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I know he didn't. But to compare the two bannings is a false equivalence. @honkicracker seems to want to equate the two just because the result was the same.

Yeah there is a reason why I put you on block a couple weeks ago. Why I thought you deserved to be off block so I could once again read your comments is beyond me.
As you're POSTS are just like Marzul. pigheaded.
 
Man. You gotta keep a gig longer than that!

I had my rage against HCP going for two plus years!!!... yours lasted... 2 months?????

Dont be so predictable and mix it up. Treat this plave like your personal stage and jump from character to character. lol.

Why do you have any rage against HCP? He's says a lot of shit and I would not personally take any of it seriously.
 
You never said anything racist no, but you most certainly threatened a poster irl. Which @SlyPokerDog said was the reason why you were banned a second time.

Nevermind the fact that you admitted in a game thread a couple games ago you were Tunchi. @Strenuus even said 'you just outed yourself'.

Like I said, being banned on s2 means nothing.

Seriously? was that in a game thread?
I stay out of those and then sift through the aftermath later on, lol. And there is a reason.
Sure it was a true threat? The internet is easy to misinterpret? Sly is a pretty fair guy though, in my opinion.

I know that there are probably a few on here who think I might have tried to cause trouble with HCP and his work, but that isn't the case at all. I just played the game with them early on because If I didn't I knew they would have outed me, so I had to act like I couldn't stand HCP to them. But in reality, there have been also a person or two on here who have suggested trying a couple pretty good ideas for pranks, but I passed for fear of it actually getting that real and someone mistaking it for actually trying to get him in some trouble. I know HCP still doesnt understand it either, lol. I just felt like his character on here needed an enemy that would swing back is all.

Anyhow, if a true threat, no place for that around here. No matter how much we may disagree or poke fun or jab, we are still a community that comes together for a purpose and a love of a singular thing. Kinda like a family and that's like threatening your brother or sister. NO place for that.
 
Why do you have any rage against HCP? He's says a lot of shit and I would not personally take any of it seriously.

I dont. Never really did. Read the quote below.

When I first joined, HCP was away for a while on vaca or something and when he came back, he lit into me in his character. I didn't know it was a character at first, and I snapped back. Then I talked ot Sly. HE said this place likes the back and forth and that HCP was a cool dude in character.
Well, Im a musician. Entertainer. Love to laugh, pranks, etc. I ran with it and basically tried to become his ultimate enemy, calling him out and trying to play the victim and well anything and everything to make it look like my hate was real, and I succeeded without realizing the impending consequences of being so believable. I play rough and took it a bit far to the point that people were getting concerned about it and so I had to back off and come clean, cause I really don't want any real trouble to befall him.

Do I think HCP is a confident, borderline cocky ass at times? Hell yeah, but so am I!!! :)

Seriously? was that in a game thread?
I stay out of those and then sift through the aftermath later on, lol. And there is a reason.
Sure it was a true threat? The internet is easy to misinterpret? Sly is a pretty fair guy though, in my opinion.

I know that there are probably a few on here who think I might have tried to cause trouble with HCP and his work, but that isn't the case at all. I just played the game with them early on because If I didn't I knew they would have outed me, so I had to act like I couldn't stand HCP to them. But in reality, there have been also a person or two on here who have suggested trying a couple pretty good ideas for pranks, but I passed for fear of it actually getting that real and someone mistaking it for actually trying to get him in some trouble. I know HCP still doesnt understand it either, lol. I just felt like his character on here needed an enemy that would swing back is all.

Anyhow, if a true threat, no place for that around here. No matter how much we may disagree or poke fun or jab, we are still a community that comes together for a purpose and a love of a singular thing. Kinda like a family and that's like threatening your brother or sister. NO place for that.
 
Seriously? was that in a game thread?
I stay out of those and then sift through the aftermath later on, lol. And there is a reason.
Sure it was a true threat? The internet is easy to misinterpret? Sly is a pretty fair guy though, in my opinion.

I know that there are probably a few on here who think I might have tried to cause trouble with HCP and his work, but that isn't the case at all. I just played the game with them early on because If I didn't I knew they would have outed me, so I had to act like I couldn't stand HCP to them. But in reality, there have been also a person or two on here who have suggested trying a couple pretty good ideas for pranks, but I passed for fear of it actually getting that real and someone mistaking it for actually trying to get him in some trouble. I know HCP still doesnt understand it either, lol. I just felt like his character on here needed an enemy that would swing back is all.

Anyhow, if a true threat, no place for that around here. No matter how much we may disagree or poke fun or jab, we are still a community that comes together for a purpose and a love of a singular thing. Kinda like a family and that's like threatening your brother or sister. NO place for that.

*shrugs*
I wasn't the one who interpreted it.
It was something like 'I will find you irl'.
I logged in a couple days after it happened and went reading threads for Blazer opinions and saw it.
Sly said something along the lines. 'yeah that's a threat and banned'.
Then it went on for a couple more pages like usual with everyone putting their two cents in.

To me, I don't really care about tunchi as long as he sticks to basketball stuff, as it's his opinion and it's welcomed.
It's when he puts his head in other places that he gets himself in trouble.
Much like the most recent guy who got banned did. Sabins or wtfever his account name was.
 
I mean, look at my face? Do you really think I take this shit seriously? There are things in life to be taken seriously, and online forum banter is not one of them. lol.

And IF I really did have hate for HCP then the various people from this board would have heard be talking shit about him in person. But nobody on here Ive met has ever heard me say anything bad about him in person. ;)
 
I actually don't know why his original tunchi account was banned as I was busy with more education, and not visiting the forums at the time due to the mass of work I had.

@GrandJury care to tell the story?
 
*shrugs*
I wasn't the one who interpreted it.
It was something like 'I will find you irl'.
I logged in a couple days after it happened and went reading threads for Blazer opinions and saw it.
Sly said something along the lines. 'yeah that's a threat and banned'.
Then it went on for a couple more pages like usual with everyone putting their two cents in.

To me, I don't really care about tunchi as long as he sticks to basketball stuff, as it's his opinion and it's welcomed.
It's when he puts his head in other places that he gets himself in trouble.
Much like the most recent guy who got banned did. Sabins or wtfever his account name was.

That's very vague and when it comes banning. I would think a bit more definition would be in order.
 
That's very vague and when it comes banning. I would think a bit more definition would be in order.

Well I'm sorry I don't have a word for word quote for you. Nor the interest in looking up the thread.
Remember I wasn't the one who banned his first or second account. I wasn't even logging in when it happened.

Jesus what is wrong with people tonight.
 
Well I'm sorry I don't have a word for word quote for you. Nor the interest in looking up the thread.
Remember I wasn't the one who banned his first or second account. I wasn't even logging in when it happened.

Jesus what is wrong with people tonight.

Easy cowboy, I gotcha. :) Thats why I highlighted the portion. I didnt mean Clear definition on Tunchis banning instance specifically, I just meant in general.
The way you said that made it sound you could/should get in trouble for maybe entering a conversation you aren't knowledgable or versed in, or maybe just entering certain threads, lol. I was just being a smart ass.

I mean, you did say, "its trouble when you put your head in other places" is all. I just ran with it...But you are right about one thing...

Jesus, what is wrong with people tonight. ;):cheers:
 
Easy cowboy, I gotcha. :) Thats why I highlighted the portion. I didnt mean Clear definition on Tunchis banning instance specifically, I just meant in general.
The way you said that made it sound you could/should get in trouble for maybe entering a conversation you aren't knowledgable or versed in, or maybe just entering certain threads, lol. I was just being a smart ass.

I mean, you did say, "its trouble when you put your head in other places" is all. I just ran with it...But you are right about one thing...

Jesus, what is wrong with people tonight. ;):cheers:

I am waiting for a meltdown. I need my entertainment for the night! :drinkapint::popcorn:
 

For some, for others something else, but definietly something missing. :)

Wont get into a religious debate online... especiaslly with you! lol In person sometime sure.

But I do believe there can be as many faults with having a religion as a cornerstone of faith as it could be a blessing, and it isnt so much the religion or not, but the mindset/stability of the individual and how easily they are manipulated.

Meaning, to me the key to sanity, faith, maintaining a positive for yourself and others you are surrounded by, etc, can be found in many forms. Inspiration to do thew right thing can be found in many forms. If it is found through religion and it helps you become a better person as you continue to grow and live life, then im all for it. But I do not believe it is required in order to live a just, faithful life. :) I believe if the human mind and spirit is strong and properly educated on morals and how to teach yourself what is right and wrong, then a person can find 100% spritiual and physical peace on earth without ever having a Lord or God to worship.
 
You never said anything racist no, but you most certainly threatened a poster irl. Which @SlyPokerDog said was the reason why you were banned a second time.

Nevermind the fact that you admitted in a game thread a couple games ago you were Tunchi. @Strenuus even said 'you just outed yourself'.

Like I said, being banned on s2 means nothing.

Everybody outed themselves. We are Tunchi
 
Dude...learn the game then post. ;) no one tattled, you're just giving yourself up. lol.

But hey. Im in your corner. As much as I cant stand most of your viewpoints and disagree with most of what you say, I believe you have the right to say it. As much as some of the things you say make me cringe, lol.

God I want to meet this famous Tunchi guy
 
So uh, I see the post Sinobas got banned for but the original post was edited...at least I think the ban post is untouched but I'm not sure.

Maybe I missed it but there's a few six letter words that most people who use them would self censor. Not sleeze or asshat or anything like that. Way more offensive words.

I suppose it is more likely than not that he was using the N word but I wasn't able to see the post.
 
That was really dumb.

Banned.

Yes, I still have your address and will mail out your prize. Sorry I waited so long.


What? The post you banned him for was clearly making an academic argument pointing out the hypocrisy of the argument used against him. Dviss used the pronoun 'he' when he could've said Taggart. The purpose of Sinobas' post was to ask " how do we know he wasn't using 'he' to hide the fact that he really wanted to call him the n-word?". You think that sounds ridiculous? Well so do I and I'm certain so did Sinobas, but that's pretty much the exact argument that was being leveled against him for using #$#$%$.

Sly, your principles fell on the sword to appease a mob of virtue-signalling hysterics, whom in my estimation are every bit as vile as racists.

Edit: I read all the posts speculating about Sinobas' user history and the arguments about "patterns of behavior". Sounds more like people rationalizing their attachment to persecution. In a court of law all of that background information would be thrown out and Sinobas would be judged for the sole act of typing out *##%&. Who am I kidding, something like this would never reach the courts because no DA in their right mind would attempt to prove the indeterminable. #!$#@!$ is indeterminable.
 
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What? The post you banned him for was clearly making an academic argument pointing out the hypocrisy of the argument used against him. Dviss used the pronoun 'he' when he could've said Taggart. The purpose of Sinobas' post was to ask " how do we know he wasn't using 'he' to hide the fact that he really wanted to call him the n-word?". You think that sounds ridiculous? Well so do I and I'm certain so did Sinobas, but that's pretty much the exact argument that was being leveled against him for using #$#$%$.

Sly, your principles fell on the sword to appease a mob of virtue-signalling hysterics, whom in my estimation are every bit as vile as racists.

Edit: I read all the posts speculating about Sinobas' user history and the arguments about "patterns of behavior". Sounds more like people rationalizing their attachment to persecution. In a court of law all of that background information would be thrown out and Sinobas would be judged for the sole act of typing out *##%&. Who am I kidding, something like this would never reach the courts because no DA in their right mind would attempt to prove the indeterminable. #!$#@!$ is indeterminable.

Really though???

So you are like the guy who will continually use the exit lane to get ahead of a traffic jam to merge in at the last second rather than exit, like the lane is for, and then every time, claim you didn't know, or you changed your mind and wanted to exit at first????

What you describe above, in my opinion is part of the problem and a large percentage of the cause of our continual downgrade as a society and a community. Fuck what the court of laws say that haven't been amended to modern day life in two hundred plus years. Society is completely different now.

You are allowing someone to skate around the edges of what is right and wrong, because he is smart enough to be vague, all the while knowing the specific intent all along.

No. Nobody can PROVE the person meant to use the lane to cut into traffic like a selfish prick, but it is the truth and a fact that it happens.

We need to stop protecting these fuckers that are smart enough to skate around the edges in the gray areas and call them out for what they are.

Trolling, selfish motherfuckers that show just enough to cause controversy, but not enough to show indisputable evidence.
This kinda behavior is a major cause of our disintegration.
I don't want to talk to my neighbors anymore (not for reals, I already know them and are good folk). I dont want to socialize and small talk with people at the grocery store because that person is the next one to get in their car and cut me off.

This "out for myself" mentality, that has been the mainstay of American Culture will also be our downfall if we don't draw the line with this stupid vague behavior by people who have clear patterns.


So another example then is a man is convicted 2 times for kidnapping and sexually assaulting kids. (in reality he wouldn't be, but) he is then set free after doing his time. Do you think it is not rational for anyone to be concerned if you see him sitting on a bench in a park watching kids?
You dont know his intent but his history says he should not be there.

Why do we give out notifications if a past convicted sexual predator moves into your neighborhood?

The past absolutely has an impact on how we view people. And should play a part. Behavior is behavior and until there are signs of that behavior changing it is normal to say this person is still the same. Still behaving the same. Is still a racist. Is still a line cutter. Is still a bad person.
 
What? The post you banned him for was clearly making an academic argument pointing out the hypocrisy of the argument used against him. Dviss used the pronoun 'he' when he could've said Taggart. The purpose of Sinobas' post was to ask " how do we know he wasn't using 'he' to hide the fact that he really wanted to call him the n-word?". You think that sounds ridiculous? Well so do I and I'm certain so did Sinobas, but that's pretty much the exact argument that was being leveled against him for using #$#$%$.

Sly, your principles fell on the sword to appease a mob of virtue-signalling hysterics, whom in my estimation are every bit as vile as racists.

Edit: I read all the posts speculating about Sinobas' user history and the arguments about "patterns of behavior". Sounds more like people rationalizing their attachment to persecution. In a court of law all of that background information would be thrown out and Sinobas would be judged for the sole act of typing out *##%&. Who am I kidding, something like this would never reach the courts because no DA in their right mind would attempt to prove the indeterminable. #!$#@!$ is indeterminable.
The post he got banned for was not the #!$#@!$ post.

The post he got banned for was definitely bannable in this case. Trust me.

:cheers:
 
What? The post you banned him for was clearly making an academic argument pointing out the hypocrisy of the argument used against him. Dviss used the pronoun 'he' when he could've said Taggart. The purpose of Sinobas' post was to ask " how do we know he wasn't using 'he' to hide the fact that he really wanted to call him the n-word?". You think that sounds ridiculous? Well so do I and I'm certain so did Sinobas, but that's pretty much the exact argument that was being leveled against him for using #$#$%$.

Sly, your principles fell on the sword to appease a mob of virtue-signalling hysterics, whom in my estimation are every bit as vile as racists.

Edit: I read all the posts speculating about Sinobas' user history and the arguments about "patterns of behavior". Sounds more like people rationalizing their attachment to persecution. In a court of law all of that background information would be thrown out and Sinobas would be judged for the sole act of typing out *##%&. Who am I kidding, something like this would never reach the courts because no DA in their right mind would attempt to prove the indeterminable. #!$#@!$ is indeterminable.

He wasn't banned for the *&^#$ post.

He has previously posted the n word multiple times in this forum and was told by Denny and myself that if he did it again he would be banned.

He posted the n word. Doesn't matter the reason or the context.

I didn't do it to appease a mob or win likes or virtue-signal.

If he was truly trying to make some point he could have just as easily have done it by posting "N word."
 
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The post he got banned for was not the #!$#@!$ post.

The post he got banned for was definitely bannable in this case. Trust me.

:cheers:

From what I read, He understands that and still believes it was wrong. HE referred to the post where Sinobas was tryign (failing miserably) at making a point. But the thing is I htink he was using that point making as an excuse just get away with typing the word.

And that is the problem I have with benefit of the doubt. It should be superceeded by historical patterns. The historical patterns help to remove the doubt and assertain the true intent.

In this case, I full believe Sinobas was playing the cards in a simple attempt to just try to get away with typing the word in the forum. He has tried to skate that line in the past and thus, is guilty in my book.

Now here is the key. If I was wrong and that wasn't his intent, then WHY THE FUCK PLAY THE GRAY GAME, and just be straight and to the point. But no, he wanted to roll around the edges. Since he doesn't, and putting that together with his history, it is reasonable to assume he is guilty as charged.

Shit. If i'm blamed or accused of something, I a emptying my pockets ina a straight up effort to dismiss the accusations.

CASE CLOSED!!! ;)
 
He wasn't banned for the *&^#$ post.

He has previously posted the n word multiple times in this forum and was told by Denny and myself that if he did it again he would be banned.

He posted the n word. Doesn't matter the reason or the context.

I didn't do it to appease a mob or win likes or virtue-signal.

If he was truly trying to make some point he could have just as easily have done it by posting "N word." Instead he went full retard. Never go full retard.

Exactly.

Fair Judgment in my book.
 
And Ill add this. I cross alot of lines in here in a joking manner even it not everyone gets my jokes and takes me more serious than I am. With that said, I know what lines not to cross.

For example (even though I doubt he would care as I think Ive seen others do it), In all my back and forth with HCP and the games I played with him, I never once used a racial slur and called him any one of many espanic slur names. To me there is just no place for that. Period. Joke or not.

I fully believe we put far too much emphasis in words and are pussified as a society, but it still doesn't make it right to use racial slurs when we ALL ARE FULLY AWARE of the tension in this country.

Fuck around with each other all we want, but leave race out of it.
 

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