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Why is there a frog standing directly behind Trump?
That’s Pepe. He’s a symbol associated with white supremacy.
Wait. Really? White supremacy?
That’s right.
Please explain.
Here’s the short version: Pepe is a cartoon frog who began his internet life as an innocent meme enjoyed by teenagers and pop stars alike.
But in recent months, Pepe’s been almost entirely co-opted by the white supremacists who call themselves the “alt-right.” They’ve decided to take back Pepe by adding swastikas and other symbols of anti-semitism and white supremacy.
“We basically mixed Pepe in with Nazi propaganda, etc. We built that association,” one prominentwhite supremacist told the Daily Beast.
Trump has retweeted his white supremacist supporters with regularity, but the connection between the alt-right and his campaign continues to strengthen. Trump has been slow to disavow support from Ku Klux Klansmen and white supremacy groups, and he recently hired Breitbart.com’s Steve Bannon as his campaign CEO (and Bannon isn’t shy about the fact that his “news” organization is the “platform for the alt-right”).
Now white supremacists have given Pepe the cartoon frog some Trump hair—and the candidate’s own son says he is “honored to be grouped with” him.
Serwer: How do you feel about the way it’s been adopted by the so-called alt-right?
Furie: My feelings are pretty neutral, this isn’t the first time that Pepe has been used in a negative, weird context. I think it’s just a reflection of the world at large. The internet is basically encompassing some kind of mass consciousness, and Pepe, with his face, he’s got these large, expressive eyes with puffy eyelids and big rounded lips, I just think that people reinvent him in all these different ways, it’s kind of a blank slate. It’s just out of my control, what people are doing with it, and my thoughts on it, are more of amusement.
Serwer: So it doesn’t make you uneasy at all that for some people it’s become this weird Nazi thing?
Furie: I think that’s it’s just a phase, and come November, it’s just gonna go on to the next phase, obviously that political agenda is exactly the opposite of my own personal feelings, but in terms of meme culture, it’s people reapproppriating things for their own agenda. That’s just a product of the internet. And I think people in whatever dark corners of the internet are just trying to one up each other on how shocking they can make Pepe appear.
The interesting thing about this situation, is that I’m talking to you, and it’s like a newsworthy thing that this cute, generally happy frog character has taken on a life of its own for better or worse. I think what is happening now is overshadowing the importance Pepe has as a symbol for youth culture, and it’s been taken out of context and turned into something other than that. I honestly just think it’s a phase.
When not many are for you, try to make your opponent look like a worse choice.
Uhm... isn't that the entirety of your Johnson's campaign? "I'm not those other two losers".
brfo
Perfect liberal website. I clicked the link and got a popup that said "Donald Trump is temper mentally unfit to be President"
The only answer you could choose is I Agree.
Otherwise you have to click the x in the corner. I'm sure they'll quote this poll in the future. 100 percent of respondents agree.
Uhm... isn't that the entirety of your Johnson's campaign? "I'm not those other two losers".
barfo
nah...his main point is govt will stay out of your life choices and luxury tax will replace income taxes...his plan is to replenish the middle class so more people can actually buy things for a change or save money for a changeUhm... isn't that the entirety of your Johnson's campaign? "I'm not those other two losers".
barfo
That's actually a powerful platform in this electionUhm... isn't that the entirety of your Johnson's campaign? "I'm not those other two losers".
barfo
Nope, even porn websites give choices. They know what you'll pick but you can still choose.First time on the internet? Welcome!
barfo
nah...his main point is govt will stay out of your life choices and luxury tax will replace income taxes...his plan is to replenish the middle class so more people can actually buy things for a change or save money for a change
nah...his main point is govt will stay out of your life choices and luxury tax will replace income taxes...his plan is to replenish the middle class so more people can actually buy things for a change or save money for a change
His economic plan is pretty much the same as any of the more extreme republicans - gut government services, let corporations do whatever they please, a free market cures all ills, every man for himself.
If that sort of world appeals to you, then vote Gary.
barfo
If you think corporations are a problem, they're a product of government. The 1933 securities act. And then the decades of regulations piled upon regulations. They're a product of government, not free markets.
Right... because before 1933, companies all acted in the best interests of the population. Have you gotten into Gary's stash this morning?
barfo
I don't see it that way...his plan reminds me of Taiwan...an economic miracle of an island....cash flows because taxes are low and govt agencies stay out of your life....yet they have national health insurance funded by ........shopping! You spend money, a portion goes to health insurance. There is a small fee....about 20 dollars a month for a family. The nightmarket is allowed to exist without police harassment so money flows daily and even people without wealth have expendable income. Most services are paid for with cash....they don't trust banks that much or lawyers. If you buy a part for say a computer...you don't go fill out a form for a refund...you toss it to the clerk and they just tell you to go get another one....try exchanging an adapter at Frye's electronics sometime...you have to talk to 3 people and fill out a form to get your new 75 cent part....let's complicate business and government! NOTHis economic plan is pretty much the same as any of the more extreme republicans - gut government services, let corporations do whatever they please, a free market cures all ills, every man for himself.
If that sort of world appeals to you, then vote Gary.
barfo
I don't see it that way...his plan reminds me of Taiwan...an economic miracle of an island....cash flows because taxes are low and govt agencies stay out of your life....yet they have national health insurance funded by ........shopping! You spend money, a portion goes to health insurance. There is a small fee....about 20 dollars a month for a family. The nightmarket is allowed to exist without police harassment so money flows daily and even people without wealth have expendable income. Most services are paid for with cash....they don't trust banks that much or lawyers. If you buy a part for say a computer...you don't go fill out a form for a refund...you toss it to the clerk and they just tell you to go get another one....try exchanging an adapter at Frye's electronics sometime...you have to talk to 3 people and fill out a form to get your new 75 cent part....let's complicate business and government! NOT
They've improved the infrastructure and environment a lot and built high speed electric rails which we sure don't have here. They have problems but not health insurance, unemployment or education problems...point is...the govt stays away from your money for the most part ..we could do worse here than adapt some of their practices.Taiwan also has serious pollution issues as a result of prioritizing growth over everything else. I do like the nightmarkets, but I don't want to emulate Taiwan. Taiwan's economic miracle happened in good part because a lot of the wealth and knowledge migrated there from China when the government fell. We don't have a similar situation. And if I'm not mistaken, Taiwan's economy isn't nearly as robust as it used to be. I'm not sure what government regulation has to do with returning a part at Frye's. They make it hard so that you'll give up and just buy a new one instead. Get rid of regulation and you'll have more businesses screwing customers, not less. It's the American way. Maybe a cultural difference owing to the size of the country?
barfo
They've improved the infrastructure and environment a lot and built high speed electric rails which we sure don't have here.
They have problems but not health insurance, unemployment or education problems...point is...the govt stays away from your money for the most part ..we could do worse here than adapt some of their practices.
It's all changing barfo...my nephews and nieces over there are not like the students I taught in the 80s in Taipei...they've traveled, had internet for a long time..not as naïve as when the Kuomingtang had Marshall law and outlawed dance clubs...Right, I've been on the HSR, it's very nice - is Gary going to build high-speed rail? Not bloody likely. Does cutting taxes = infrastructure improvements? I don't see it.
Some, yes. Keeping taxis clean like they do would be a good start. But I don't think there is a gov. regulation here that says taxis have to look like ashtrays.
I think they do have some education issues. At least last I knew, their system was very focused on memorization and not on thinking. Maybe that's changed.
The question is which ones. I think the ones Gary wants to adopt are the bad ones.
barfo
I doubt if Gary knows how to build a high speed rail...he rides a bicycle..the French built the systems in Taiwan...we don't get those contracts anymoreRight, I've been on the HSR, it's very nice - is Gary going to build high-speed rail? Not bloody likely. Does cutting taxes = infrastructure improvements? I don't see it.
Some, yes. Keeping taxis clean like they do would be a good start. But I don't think there is a gov. regulation here that says taxis have to look like ashtrays.
I think they do have some education issues. At least last I knew, their system was very focused on memorization and not on thinking. Maybe that's changed.
The question is which ones. I think the ones Gary wants to adopt are the bad ones.
barfo
