Perhaps Nash is the guy they should deal

[dumpstralmannow]

Looks like Pacioretty and E. Kane are 2 guys their teams are sick off. Maybe swap one dope for another. Can't believe I'm saying this. The tool waiting his entire career to go to a team with a better supporting cast. He gets there, takes a couple of hits and is now playing like a scared bitch.

 

[Disturbed]

I cant believe how he is playing like he is a 20 goal 50 pt guy now. Amazing. Pretty much like every Ranger when they come to NY.

This is a killer. They gave up a ton to get him and his cap hit is almost $8m

Nash and Richards have $14M cap hits between them and are 20 goal/50 point guys right now. You cant win with production like that.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

It's all because we all sold our souls in 1994. Now we have to pay for it the next 50 years. LOL!

I'm a big Pacioretty fan. He plays a simple, physical game and scores lots of goals. Seems like a good fit for Stepan.

 

[Disturbed]

Sorry to be so negative put you know Pacioretty would sukkkk here too. It's just the way it is. I cant think of an established player in the last 10 years that has come here and been BETTER here then previously. Maybe they are jinxed.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

Can't think like that. I believe they have to get more players that score goals by doing the simple things. Like hitting to make a play. Tipping in pucks in front. Scoring garbage goals. Nash is pretty much my last time around being fooled by the flash offensive player. Rangers should go the way of the Bruins now. Tough players. Players that score tough goals. Win faceoffs. Hit to make plays.

 

[Disturbed]

I think with Nash its the head injuries. He just looks like a different player. To be honest, he is playing this year like he played in the playoffs which is not good. Thank Lucic and Stuart.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

Agree, he's playing like a pussie. Why even play. He needs to play his game. If he gets hurt, that's the way it goes.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

Sorry but after seeing what a concussion can do to a person, I'm not calling anyone a pussy. my 10 year old football team had one kid on a seemingly routine hit took 6 weeks to be able to walk a half mile before become sick. The poor kid went from an exceptional reader. reading above grade level (5 grader) to not being able to comprehend 1st grade readings. The guy is putting his life and future on the line every shift. And why? He would get his money either way...

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[dumpstralmannow]

I repeat. Pussie. He's not a 10 year old kid. He's an adult getting paid over 6 million dollars a year to play hard. Not play scared. I don't think he would get his money if he retired.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

Let me ask the board this question. Would you do this.

Nash
Pyatt

for

Clarkson
Fransen
Toronto's 1st 2014

I'd think I'd do that and I think Toronto would also. At least I know Clarkson would play hard, stick up for his team and stand in front of the stinking net.

 

[chuckd3534]

Maybe I would. Clarkson is interesting because he only scores against us really. The Clarkson we see almost every time we play him is an all-star. The Clarkson everyone else sees is a 3rd liner at best. Funny really.

I would guess the Leafs would do that, but who knows. Good for discussion in here, but no way it happens. I honestly don't see anyway we deal Nash to be honest.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

Probably not but I'm not against it based off of what I'm seeing from him since his second concussion.

 

[chuckd3534]

I agree. But I think they'll wait (and hope) for him to get his game back as he gets more comfortable. We'll know he is there when he bulls his way to the net rather than spinning. We'll see when/if it happens.

 

[NYR1962]

How about Nash for Dubi and Artie, or Nash for dubi straight up. LOL.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

"Dagoon44 Told Rangers working the phones and something is up besides MDZ.. might be a shock.. looking for D and top 6"

This guy is about the only guy on HF I take seriously. He seems to have a legit connection because he's gotten things right before.

 

[Stepupstepan]

if toronto adds a guy like raymond or van Riemsdyk in that deal, I would do it.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

LOL. There is no chance they are trading JVR.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

Whatever deal they make they need more goal scoring

 

[chuckd3534]

And they need to be sure it is not a quick fix deal for just this season. Next season should also be VERY much in focus.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

Why do I see him doing something like Wilson, R. Ellis from the Preds for Brassard, MDZ and Boyle. Something out of nowhere where he tries another project like Wilson.

 

[theProdigy223]

Maybe a deal with the Avs for O'Reilly is in play. Avs have been a rumored partner for awhile now. Brassard/MDZ/Boyle/pick package going there for O'Reilly and D?

 

[chuckd3534]

I think we'll see a deal soon. I bet within 2 weeks. Too much smoke and talk. Something will pop as we continue to struggle, and Staal comes back which frees up a dman.

 

[Messiah717]

Like trying to fix dam cracks with bubble gum.

 

[mrmel29]

Maybe a deal with the Avs for O'Reilly is in play. Avs have been a rumored partner for awhile now. Brassard/MDZ/Boyle/pick package going there for O'Reilly and D?

That one I'd like. I'm also in the trade nash now camp before he regresses any further. Get what you can in assets and get rid of his salary. Would much rather see kreider 4 on 4 than him anyway. Al, your right that a concussion is nothing to play with or joke about. But at the same time he owes it to the team who he is strapping salary cap wise that if he can't play hard because he's afraid he won't remember his name when he's forty he needs to quit. I'm sure his contract is insured and he'll get his money that way but doing the team absolutely no good playing scared like he is

 

[theProdigy223]

I don't see Nash getting dealt at all right now. I think Sather brings in top 6 help for him rather than just shipping him out. I have faith he'll come back around.

I think O'Reilly makes sense because he's a natural C but he's playing real well at LW this year. He can finish out this year as a wing then slide over to C next season when Richards is bought out. Then we wouldnt have to get into a bidding war for a number 1 C like Stasny in the offseason and can put money into other areas. What do you say Glen?

 

[Stepupstepan]

LOL. There is no chance they are trading JVR.

Toronto GM loves Nash. They tried to get him before. JVR is slightly better version of Anisimov so I don't think he is untouchable over there.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

I've wanted O'Reilly here for a while. However, MDZ won't get it done. They will ask for pieces like Kreider, Miller and Hagelin. I assume they would want MDZ and Hagelin for O'Reilly. As much as I would like to keep Hagelin, I'd have to do that. I honestly would love O'Reilly, Stepan and Miller down the middle going forward. I think they could then dump Girardi, Brassard and Boyle for help on the wings.

 

[chuckd3534]

We are not trading Nash. My lord we are fickle in here. Yes he has struggled, but we are not dealing him. We need to hope he comes around, and I think he will at some point. He is much better than this.

As for the Avs, I would think better shot they deal O'Reilly if Stastny wasn't a FA this summer. I doubt they want to lose both of those guys. Not saying it can't happen, but it will take a very good offer for them to deal him IMO.

 

[chuckd3534]

I've wanted O'Reilly here for a while. However, MDZ won't get it done. They will ask for pieces like Kreider, Miller and Hagelin. I assume they would want MDZ and Hagelin for O'Reilly. As much as I would like to keep Hagelin, I'd have to do that. I honestly would love O'Reilly, Stepan and Miller down the middle going forward. I think they could then dump Girardi, Brassard and Boyle for help on the wings.

Agreed. It will take a very good offer to get O'Reilly IMO.

 

[theProdigy223]

And here's Eklund's take from yesterday (take it for what it's worth): "...with the freeze coming to a close, the rumors of Max Pacioretty possibly being moved to the Rangers for Del Zotto are persistent"