Perhaps a bit more hope for ROY's knees?

[Blazinaway]

I've been doing some research on this new PRP treatment.


that treatment was enriched blood platelets (one's own) Brandon had injected in both knees when he had his recent "clean up". It's an interesting new field and their is great hope for the relief of osteoarthritis and it's fast healing properties, especially in areas where blood flow is limited.

There have been some very good results in "average" folks as far as lessening of pain and resuming normal activities compared to being severely limited before that. Some seem to respond very well and others not much - so that might be problematic.

I'm thinking if Roy responds well he could return and actually play well and in much less pain - the key will be for how long? a few games? weeks? months?

Now if he responds well this could be something done for the rest of his career. Note that there are NO side effects that have been seen so far in this therapy as it's your own blood that has simply been "spun" and enriched.

I am a "bit" more hopeful for a at least a perhaps somewhat effective return then I have been before - if he does return how well this treatment and hence his knees hold up to the rigors of pro basketball is the huge question.

 

[MIXUM]

real slow news day

 

[Blazinaway]

real slow news day

no, you are just *Edited*

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I read that this surgery thus far is pretty much without success for professional athletes and the rigors they go thru. However, there's certainly no harm in trying because as it is his career is in serious jeopardy.

 

[Blazinaway]

I read that this surgery thus far is pretty much without success for professional athletes and the rigors they go thru. However, there's certainly no harm in trying because as it is his career is in serious jeopardy.

The "surgery", which was just a clean up offers little or no hope, it's the healing properties of articular cartilage via PRP treatment that does offer some hope. I have spent hours researching this as i am considering it for my right knee which I have had two surgeries on and am developing osteoarthritis.

 

[Dirty_F_Baby]

this is prob a dumb question, but is knee replacement possible with athletes?

ive only heard of it for old people, so im guessing no, but i figured someone here would know for sure.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

this is prob a dumb question, but is knee replacement possible with athletes?

ive only heard of it for old people, so im guessing no, but i figured someone here would know for sure.

Bo Jackson played 1yr of MLB on an artificial hip 20yrs ago so it might be possible but not very likely.

 

[Blazinaway]

this is prob a dumb question, but is knee replacement possible with athletes?

ive only heard of it for old people, so im guessing no, but i figured someone here would know for sure.

not to be able to perform anywhere near a pro Bball level. A buddy of mine at 60 is a top 10 nationally ranked senior tennis player in his age group. So you can perform well but not a professional basketball level.

 

[Dirty_F_Baby]

So you can perform well but not a professional basketball level.

damn. thats what i figured. can we get someone to donate their healthy knees in a knee transplant experiment?

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I was thinking if Roy is going to stick around and play in 15-20 games per year, why not make him a player/coach. Maybe redo his contract and put $10mil or so towards him the player and $5mil or so towards coaching. We'd save a bit off the CAP.

 

[Nikolokolus]

One catch. PRP doesn't regenerate the meniscus. Short of a transplant (which was apparently ruled out in Brandon's case) there is no cure for what ails him. So maybe this will buy him some time, but this a band-aid.

 

[Ed O]

I was thinking if Roy is going to stick around and play in 15-20 games per year, why not make him a player/coach. Maybe redo his contract and put $10mil or so towards him the player and $5mil or so towards coaching. We'd save a bit off the CAP.

All money a player earns as a player/coach goes against the CBA, I believe.

Kurt Thomas was named as an assistant coach in 1996 after getting hurt, but I don't think the Mavs got any relief from it... and Thomas went to the Knicks the next year as a free agent.

Ed O.

 

[Blazinaway]

One catch. PRP doesn't regenerate the meniscus. Short of a transplant (which was apparently ruled out in Brandon's case) there is no cure for what ails him. So maybe this will buy him some time, but this a band-aid.

no catch, it does not regenerate meniscus. But it is possible it can help heal/repair articular cartilage if damage is not to extensive, Maybe, just maybem that could give Brandon another season or two at a fairly high level IF we manage his time better. Pure speculation om my part, but he has played without much of his meniscus in one or both knees for at least a few years now.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

All money a player earns as a player/coach goes against the CBA, I believe.

Kurt Thomas was named as an assistant coach in 1996 after getting hurt, but I don't think the Mavs got any relief from it... and Thomas went to the Knicks the next year as a free agent.

Ed O.

Really? Well, there's goes my plan all the way to hell.

I dunno, Ed, I think under the new CBA we're going to have a true hard cap and his salary is going to be a millstone around our necks.

 

[BBert]

I was thinking if Roy is going to stick around and play in 15-20 games per year, why not make him a player/coach. Maybe redo his contract and put $10mil or so towards him the player and $5mil or so towards coaching. We'd save a bit off the CAP.

Why do you think Brandon Roy can coach?

 

[jlprk]

I thought I read that the CBA hasn't allowed player/coaches for about 15 years. I wish it did, though.

 

[STOMP]

there are two Blazer fans in my immediate family who happen to be MD's. Though neither are knee specialists, both hold the same opinion on Brandon... that short of divine intervention/a miracle, he's done

I guess we will see what happens, but I haven't seen much evidence that God is a big Blazer homer

STOMP

 

[Nikolokolus]

no catch, it does not regenerate meniscus. But it is possible it can help heal/repair articular cartilage if damage is not to extensive, Maybe, just maybem that could give Brandon another season or two at a fairly high level IF we manage his time better. Pure speculation om my part, but he has played without much of his meniscus in one or both knees for at least a few years now.

I guess we'll see what happens. But you'll have to pardon me if I don't share your enthusiasm and sense of hopefulness.

 

[THE HCP]

there are two Blazer fans in my immediate family who happen to be MD's. Though neither are knee specialists, both hold the same opinion on Brandon... that short of divine intervention/a miracle, he's done


STOMP

My dad mows lawns for a living and he said BRoy will be back to 100% by March!!

 

[Weav]

there are two Blazer fans in my immediate family who happen to be MD's. Though neither are knee specialists, both hold the same opinion on Brandon... that short of divine intervention/a miracle, he's done

This is assuming everything we've heard is true. I just don't believe it. I think Jaynes, as much as I hate to admit it, might be right; Brandon does have knee issues, but a lot of it is mental. I think he doesn't like Dre and doesn't like playing with Dre. The kness probably suck, but I don't think that is 100% of the issue. After all, remember all the reports out of training camp were how good he was looking?

If I had to guess, but bet as soon as Miller is gone, we get a 90% Brandon back. Admittingly with a slightly modified game. But of course, like all of you arm-chair Jay Jensons, I am simply spectulating off of what I've read. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if a lot of this knee talk isn't true.

 

[BBert]

If I had to guess, but bet as soon as Miller is gone, we get a 90% Brandon back.

That would be a sad, and damning, indictment of Brandon. Sadly, I'm half expecting it to be true.

 

[Kaydow]

This is assuming everything we've heard is true. I just don't believe it. I think Jaynes, as much as I hate to admit it, might be right; Brandon does have knee issues, but a lot of it is mental. I think he doesn't like Dre and doesn't like playing with Dre. The kness probably suck, but I don't think that is 100% of the issue. After all, remember all the reports out of training camp were how good he was looking?

If I had to guess, but bet as soon as Miller is gone, we get a 90% Brandon back. Admittingly with a slightly modified game. But of course, like all of you arm-chair Jay Jensons, I am simply spectulating off of what I've read. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if a lot of this knee talk isn't true.

That's quite a theory. Did you watch Brandon play in his last few games? He couldn't even run after loose balls. He was in obvious pain. I don't disagree that Brandon doesn't like playing with Dre, but not enough to sit out and go through surgery if he was "90%".

What is more likely is that Brandon was having a hard time coming to grips with the fact that his body was failing him, and it was easier for him to point the finger at Andre than check in with reality. "If the paint wasn't clogged", "If we had a PG that could shoot" was him displacing his frustration. He even said so. Take a situation he's not happy with (playing with Dre) and throw the "oh-by-the-way you're athletic ability is shot and there's no way to fix it" on top of it . . . Can you imagine the frustration he's been through? 3 Time All Star who desperately wants to win a championship in first year of $80+ million contract and it's been all bad since the season started pretty much. He blamed the heavy early season schedule. He pretty much blamed the coaching staff by saying the offense was too predictable. He pointed the finger at the watered down bench we have now. And he blamed the PG he's always hated playing with.

 

[Weav]

That's quite a theory. Did you watch Brandon play in his last few games? He couldn't even run after loose balls. He was in obvious pain. I don't disagree that Brandon doesn't like playing with Dre, but not enough to sit out and go through surgery if he was "90%".

I don't disagree entirely, but that could be effort over ability. Yes, I think he has to adjust to the knees, but I saw hope. I saw decent drives that reminded me of Brandon, but without the hops to finish. I forget which game but he drove, split defenders and went for the lay up only to watch it hit under the rim. He had the veteran savvy and knowedge to get past the defender, just not the jumping ability to finish. He can, and will, work on that. I think when Dre is gone we'll see amore motivated Brandon. I am no doctor and unlike Mixum I refuse to act like I know everything. His knees might be just as shot as some people say. I'm just not convinced...not yet. I do not expect Brandon to be a perrenial all-star, but it wouldn't surprise me to see if once or twice more over the remainder of his career.

Unfortunately, I think the offense will go back to suffering when he returns. That only hope is if 90% Brandon will accept a bench role. Let the first team run. Let Brandon lead the second team. Brandon can get his 30 minutes a night running the second unit, scoring 17 points and being our co-closer with LMA in the fourth. Please Roy, come back to at least 90% and acceot this role. If it happens, I think we're back to 50+ win seasons.

 

[Kaydow]

I don't disagree entirely, but that could be effort over ability. Yes, I think he has to adjust to the knees, but I saw hope. I saw decent drives that reminded me of Brandon, but without the hops to finish. I forget which game but he drove, split defenders and went for the lay up only to watch it hit under the rim. He had the veteran savvy and knowedge to get past the defender, just not the jumping ability to finish. He can, and will, work on that. I think when Dre is gone we'll see amore motivated Brandon. I am no doctor and unlike Mixum I refuse to act like I know everything. His knees might be just as shot as some people say. I'm just not convinced...not yet. I do not expect Brandon to be a perrenial all-star, but it wouldn't surprise me to see if once or twice more over the remainder of his career.

Unfortunately, I think the offense will go back to suffering when he returns. That only hope is if 90% Brandon will accept a bench role. Let the first team run. Let Brandon lead the second team. Brandon can get his 30 minutes a night running the second unit, scoring 17 points and being our co-closer with LMA in the fourth. Please Roy, come back to at least 90% and acceot this role. If it happens, I think we're back to 50+ win seasons.

Well I hope you're right. It's not pleasant to think that Brandon's attitude is what is keeping him sidelined, but it's much easier to deal with than believing he's no longer physically able to perform. One of those you can change, the other you can't.

 

[STOMP]

My dad mows lawns for a living and he said BRoy will be back to 100% by March!!

here's hoping your dad is right... I'm sure my dad and sister hope so as well. I only passed along my 2 cents of insight that I thought was relevant to the situation. Of course any real Blazer fan would hope that BR could be Macgyver'd back together again... break out the duct tape and dental floss and I'll see you at the championship parade

STOMP

 

[Blazinaway]

Looks like this thread was timely and PRP is working very well for Brandon!

 

[MIXUM]

can he play 10 games first?

 

[Blazinaway]

can he play 10 games first?

master of the obvious you are, the acid test of course will be how he does over a period of games. The speed of his recovery IMO is a good indication he responded well to the PRP - some don't.