Plausible CJ trades that don't involve the Sixers?

[B-Roy]

Pacers are blazers East. Lots of good players but just past their expiration date as a team. Even share the same front office execs. Pacers not lucky enough to have been gifted a superstar 8 years ago though.

 

[Freshtown]

Given that Nurk and Roco are expiring, I wonder what we could get by attaching Little or Simons and picks to them.

 

[GDiama]

That sounds like picks and or young players. Problem with any of those guys is you need to send salary along with. Indiana is not going to value our guys with big salaries so that means trading multiple rotation players or young guys for players that may not even be upgrades.

At least Nurk and RoCo are expirings so it's a way to free up salary for the Pacers. Of course we should also include picks and Ant or Little for those guys.

 

[illmatic99]

who says no? and we duck the tax. maybe need to add some pick swaps and ant/little to philly.

 

[Freshtown]

who says no? and we duck the tax. maybe need to add some pick swaps and ant/little to philly.

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if Indy wants to rebuild then I don’t think they’d want CJ.

 

[illmatic99]

if Indy wants to rebuild then I don’t think they’d want CJ.

As someone who watched that team up close and personal for nine years, I can tell you the pacers have always resisted complete teardowns. Fan interest wanes in Indy for the Pacers as is, and their ownership has always tried to maintain a playoff product even when the obvious move was to rebuild. I don't think they simply give away talent for picks, especially when the broke bank this summer in getting Carlisle.

edit, OK, i just read the actual article: I stand corrected.

In the past, team president Kevin Pritchard has tried to convince owner Herb Simon a rebuild is necessary, including in 2017, but Simon demurred. Instead, the Pacers signed Darren Collison, Bojan Bogdanovic and made a trade for veteran Cory Joseph.

Simon, the longest-tenured owner in the league, has always demanded the Pacers put the best possible product on the floor, even if that means being a seventh or eighth seed and losing in the first round of the playoffs. The concern is, a protracted rebuild will mean an even greater decline in attendance. But look at their attendance now, which stands dead last in the league at 13,135 and 29th in terms of percentage of capacity. So the question is: How much worse can it get?

Now, according to sources, Simon, who is 87 years old, has gotten onboard with the idea of a rebuild.

 

[illmatic99]

here's your teardown.

 

[tester551]

I think if we are committed to making the team better and not rebuild then we should check with the Pacers

Would love to get Warren & Turner.

 

[wizenheimer]

That sounds like picks and or young players. Problem with any of those guys is you need to send salary along with. Indiana is not going to value our guys with big salaries so that means trading multiple rotation players or young guys for players that may not even be upgrades.

I have a hard time finding any matches between what Indy would want in a rebuild and what Portland has

I'd love for the Blazers to be able to land Myles Turner though.

 

[Scalma]

hoopshype mentions a possible three way scenario where Portland ends up with Jerami Grant

 

[B-Roy]

At least Nurk and RoCo are expirings so it's a way to free up salary for the Pacers. Of course we should also include picks and Ant or Little for those guys.

Yes that was my point. Call me crazy, but I don't think trading any combination of Nurk with Simons/Little for any of Indy's players is really much of an upgrade. Is Nurk + Little/Simons (plus some additional draft capital probably) > Turner or Sabonis? None of those guys are good enough to change the direction of our team, even if they are theoretically better. RoCo is a different story, but hard to construct a deal around Sabonis or Turner if you're keeping Nurkic.

LeVert sucks. If you thought CJ dribbled the air out of the ball and took poor shots....

 

[B-Roy]

I have a hard time finding any matches between what Indy would want in a rebuild and what Portland has

I'd love for the Blazers to be able to land Myles Turner though.

Turner is an ideal fit, but unless we also trade CJ for Ben Simmons or something I don't think it makes us much better than where we are at.

 

[Ifrclone]

Send picks to Pacers along with Nurk and Roco's expiring contracts. Philly gets a hell of a return for Simmons, plus with Sabonis they can afford to look to trade Harris for a a couple of cheaper contracts to solidify the bench. We get immediately better defensively with Dame, Powell, Little, Simmons, Turner starting lineup.

 

[B-Roy]

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Send picks to Pacers along with Nurk and Roco's expiring contracts. Philly gets a hell of a return for Simmons, plus with Sabonis they can afford to look to trade Harris for a a couple of cheaper contracts to solidify the bench. We get immediately better defensively with Dame, Powell, Little, Simmons, Turner starting lineup.

That is awful for Indiana unless they're getting 4 unprotected firsts from us or something.

 

[Ifrclone]

That is awful for Indiana unless they're getting 4 unprotected firsts from us or something.

Yeah, def load as many picks as they ask. Woj is suggesting they are going full rebuild, so expiring contracts and picks is all they will want.

 

[Cugel]

Give the pacers expiring contracts and young talent but don’t expect much in return

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

That sounds like picks and or young players. Problem with any of those guys is you need to send salary along with. Indiana is not going to value our guys with big salaries so that means trading multiple rotation players or young guys for players that may not even be upgrades.

We can send them expirings: Nurk and Roco plus Simons, Little and Brown (or substitute draft picks, their preference) for Sabonis, Warren (expiring and also not quite back yet from injury) and Bitadze (to defend against bigs). Then we still have CJ to trade for Simmons or somebody.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

here's your teardown.

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Very ingenious. I think these are the two clubs we should be working with, NY and Indy.

 

[dviss1]

CJ to Philly, Siakim to Portland, Simmons to Toronto.

Tho hollinger says it gives them 2 fewer wins. So, clearly that's a no go when St John says that.

FTFY

 

[julius]

FTFY

Probably more likely to happen(tho I suspect nothing will be done at all)

 

[riverman]

I was listening to some hoops chatter online and a Bulls fan was talking up a trade for McCollum...apparently they have a glut of wings on the roster

 

[B-Roy]

 

[blazedanugz]

Imean….he’s the president of the PA..but the mascot is interesting lol

 

[Scalma]

I still like Toronto/Siakam. They’ve got a surplus in the front court. We’ve got a surplus in the backcourt. They’re backcourt is thin, all they’ve got is FVV and Trent. They don’t shoot well from the perimeter/deep and aren’t a very good offensive team in general (23rd in PPG)

mccollum and a first would be my offer

 

[illmatic99]

think this is a talent neutral but better fit and we get taller

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Sabonis > Turner

 

[illmatic99]

Sabonis > Turner

not if we're getting rid of nurk. turner is who we hoped zach could be.

 

[B-Roy]

No picks either way. Ibaka is bought out after. The prize here is Terrance Mann on a bargain deal. 1.7M the next year and 11 each for the next 2 following. Athletic wing that fits how Chauncey wants to play. Kennard can be used down the line in other deals as he's a significant salary.

 

[PDXFonz]

Looking around the league, there’s a lot of solid SG’s. Recent drafts have provided SG depth.

I really wonder what CJ’s trade interest actually would be from other teams on $30M

CJ for Love perhaps makes some sense; but Loves guaranteed through 23 while CJ is through 24 which is probably a negative from the Cavs perspective.

 

[PDXFonz]

If New York is a big fan of CJ, this seems at least plausible. Perhaps Siakam's value has dropped a bit with his three-point shooting percentage.

If NY is a fan of CJ I want Julius Randle