OT Paul Allen Shows Off the World's Largest Airplane For the First Time

[noknobs]

What happens if the two pilots disagree on where to go?

 

[TBpup]

One of the most successful planes of WWII.....which was a few design engineering years ago.

 

[BBert]

It weights 500,000 pounds and carries 250,000 pounds of fuel. Just how fast does this thing have to go to be airborne?

 

[barfo]

What happens if the two pilots disagree on where to go?

They can see each other, so they can give the finger, or fire off a few rounds. Usual road rage rules apply.

barfo

 

[TBpup]

It weights 500,000 pounds and carries 250,000 pounds of fuel. Just how fast does this thing have to go to be airborne?

"Scotty....I'm going to need full warp power!" ~Captain Kirk

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I don't know how legitimate those questions are. Is anyone here even remotely qualified to design airplanes? I'm quite sure that lots of people who are worked on that design.

barfo

You don't get it as usual. The people who designed the De Havilland Comet were brilliant. They didn't really understand metal fatigue and the planes randomly disintegrated and nobody knew why.

I don't have any engineering training to KNOW that shit is going to fail. If I did, I'd have said so.

It just looks janky (scientific term like covfefe)

And weighs a godawful amount and if it falls out of the sky I wouldn't want to be near it.

Dviss' insane leap to us wanting Paul Allen to fail and the Russians to rule the world is completely ridiculous.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I'm going to guess that Paul hired some decent engineers to design this thing..... and that those engineers know more about aeronautical design than the people on this forum.

If they knew 100 percent that it was going to fly like a dream they'd just hop in and go. Maybe you would want to go with them and write a piece for the board.

 

[Minstrel]

You don't get it as usual. The people who designed the De Havilland Comet were brilliant. They didn't really understand metal fatigue and the planes randomly disintegrated and nobody knew why.

Yeah, there's always the risk that what you don't know will ruin what you built. That's an argument against designing anything new, including the original airplanes.

These days, at least, they have fairly sophisticated computer models to simulate flying it in the actual environment. That doesn't mean you can remove the risk of the unknowable (by definition, you can never remove that risk) but it does at least mitigate it because issues can emerge organically from all the dynamics being modeled that you may not have anticipated just by mathing it out on paper.

tl;dr Why you want the Russians to rule the White House?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Yeah, there's always the risk that what you don't know will ruin what you built. That's an argument against designing anything new, including the original airplanes.

These days, at least, they have fairly sophisticated computer models to simulate flying it in the actual environment. That doesn't mean you can remove the risk of the unknowable (by definition, you can never remove that risk) but it does at least mitigate it because issues can emerge organically from all the dynamics being modeled that you may not have anticipated just by mathing it out on paper.

tl;dr Why you want the Russians to rule the White House?

I'd rather he just build a space ship Enterprise before the Russians do.

 

[THE HCP]

I ain't riding on the thing!

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I ain't riding on the thing!

See bitches. I may not be no arrowspacer injuneer but if HCP don't like it......

 

[barfo]

I ain't riding on the thing!

You will, it comes with a mower attachment.

barfo

 

[dviss1]

You're out of your mind. Nobody is rooting for it to fail. I'm hoping it doesn't crash into a major city and kill thousands. It probably will though.

You're predicting that it will crash. Just as bad as rooting imo.

Yeah, that shit's crashing.

What I am thinking....

This stupid looking thing is going to be the Tacoma Narrows bridge and the de Havilland Comet of our time. I just hope they fly it out over the ocean when it falls apart.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

You're predicting that it will crash. Just as bad as rooting imo.

So a stock market guy on cnbc or whatever can't say he thinks the market will crash without being seen as rooting for it?

 

[dviss1]

So a stock market guy on cnbc or whatever can't say he thinks the market will crash without being seen as rooting for it?

A good one would bet on it to fail and make money in a bear market.

 

[dviss1]

Dviss' insane leap to us wanting Paul Allen to fail and the Russians to rule the world is completely ridiculous.

You gotta be kidding me... Russians rule the world? Dafuq are you talking about? I'm just tired of paying them Uber fees to get to the ISS...

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

You gotta be kidding me... Russians rule the world? Dafuq are you talking about? I'm just tired of paying them Uber fees to get to the ISS...

I'm not talking about the Russians at all. Barely even recognized the line in the story about paying them for rides. The ridiculous part is you saying we all want it to crash cuz Russians.

Ridiculous on every level. Should have just ignored it because it is that stupid.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

A good one would bet on it to fail and make money in a bear market.

Well, I'll bet you 20 bucks this plane is a massive failure.

 

[dviss1]

Well, I'll bet you 20 bucks this plane is a massive failure.

And after we bet you'd do what??

That's right... Root for him to fail.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

And after we bet you'd do what??

That's right... Root for him to fail.

Nah, people dying in a terrible accident aren't worth 20 bucks to me. I was just being smart and getting a little cash out of it.

I've spent hours and hours watching YouTube of airplane crashes. I don't wish that on anyone

 

[dviss1]

I'm not talking about the Russians at all. Barely even recognized the line in the story about paying them for rides. The ridiculous part is you saying we all want it to crash cuz Russians.

Ridiculous on every level. Should have just ignored it because it is that stupid.

No, stupid would be thinking that question was real.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

No, stupid would be thinking that question was real.

Well, I missed something then. Easy to do when I'm working and only have a quick minute to scan the board.

 

[dviss1]

Pure bullshit, 100% bullshit.

No one in this thread is rooting for Mr. Allen to fail. Some posters have concerns about the planes design and safety. They have very legitimate questions about stress and weak points of the design, so do I.

You on the other hand have opinions and rumors you are presenting as facts and you are wishing for our president to fail.

Your opinions are 100% bullshit, on all accounts, and presenting them as facts is miss-information until proven otherwise. And you do not give a shit about finding out the truth.

There is something very wrong with your negativity.

Jesus Christ... do you really think that most of those questions were real ones? Just because someone disparages another for being negative doesn't mean that they're being negative. They're just pointing out negativity. Get a clue on that one. Now go back, and reread my post and see it as tongue-in-cheek and then you wouldn't have to post some shit like you did a second ago.

 

[Minstrel]

Guys, this is getting a little heated. Stick to basketball.

bodyman at least offered comps, even if comparing planes to planes is a bit lazy and arguably racist. The bridge comp was creditable, though.

 

[MarAzul]

Geez! I can't count the number of ways this abortion offends my senses and reasoning.

If you can find a runway to get this thing off on, can you imagine bring it down is a crosswind like often occurs at Portland? Coming in at a 30deg angle to the runway where it must straighten up darn soon upon touch down. Holy hell! I see noway the outside fuselage accelerates around in time even if it remains attached.

Allan reminds me of Hughes with this one.

 

[barfo]

Geez! I can't count the number of ways this abortion offends my senses and reasoning.

If you can find a runway to get this thing off on, can you imagine bring it down is a crosswind like often occurs at Portland? Coming in at a 30deg angle to the runway where it must straighten up darn soon upon touch down. Holy hell! I see noway the outside fuselage accelerates around in time even if it remains attached.

Allan reminds me of Hughes with this one.

They don't plan to fly it in and out of PDX.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

They don't plan to fly it in and out of PDX.

barfo

uh, the reason I used PDX as an example, is maybe people in this forum may have experienced the crosswind. That does not make it unique to PDX.

 

[barfo]

uh, the reason I used PDX as an example, is maybe people in this forum may have experienced the crosswind. That does not make it unique to PDX.

Yeah, too bad nobody designing the airplane ever heard of crosswinds.

SAD!

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

Yeah, too bad nobody designing the airplane ever heard of crosswinds.

SAD!

barfo

Oh I am sure they heard of them.
It doesn't appear the know how to account for them. It would not be the first time.

 

[barfo]

Oh I am sure they heard of them.
It doesn't appear the know how to account for them. It would not be the first time.

I'm just going to go ahead and assume they know more about it than you. Although I will stipulate that you probably know quite a bit about crosswinds generally. Fair enough?

barfo