Zombie OT: Zion (1 Viewer)

[hoopsjock]

I dont get why you're stuck on the word tanking and acting like I need to bring forth a plan of how they do it. When I'm not at all saying the should tank. We all know what the general form of tanking is, you suck on purpose to lose games to get ping pong balls. The onus isn't on me to figure out how they do it if they decided to go that route, especially since I haven't even implied they should go that route.

In terms of 1st round picks, this year Olshey over sold us what his TPE was worth, which showed that he probably didn't know it wasn't worth anything... In my little perfect world they package the TPE and their 1st and get someone who could actually contribute in this decade...

The reason I think they should explore the coaching change is two fold yes I think their coaching has been lacking, but I also think if they got a new coach in and run into the same exact problems that's a very clear indicator that the roster is the problem. Also coaches are a LOT easier to find and get rid of then players are. I really question the coaching and the roster, the coaching in that I think they could get more with the talent they have, but I also don't think a new coach would jump in and make them a contender. A new coach could definitely do better at making adjustments, calling good time outs, not running the same 2-3 plays with a new "wrinkle" here or there. They have a forward problem, basically all of their forwards are role players, Turner's the only one even sort of capable of creating his own shot and his shot is terribly unreliable. Their Best two players are 6'3, and while both are good especially on offense they both are really sub-par defenders, that don't even offer length as a way to at least sway guys a little bit from pulling up and putting shots down in their face. Thinking they need a new coach and needing some roster changes don't have to be exclusive.

Honestly if I decided to go full on Tank mode, I'd have a serious conversation with Dame about it and see if he wants to stick through the process or be dealt that'd have to be the 1st part of the plan and the other pieces would kind of fall from that conversation. - AGAIN I'm not saying they should tank. - They're chances of finding a "great" player at 12th is about the same as at 20th most years so unless you can be really, really bad and guarantee 5th-ish or higher it's really not worth it.

No one was more pissed off about not using the Crabbe-TPE than I was but here is what happened:

Olshey probably passed up on using it for Mirotic last year, hoping something else better would come along. He admitted being too cautious with it and I'm assuming that is what he meant is that Mirotic could've been a Blazer. Ironically Mirotic had a part in kicking the Blazers' ass in the playoffs to make things worse. Admittedly, I also was hesitant to use the TPE on Mirotic because of his previous year shooting struggles and because I was holding out hope that the TPE would lead to taking on a bad contract for a 1st round pick instead of going to waste. After the season ended with such a thud, instead of Allen giving his blessing to use the TPE to go deep in the luxury tax there seemed to be a more conservative approach to not just adding money unless it was for something really good. They probably overvalued what they could have gotten for the pick and the TPE. After the draft it is pretty obvious they weren't going to add major salary. Now this could be because Allen was worse off than he was letting on, that probably had a little bit to do with it, and he didn't want to commit to something he might not be around to pay for.

 

[BlayZa]

itll be interesting to see how he goes against grown men

 

[THE HCP]

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[THE HCP]

And he had a block last night that was ridiculous!!!

 

[THE HCP]

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[Haakzilla]

...Zioff is going to need a lot more than dunks and a few easy blocks to become NBA All-star though @HCP he looks very slow and lumbering before he springs...will be very interesting to see which way his quickness can progress at the next level

 

[tlongII]

I think he'll be a star. Too much talent not to be.

 

[THE HCP]

...Zioff is going to need a lot more than dunks and a few easy blocks to become NBA All-star though @HCP he looks very slow and lumbering before he springs...will be very interesting to see which way his quickness can progress at the next level

Have you watched him play? He doesn't just dunk sir.

 

[kjironman1]

This is a pretty long thread about a player the Blazers will NEVER even have the slightest chance of getting.

 

[Haakzilla]

Have you watched him play? He doesn't just dunk sir.

...of course! Most (as in 65% +) of his points come from dunks/layups. Sure he's made a few jumpers, but he is shooting 20% from 3PT and 66% FT so yeah he doesn't "just" dunk...but primarily that's what he does and why his FG% is so efficient. Like I said, it's going to be interesting to see how he progresses at the next level and what happens to his body as he gets older. Already pushing 300lbs does not bode well for his future, just sayin

 

[THE HCP]

His post game is unstoppable.

 

[THE HCP]

This is pretty damn funny!

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[GrandpaBlaze]

Already pushing 300lbs does not bode well for his future, just sayin

He’s the new Shawn Kemp. Wonder how long it will take him to become Bloated Blazer Kemp.

 

[Haakzilla]

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[THE HCP]

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[Fez Hammersticks]

6'6" Shaq

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Lol what happened to LaMelo

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Zion is ridic.

 

[THE HCP]

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[THE HCP]

The guy on the left attempting a shot, is 6’9” 245lbs!

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

He’s the new Shawn Kemp. Wonder how long it will take him to become Bloated Blazer Kemp.

Kemp x Larry Johnson before the injury

 

[THE HCP]

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[CupWizier]

He’s the new Shawn Kemp. Wonder how long it will take him to become Bloated Blazer Kemp.

That's kind of a crappy thing to label the kid as Kemps problems were drug related, not talent related. This Zion kid is phenomenal and should be given the credit for what he has accomplished already instead of comparing him to a player that ruined his career through drugs. He is a beast.

 

[THE HCP]

30/10/5/4/1
Not a bad night on the road.

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[THE HCP]

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[South East]

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You know this guys gonna end up with one of the terrible franchises that will waste his potential. Aka Orlando. Has there been a team that has failed to develop young talent as much as Orlando.

 

[handiman]

Has there been a team that has failed to develop young talent as much as Orlando.

Obviously the Clippers of yesteryear. Maybe it's a Disney thing? That would actual be ironic...kids and all.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

BC @ Duke about to be on ESPN. If you got nothing better to do, may as well watch the Zion show.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

BC @ Duke about to be on ESPN. If you got nothing better to do, may as well watch the Zion show.

Future Blazer!

 

[THE HCP]

16/17/3/4/3 and a missed reverse dunk!