Pendergraph for Jeffries

[Nate Dogg]

I would take Pendergraph back for Jeffries. Yes Jeffries did do two defensive stops vs Chicago but he has no offensive punch. What's your guy's take?

 

[KingSpeed]

Lateral move. Jeffries is developing chemistry with the guys. Keep him.

 

[Pinwheel1]

My take is we have a bigger need for defense right now then offense. And since our bench players rarely shoot the ball how would Pendergraph help us? Jeffries can guard multiple positions. He has been known as an excellent defender over the years, and as far as i can see his injuries have not effected his mobility. Pendergraph may be a better banger, but he is just another undersized center at 6'9". I would rather give the minutes to Leonard.

I would have no problem with Pendergraph on our bench, but Jeffries is more valuable than what the box score shows.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Nate Dogg, I feel like you must spend a lot of time at flea markets?

"I'll trade you two rusty nails for that there lampshade."

 

[Draco]

Pendergraph is horrible. I'd rather keep Jeffries.

We should be looking at undrafted players and NBDL guys to call up though there is a better chance we find a contributor there than either of these two.

 

[Sinobas]

I wouldn't because Jefferies is more versatile. I believe Freeland is a better player than he's shown so far, and can find his groove as a backup PF.

 

[Rhal]

Only way i'd want Pendergraph back was if we had an open roster spot. Much like Patty Mills was he seems like a great locker room guy.

 

[SheedSoNasty]

But Patty can actually produce as an NBA player. I'd gladly take him back.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Lateral move. Jeffries is developing chemistry with the guys. Keep him.

This.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

But Patty can actually produce as an NBA player. I'd gladly take him back.

I think he's better than our current backup PG's.

 

[Rhal]

But Patty can actually produce as an NBA player. I'd gladly take him back.

Yea but he didn't really for us because of Nate. So I was using him in the context we used him in, not the fact he switched coaches and now is decent.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Pendergraph has never proved he's an NBA player. Jeffries has had a long NBA career precisely because he's a great role player. I'm not even sure that Pendergraph knows how to play basketball. So no, that would be dumb.

 

[Natebishop3]

Pendergraph is another one of those crappy role players that Blazer fans have some strange connection to.... He's not good.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

1-ish PPG 1-ish RPG (career averages) for Pendergraph. I'd rather not go down that road again.

 

[BlazerWookee]

I would take Pendergraph back for Jeffries. Yes Jeffries did do two defensive stops vs Chicago but he has no offensive punch. What's your guy's take?

I would love to have Pendy on this team instead of Jeffries. But I don't think that trade makes us much (if any) better, and certainly wouldn't make enough of a difference to push us into the playoffs if we were anywhere close...

 

[magnifier661]

I would do this!

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bb4elyv

 

[Pinwheel1]

I would do this!

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bb4elyv

10 years. That is the difference between Leonard and Varejao. And Varejao is an old 30 as he has played for their National team since at least 2003. That is a big gamble when the team is so young.

 

[magnifier661]

10 years. That is the difference between Leonard and Varejao. And Varejao is an old 30 as he has played for their National team since at least 2003. That is a big gamble when the team is so young.

That's why I think Cleveland may jump on it. Varejao is the perfect center for us though. He is a hustler and very good with position D and rebounding.

 

[BrianFromWA]

1-ish PPG 1-ish RPG (career averages) for Pendergraph. I'd rather not go down that road again.

and 23 of his career points came in that garbage year-end game against GSW where he cherry picked a few dunks against a team that didn't care.

 

[Boob-No-More]

That's why I think Cleveland may jump on it. Varejao is the perfect center for us though. He is a hustler and very good with position D and rebounding.

He makes us better now, but giving up Leonard so soon could potentially hurt us in the long run. It will also reduce our cap space next summer by over $3 million. We go from having ~$13 million to offer to about $10 million.

How much longer can Varejao hold up banging down low for 36 MPG? I expect this year will be a career year for him. He's getting big minutes on a crappy team. The rebounding and defense would be nice, but he'd score a lot less in Portland, and I think Myers Leonard has the potential to be a good rebounder and defender and definitely has more offensive potential than Varejao. Plus, he's only 20. He'll be around LONG after Varegao is retired.

We're not going deep in the playoffs this year, may not even make the playoffs. Varejao may increase our chances of making the playoffs this year, but I'm not ready to mortgage the future for a couple one and done playoff appearances. By the time the rest of our core are in their primes, Varejao will be past his.

Stay the course. Let it bake!

BNM

 

[magnifier661]

He makes us better now, but giving up Leonard so soon could potentially hurt us in the long run. It will also reduce our cap space next summer by over $3 million. We go from having ~$13 million to offer to about $10 million.

How much longer can Varejao hold up banging down low for 36 MPG? I expect this year will be a career year for him. He's getting big minutes on a crappy team. The rebounding and defense would be nice, but he'd score a lot less in Portland, and I think Myers Leonard has the potential to be a good rebounder and defender and definitely has more offensive potential than Varejao. Plus, he's only 20. He'll be around LONG after Varegao is retired.

We're not going deep in the playoffs this year, may not even make the playoffs. Varejao may increase our chances of making the playoffs this year, but I'm not ready to mortgage the future for a couple one and done playoff appearances. By the time the rest of our core are in their primes, Varejao will be past his.

Stay the course. Let it bake!

BNM

You make a really good point. I just think our starting 5 just needs that defensive player like Varejao and it would be set. He may not have too many years left; but we would have a legit back-up PF/C in Hickson that could help the second unit. Varejao doesn't need to score to be effective; which our starting 5 already has all the scoring we need.

I think there needs to be some decisions to bring some older players in. If we could just land a decent SG/SF combo this summer; I think we would have the perfect 8 man rotation of Lillard, Matthews, Batum, Aldridge, Varejao, Hickson, SG/SF veteran, and E will.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

We have far too many projects as is. JJ is one of the few making a contribution off the bench.

Pass.

 

[Boob-No-More]

You make a really good point. I just think our starting 5 just needs that defensive player like Varejao and it would be set.

I am hoping Meyers Leonard can become that kind of player. He has all the physical tools and is a hard worker and so very young. I think he has a good chance to get there - and when he does he's still only be 23 or 24. And, I think he has the potential to be better than Varejao. Even if he's not, even if he can just develop into a younger version of Varejao, I'll take the younger version over the one that's already in his 30s.

He may not have too many years left; but we would have a legit back-up PF/C in Hickson that could help the second unit.

It's the "not too many years left" part that makes me dislike this trade. By the time Lillard and Batum are entering their primes, Varejao will be past his, if he's even still playing. Which is why I prefer to stick with Leonard, develop him and have him enter his prime at the same time as our other young players. If we were in "win now" mode, this trade would make sense. We're not in "win now" mode.

BNM

 

[BlazerWookee]

I would do this!

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bb4elyv

Blech. I'd rather roll the dice on Meyers.