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Steams me because this doesn't bode well do real Ferguson who is a real talent. Kind of a stupid move by OKC, I'd be on the horn finding out the value of 2K in OKC.

Then again they could play him at the 2 and pg at the 3 so maybe it will be alright for him. As long as he gets minutes he's fine.

Kinda kills his fantasy value though.
 
What a deal for Thunder. Not only they dump Oladipo which will IMO almost certainly be considered a bad contract down the line, they also get Paul George if even for a year.

Oladipo is not worth $21M a year anyway.
 
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Sarni said:
What a deal for Thunder. Not only they dump Oladipo which will IMO almost certainly be considered a bad contract down the line, they also get Paul George if even for a year.

Oladipo is not worth $21M a year anyway.
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A year from now watch PG and RW go to LA.
 
Natebishop3 said:
A year from now watch PG and RW go to LA.
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How are they going to be better than Thunder if they move there, though? Unless Ball, Ingram and Randle make a big step up, the supporting cast will be at best equal to the one they have in OKC.
 
Sarni said:
How are they going to be better than Thunder if they move there, though? Unless Ball, Ingram and Randle make a big step up, the supporting cast will be at best equal to the one they have in OKC.
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It's not about being better. It's LA. They're from LA. Maybe they want to return it to greatness?
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's not about being better. It's LA. They're from LA. Maybe they want to return it to greatness?
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Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe George will decide that he prefers to stick with Westbrook and recruit a third star? At this point it's hard to tell. There is a very high chance that he will bolt to LA at the end of season but for this package it was well worth it.
 
The incompetence of Eastern Conference GMs is fucking us over!

Just get Tatum and Smart for George and old players you Pritchard asshole you.
 
Fucking hell, couldn't we get Paul George for Allen Crabbe,Meyers Leonard and Trash Considerations??
 
For a short while, it looked like the imbalance between the West and East was finally evening out, yet here we are again. Two of best players in the east going West for peanuts.
 
So, Quick thought Portland's offer was better? Sabonis had a PER of 6.3 last year; have to say that Vonleh is at least as good. Then the 10th pick in the draft or Zach Collins (depending on when the offer was made). plus Crabbe and Harkless. I don't know: I guess Pritchard thinks that if Oladipo is away from Westbrook, he becomes an all-star.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Minstrel are you ready yet to concede that Pritchard is dumb?
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Have there been any details about what those other offers were? All I'm seeing are tweets saying "Can't believe he turned down better offers!" but no mention of what those offers were. By default, I'm skeptical that anyone gave him a great offer, since George is a one-year rental who's determined to go to LA, but I'd certainly agree that Pritchard is dumb if a better offer was reported (reported what it was, not just someone saying, "Jeez, he turned down a better offer!").
 
Minstrel said:
Yeah, but that wasn't about KP being unwilling to deal with the Blazers specifically. Beat writers are notoriously homerish--look at how they vote for awards. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they all thought their teams' offers were better because they overvalue their teams' players.

Is it possible Pritchard is just petty? Sure. That wouldn't shock me at all. But I wouldn't take the word of biased parties on it. That's all.
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Honestly, Paul Allen fired Pritchard on draft night, then forced him to run our draft afterwards. Basically because Paul Allen and his minions were jealous (to the best of my knowledge).

He wasn't going to get embarrassed by Paul Allen again. I don't think that's petty. He knows he's going to have to rebuild anyway.

He just as well help his buddy (Presti) out in the hopes that he'll be made whole in the future.

Just business. It's not what you know, it's who you know.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Honestly, Paul Allen fired Pritchard on draft night, then forced him to run our draft afterwards. Basically because Paul Allen and his minions were jealous (to the best of my knowledge).

He wasn't going to get embarrassed by Paul Allen again. I don't think that's petty. He knows he's going to have to rebuild anyway.

He just as well help his buddy (Presti) out in the hopes that he'll be made whole in the future.

Just business. It's not what you know, it's who you know.
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By KP's own admission, and all parties around the team, KP wanted to stay on for the draft.

And he got his last laugh by dumping Luke Babbitt on us.
 
Even if we offered Harkless, Vonleh, Davis and a 2018 unprotected first round pick, it would have been a better offer than what Indiana received IMO.

Vonleh is probably equal to Sabonis. Harkless is maybe slightly less valuable than Oladipo, and it's better to have a pick with which you can select anybody than not.
 
Minstrel said:
Have there been any details about what those other offers were? All I'm seeing are tweets saying "Can't believe he turned down better offers!" but no mention of what those offers were. By default, I'm skeptical that anyone gave him a great offer, since George is a one-year rental who's determined to go to LA, but I'd certainly agree that Pritchard is dumb if a better offer was reported (reported what it was, not just someone saying, "Jeez, he turned down a better offer!").
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Kurt Helin @basketballtalk
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Report: Celtics offered Pacers three first-round picks, two starters for Paul George on draft night wp.me/p14QT0-3r4j

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I believe these tweets about PG. And we'll likely never know what Portland was offering, but with all the other tweets defining KP's actions, there's a body of evidence that would seemingly make it likely that KP's bitter ouster as GM of the Blazers played some role in KP choosing to send PG to OKC instead of Portland.
 
honkicracker said:
GSW

Rockets
Portland
Spurs

OKC
TWolves
Jazz
Denver
Pelicans

Suns
Lakers

Kings
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Pretty much agree with you, but would slightly tweak your groupings thusly:

GSW
HOU

OKC
POR
SAS
MIN

UTH
MEM
DAL

DEN
NOP
PHX
LAC
LAL
SAC
 
A rare trade that not only hurts both teams, but destroys them!

Apparently, the reason the Thunder made the deal now was to get RW to sign an extension ASAP.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I think you may be over rating George. He is very good, but the guy didn't even make the all NBA team and you are all treating him like he is a super star. IMO he is borderline super star with potential locker room issues. Not sure his teammates all like him that much. Still wish we had him though.
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Agreed - I think A LOT of people are overrating George. Yes, he IS very good. But look at the results - he BARELY got his team into the Playoffs (1 game!), and that's in the East. Very good player, but Westbrook is better and a lot of people here don't think Westbrook is good...so if that's the case, the George is garbage. LOL!
 
blue9 said:
Agreed - I think A LOT of people are overrating George. Yes, he IS very good. But look at the results - he BARELY got his team into the Playoffs (1 game!), and that's in the East.
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In the playoffs, though, he carried the team to four close games against the Cavaliers. Yeah, they got swept, but the fact that every game was competitive is very impressive considering the talent disparity.

I prefer to judge players by their skillsets, though, not "what they've led their teams to," as their teammates matter a lot for that. I don't think Michael Jordan would have led his team to any titles if he had been mired on the Kings his entire career.
 
Minstrel said:
In the playoffs, though, he carried the team to four close games against the Cavaliers. Yeah, they got swept, but the fact that every game was competitive is very impressive considering the talent disparity.

I prefer to judge players by their skillsets, though, not "what they've led their teams to," as their teammates matter a lot for that. I don't think Michael Jordan would have led his team to any titles if he had been mired on the Kings his entire career.
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True enough. I still think that most big name players that aren't LBJ tend to get overrated by a lot of people.
 
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