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Blazers Roy said:
I hate to be a dick and bring it up again, but we really need to bring Boogie in.

Trade anyone not named Dame,CJ or Davis for Boogie, there will be other Aminus.

Oh, and sign Thibs, ffs.
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Thibs is the minnesota coach now... is he not?
 
Cousins doesn't fit out culture. Trader Bob would get Cousins for Cliff Alexander but Neil Olshey isn't Trader Bob. Cousins has HORRIBLE character and he hasn't been able to get the Kings even close to the playoffs. The Kings had enough talent to make the playoffs this year but his attitude prevented it.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I am too also getting upset with the Dame hate, you could put curry out there instead and the result wouldn't be much different.
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Who has been offering up Dame hate? If someone did, that seems to be a very rare poster. However, just because something is pointed out like "he is shooting 17% from '3'since the Rocket miracle" doesn't mean you are a hater.....that is just a stat. It's a stat over 3 years so it's not just in isolation and it carries over different types of rosters. I think people can make an observation like that without it being hate in the least.

The Blazers were just undermanned and many people didn't want to believe that. The ones who were open to that Portland was not likely to win this series are not haters, just perhaps a little more realistic......certainly not less of a fan. If being a fan simply means looking at everything through rose-colored glasses, then perhaps the meaning of the word has changed.
 
TBpup said:
Who has been offering up Dame hate? If someone did, that seems to be a very rare poster. However, just because something is pointed out like "he is shooting 17% from '3'since the Rocket miracle" doesn't mean you are a hater.....that is just a stat. It's a stat over 3 years so it's not just in isolation and it carries over different types of rosters. I think people can make an observation like that without it being hate in the least.

The Blazers were just undermanned and many people didn't want to believe that. The ones who were open to that Portland was not likely to win this series are not haters, just perhaps a little more realistic......certainly not less of a fan. If being a fan simply means looking at everything through rose-colored glasses, then perhaps the meaning of the word has changed.
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I have seen many posts since this series began and even a little before where people constantly hate on dame. I mean yeah we can bring that stat up. Dame has also matured as a player and I think we can all agree on that. He also had to walk on eggshells with Lamarcus because he didn't really know his place while playing with him. Didn't wanna step on any toes as he's put it. It's fine to criticize but when you base it off a stat that can be logically broken down, kinda takes away your point in the first place.
 
It's not hate to point out a stat. We can put stats out all day. I could talk about the positive stats in his career and somebody in here would still pull a negative one out and go "look you're wrong".
 
Cippy91 said:
It's fine to criticize but when you base it off a stat that can be logically broken down, kinda takes away your point in the first place.
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I wasn't criticizing at all. Was just offering up an example that I'd heard and wondering if that would be considered being a 'hater'. Outside of one obvious example, I'm still not sure who is hating on Dame. Sure, people have pointed out parts of his game that still need work but that is balanced by parts of his game that have matured and become better. Taken in balance, that seems to be pretty realistic.
 
Cippy91 said:
I have seen many posts since this series began and even a little before where people constantly hate on dame. I mean yeah we can bring that stat up. Dame has also matured as a player and I think we can all agree on that. He also had to walk on eggshells with Lamarcus because he didn't really know his place while playing with him. Didn't wanna step on any toes as he's put it. It's fine to criticize but when you base it off a stat that can be logically broken down, kinda takes away your point in the first place.
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Double standards much?

You say it can be logically broken down, but you repeatedly are just giving up excuses for his bad play.

We all love dame. There is not one person on this board that doesnt want him to do well. We are all fans of the blazers.

He hasnt been playing well in the playoffs. Thats the bottom line. We can dissect why, and talk about how cp3 is better than him and doing a great job against him, but the fact still remains he isnt playing well.
 
Cippy91 said:
True, you can trade cj and get better but I'm just saying I highly doubt it happens. I can't read minds but I would think Neil and the organizations approach is more to grab a big free agent. Literally a big one whether it's horford or whiteside, etc. we need another wing while we are at it
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Well I'm all for making the Blazers better as a team, Not just keeping players around because they are fan favorites. I will say again, if you can better your team while trading one of your best players you make it priority to do some exploring around. Lots of options this summer for the Blazers!
 
Keep in mind, lots of great players struggling against playoff defense. Isaiah Thomas got shut down, Durant shot 7/33, Lowry has been awful, DeRozen's first two games were awful. It's hard to succeed in playoffs.
 
KingAlbertoJrSpeed said:
Keep in mind, lots of great players struggling against playoff defense. Isaiah Thomas got shut down, Durant shot 7/33, Lowry has been awful, DeRozen's first two games were awful. It's hard to succeed in playoffs.
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I will agree. I'm a bit suprised but glad at the same time the refs are letting them play as physical as they are. The more physical the game is the lower the shooting percentage should be.
 
It's natural to have wild reactions in the middle of the playoffs (esp. When your two games down.) You're seeing the outcome of a entire season In a few days. Hardcore fans with passion are going to run the gambit of emotions. Give people the right to be erratic. They've waited all year for these few days and will think rationally after the playoffs are over.
 
The way I see this team, we're in year 3 of a 5 year rebuilding plan. We should be in year 1.

I'm thrilled with what Olshey and Stotts have done.

I'm not on the trade anyone bandwagon. We have massive amounts of cap space to add a 3rd and 4th option.

This organization has proved it's heaps better than the Kings who have much better talent and depth.
 
People forget that DJ is probably the best rim protector in the league.

I bet Dame's not losing sleep over having his shots blocked. He likely knew it would be a challenge going into the series, because he understands the game of Basketball.

If you went trading every player because they don't get you a championship, or because they struggle during a playoff series, then the Warriors would not have kept Curry long enough to get where they are today.

The Bulls would have never 3-peat.
 
The problem is, Dame keeps driving into three or four defenders in the paint. They just collapse as soon as he gets in there, and he still tries to throw the ball up at the hoop. I liked the opening play by CJ (our ONE lead the entire game, 2-0) where he used the rim to keep Jordan on the other side, unable to reach over and block his layup. That was smart.
 
BlazerAce said:
The problem is, Portland needs more talent.
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FIFY. Portland's offense isn't very diverse. They only have a couple ball handlers (who are also their shooters) and the rest are basically skilled scrappers. Besides CJ & Dame, no one can do much off the dribble. Not one isolation threat on the block. On D, Aminu is nice but they've an undersized backcourt & Bigs. They are a work in progress and need some major additions if they're to compete at the top of the league. Internal growth alone won't get them to the prize. Neil has some work to do this offseason.

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
FIFY. Portland's offense isn't very diverse. They only have a couple ball handlers (who are also their shooters) and the rest are basically skilled scrappers. Besides CJ & Dame, no one can do much off the dribble. Not one isolation threat on the block. On D, Aminu is nice but they've an undersized backcourt & Bigs. They are a work in progress and need some major additions if they're to compete at the top of the league. Internal growth alone won't get them to the prize. Neil has some work to do this offseason.

STOMP
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And a bunch of cap space.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Double standards much?

You say it can be logically broken down, but you repeatedly are just giving up excuses for his bad play.

We all love dame. There is not one person on this board that doesnt want him to do well. We are all fans of the blazers.

He hasnt been playing well in the playoffs. Thats the bottom line. We can dissect why, and talk about how cp3 is better than him and doing a great job against him, but the fact still remains he isnt playing well.
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How are these excuses for his bad play? I acknowledge he's playing bad but there is a reason why and it's not an excuse. Dude is getting blitzed out there, has no room to do anything and by the time he has an open shot, he's not even in rhythm. I guarantee if you trap Chris Paul, he's not gonna play well either. It's no excuse, it's a fact. It's what's happening
 
STOMP said:
...in a year where everyone has a bunch of cap space.

STOMP
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I think they sign or absorb the contract of a quality starter. Better than the Aminu signing.
 
Cippy91 said:
How are these excuses for his bad play? I acknowledge he's playing bad but there is a reason why and it's not an excuse. Dude is getting blitzed out there, has no room to do anything and by the time he has an open shot, he's not even in rhythm. I guarantee if you trap Chris Paul, he's not gonna play well either. It's no excuse, it's a fact. It's what's happening
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ex·cuse
verb
ikˈskyo͞oz/
  1. 1.
    attempt to lessen the blame attaching to (a fault or offense); seek to defend or justify.
    "he did nothing to hide or excuse Jacob's cruelty"
It doesnt matter what is happening to him. Superstars rise up no matter what defenses are throwing at him. He is a superstar, but he has not done so since the rockets series a couple years ago.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
ex·cuse
verb
ikˈskyo͞oz/
  1. 1.
    attempt to lessen the blame attaching to (a fault or offense); seek to defend or justify.
    "he did nothing to hide or excuse Jacob's cruelty"
It doesnt matter what is happening to him. Superstars rise up no matter what defenses are throwing at him. He is a superstar, but he has not done so since the rockets series a couple years ago.
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Oh it doesn't matter? Ask Steph curry when he could barely do anything against the cavs trapping him last year. We saw how that went down. You can't "raise up" when that sort of defense is thrown at you. I could understand your point if it was just Chris Paul guarding him but it's not. I don't know what you expect him to do in the trap but alright
 
Denny Crane said:
I think they sign or absorb the contract of a quality starter. Better than the Aminu signing.
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Neil has made more right moves then not, but it's been a mixed bag. Things probably will get crazy in FA with all the capspace available around the league. While we'd all love to see them land their first major FA ever, just because they've got some extra cash doesn't mean they need to pay exorbitant rates for meh talent if a buying frenzy breaks out. Any big move in player personnel better be a good one.

Another hit in the draft would be nice too.

STOMP
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Curry was fine.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/curryst01/gamelog/2015/?mobile=false

Youre trying to justify bad play. Which is fine, youre obviously passionate about lillard as you should he. He is a great player. Bottom line is he isnt playing well when we need him the most.
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I guess we should expect Lillard to just shoot over double teams and average 25 a game on 50 percent shooting then. Early on the other night he had a few easy shots he should of made but I don't get how you think he should do great against the defense he was facing because not many top tier point guards are gonna do good against that defense.
 
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