief system.
They will never change. They will always be racist. It is their constitutional right.
It is however, our constitutional right to call them out. Just continue to do this. White people hate being called racist. So much they will blame you for their own racism.
Yeh, I guess you are right. And I agree people need to call them out. Just being aware of racism hopefully tempers it some. I am aware that I might have a streak of racism in myself; otherwise how did I realize so quickly what he was doing? Hopefully being self-aware keeps me from being an asshole.
Let’s test this theory out shall we....... I think you know how I think after all these years....... what am I thinking about your sister right now?Even if someone is racist, it is not reasonable to automatically assume that they are saying or thinking something racist every time they have an opportunity to do so.
Even if someone is racist, it is not reasonable to automatically assume that they are saying or thinking something racist every time they have an opportunity to do so.
Cuz you were directing shit my way, FAMS???
That you would never be able to satisfy her, even if she were willing to give you the time of day?Let’s test this theory out shall we....... I think you know how I think after all these years....... what am I thinking about your sister right now?
Alright so that didn’t really turn out like I thought..........That you would never be able to satisfy her, even if she were willing to give you the time of day?
Even if someone is racist, it is not reasonable to automatically assume that they are saying or thinking something racist every time they have an opportunity to do so.
I know you like to play Devil's Advocate, but you should really stop defending him.
Speaking of tagging somebody’s name on here. I never get notifications when I am like you do on twitter for example. I’ll just randomly see my name in read as I am reading a thread.
Ya, I see the alerts for LIKES (because I receive so many of them).....but nothing for tagging. I’ll check my settings.I don't know what happens on twitter, because I don't have a twitter account.
But if I'm currently logged into s2, I will get an alert at the bottom of the screen if someone tags/likes/quotes/posts after a post I made.
Also there is an 'alert' tab that shows you stuff stuff as well near your user name at the top of the website.
Ok, I'll tell you want the word was:How about asking Sinobas what word he was actually saying and why it needed to be $&#*% instead of typed out?
If the word he says makes sense in the sentence and it warrants all the *%$#& then he shouldn't be suspended but if it doesn't and comes off as convoluted then you should suspend him cause he's lying.
