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It would be nice to get him back in the organization though if he isn't offered a head coaching gig.
 
chris_in_pdx said:
Better option than Stotts?
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With the Way Stotts helped tank the end or our season I am in favor of bringing Monty back.
 
DAMN!!!!! I can't believe that.
 
No, he was a great assistant and did fine in New Orleans. Their problems were roster construction and injuries. I think he was fourth longest tenured coach in the league? Zero chance they could contend with their issues. But Stotts has been better than expected here and I'd rather have steady continuity as opposed to lateral upgrades.
 
not surprised, Monty was always just a rebuild coach for them. Now that they ware looking ready to take the next step, its time to bring in the big guns.
 
donkiez said:
not surprised, Monty was always just a rebuild coach for them. Now that they ware looking ready to take the next step, its time to bring in the big guns.
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Maybe Monty's old boss?

Seriously, that is an organization that is always strapped for cash. They almost left NO a few years ago, but needed a tax payer backed bond measure to keep the team in NO. What "big name" are they going to be able to attract and afford?

BNM
 
Monty should find a job somewhere easily. Maybe not head coaching, but definitely assistant. I suspect the Pels got their eye on a certain coach to bring in.
 
donkiez said:
not surprised, Monty was always just a rebuild coach for them. Now that they ware looking ready to take the next step, its time to bring in the big guns.
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Who are the big guns these days? A college coach or a TNT analyst?
 
magnifier661 said:
Monty should find a job somewhere easily. Maybe not head coaching, but definitely assistant. I suspect the Pels got their eye on a certain coach to bring in.
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You are probably right since the season has been over for a month. Usually the coaches are fired a little earlier then this. They must
have someone in mind who they think is better.
 
Boob-No-More said:
Maybe Monty's old boss?

Seriously, that is an organization that is always strapped for cash. They almost left NO a few years ago, but needed a tax payer backed bond measure to keep the team in NO. What "big name" are they going to be able to attract and afford?

BNM
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Not sure who I would consider the big guns at this point. The difference this year is Anthony Davis, that kid is a freak and will be better than LBJ. When you have a player like that you find the money to make the necessary moves and people actually want to coach/play with him.
 
Got to agree that he's being blamed for the front-office failings. They made at least two very bad trades - dumping RoLo so they could acquire Tyreke Evans, and getting Jrue "always injured" Holiday for the pick that became Nerlens Noel. Presumably this is all with an eye to locking up Anthony Davis (as basically NOTHING else matters for the Pelicans) so perhaps they didn't see eye to eye.
 
There will probably be quite a few coaching openings this offseason. Monty would definitely be a great assistant again but Toronto would be a good fit for him
 
Davis, Asik, and Jrue Holiday are all above average defenders. Any time you can have a PF/C combo of Davis and Asik, and be in the bottom 3rd defensively in the league, I think says something about the scheme they're running there. Seems like a decent guy, but don't think he's a great head coach.
 
RR7 said:
Davis, Asik, and Jrue Holiday are all above average defenders. Any time you can have a PF/C combo of Davis and Asik, and be in the bottom 3rd defensively in the league, I think says something about the scheme they're running there. Seems like a decent guy, but don't think he's a great head coach.
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Coaching in the west, that's a tougher job than the eastern conference. Pelicans would have competed if they weren't in the west.
 
Boob-No-More said:
Maybe Monty's old boss?

Seriously, that is an organization that is always strapped for cash. They almost left NO a few years ago, but needed a tax payer backed bond measure to keep the team in NO. What "big name" are they going to be able to attract and afford?

BNM
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Incorrect. You are thinking of George Shin the previous owner who was a cheapskate. The current owner also owns the NFL Saints and has plenty of money. He is old as dirt, very impatient, wants to win now, and doesn't mind spending money to do it.
 
riverman said:
Coaching in the west, that's a tougher job than the eastern conference. Pelicans would have competed if they weren't in the west.
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They still had a pretty bad defense for having good defenders on the roster.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Got to agree that he's being blamed for the front-office failings. They made at least two very bad trades - dumping RoLo so they could acquire Tyreke Evans, and getting Jrue "always injured" Holiday for the pick that became Nerlens Noel. Presumably this is all with an eye to locking up Anthony Davis (as basically NOTHING else matters for the Pelicans) so perhaps they didn't see eye to eye.
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They also traded away this years draft pick for the one year rental of Asik. They've been so obsessed with the idea of urgently competing for the playoffs instead of building a talented core for a decade. Davis is still learning and hasn't reached his peak; but the team has lost a number of young assets for the result of a first round exit. They should have followed the Thunders model of building around Durant with youth while not rushing to compete until the core was ready.
 
Draco said:
Incorrect. You are thinking of George Shin the previous owner who was a cheapskate. The current owner also owns the NFL Saints and has plenty of money. He is old as dirt, very impatient, wants to win now, and doesn't mind spending money to do it.
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Yeah, I know Shinn sold the team to Tom Benson, and one of the main reasons he's as rich as he is is the tax subsidies the Saints have received over the last 30 years, as well as the $400 million in subsidies they will receive over the next 10.

So, he has money, mostly thanks to the tax payers of the state of Louisiana, but the Pelicans situation is a little murky right now. Technically, he only owns 5% of the Pelicans, but that's 100% of the voting shares. The other 95% (all non-voting) are held in a trust for his daughter and two grandchildren. However, they're in the middle of a big legal fight over that now. He wants to cut out his heirs and give both teams to his 3rd wife. The heirs are trying to have him declared incompetent so they can take over the teams now. Very messy, and it will take years to straighten out - probably not until long after he's dead. Still, since he currently controls 100% of the voting shares in the team, I suspect he can hire whoever he wants to coach the team and pay them whatever he wants.

Still, I wander what big names are available, and of those, which ones would actually seriously consider the job. Yep, they have Anthony Davis to build around, but that's not exactly a franchise with a history of making smart player personnel moves (other than drafting Davis - the obvious choice). And, if they don't start improving, or worse, regress, there is a strong chance AD could pull a CP3 and force his way out of the Big Easy, which would probably get Monty's replacement fired, too.

BNM
 
I was going to write that this thread lazily assumes that the Pelicans' coaching search will look only at "big guns." I looked for a post to quote and found too many to quote--at least 6 posts are from lazy posters who assume it must be a "big gun."

The smallest NBA market is the least likely to find a big gun. Their last Head Coach hire was an assistant...Monty Williams.
 
This writer thinks that the VP wants a big name to attract fans, but that the GM is into modern stats, playing the inside-outside game.

http://www.bourbonstreetshots.com/2...ms/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Dell wants to space the floor, play small, and get plenty of ball and player movement, while Monty has a more conventional, old-school approach to the game. Dell filled out the rosters with his type of players, but Monty did not utilize them in the way Dell envisioned, so Dell got guys like Asik to fit into Monty’s scheme.

If GM Dell is Running the Show
Kenny Atkinson
Ettore Messina
Alvin Gentry
Sean Miller
Fred Hoiberg
Mike Malone

If VP Loomis is Running the Show
John Calipari
Mark Jackson
Tom Thibodeau
Jeff Van Gundy
Scott Brooks
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