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I'd do it for Rui, a 1st and both their 25 2nds. Reddish would be immediately cut. Not sure if we could flip Vincent or Rui elsewhere.
 
BigGameDamian said:
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This needs more attention. Zach doesn't just throw away comments like that on his podcast. This seems like a badly kept secret that Grant ends up in LA.

I wonder if we're waiting for some deadline to pass.

How soon can Dalton be traded after singing his deal?
 
illmatic99 said:
This needs more attention. Zach doesn't just throw away comments like that on his podcast. This seems like a badly kept secret that Grant ends up in LA.

I wonder if we're waiting for some deadline to pass.

How soon can Dalton be traded after singing his deal?
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August 2nd, 2024
 
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illmatic99 said:
This needs more attention. Zach doesn't just throw away comments like that on his podcast. This seems like a badly kept secret that Grant ends up in LA.

I wonder if we're waiting for some deadline to pass.

How soon can Dalton be traded after singing his deal?
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Good point, that's would be 30 days so around Aug1 if Dalton signed on July 1st.
 
wizenheimer said:
I can not believe that Markkanen would consider signing an extension, either normal or in a S&E

if it was a sign & extend, his max 1st year salary would be around 20.7M with a limitation of 5% step raises. If it was a normal extension extension, his max 1st year salary would be 24.2M. He'll probably command 35-40M 1st year as a UFA
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If your right about those limits I'd tend to agree. The Duncd on prime podcast with Hollinger and Duncan a few weeks ago made it sound like the extension could be much higher.

Now that I think about it, I think the idea was Utah could use cap space to increase his salary this season and then also increase those extension years so Markannan wouldn't be giving up anything.
 
inconceivable said:
We don't have room to take back that many players anyway
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IIRC, in the off-season the 15 man limit doesn't apply. Teams can have up to 20 players under contract. So the trade would be legal until the regular season. That's when the 15 man limit kicks in
 
illmatic99 said:
This needs more attention. Zach doesn't just throw away comments like that on his podcast. This seems like a badly kept secret that Grant ends up in LA.

I wonder if we're waiting for some deadline to pass.

How soon can Dalton be traded after singing his deal?
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Rui/Vincent/Knecht combined make about $6K more than Grant/Walker. Tough to get a closer salary match than that.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Now that I think about it, I think the idea was Utah could use cap space to increase his salary this season and then also increase those extension years so Markannan wouldn't be giving up anything.
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it's hard to figure how much cap-space Utah has. Are they just going to let Talen Horton-Tucker walk? The Jazz are somewhere around 111-112M in guarantees (including roster charges). That would give them around 29M in cap-space but THT's cap-hold is 16.5M and Ainge doesn't seem like the type of GM to just give up an asset like THT....maybe I suppose

but I'm having a hard time seeing how a team could use 2024-25 cap-space to sign a 2025-26 contract. Besides that, if Markkanen is unwilling to sign for 25M, I'd doubt that would change if it was 28-29M
 
illmatic99 said:
Don't think we include Walker.
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If Pelinka is unwilling to send 2 FRPs--or 1 FRP + Knecht--for Grant alone, do you think Walker would be too much for Cronin to include to bridge that gap?
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
Agreed.
Reath instead of Walker.
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Unfortunately (according to fanspo), Reath makes 22k too much for a Rui/Vincent/Knecht for Grant/Reath deal to work. They could make that work with Dlo/Vanderbilt, though I imagine that's less palatable. Could also put Rupert in with Grant to match with Rui/GV/DK.
 
Also curious is they're waiting for Rui to come back stateside before dropping the news of a trade.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Unfortunately (according to fanspo), Reath makes 22k too much for a Rui/Vincent/Knecht for Grant/Reath deal to work. They could make that work with Dlo/Vanderbilt, though I imagine that's less palatable. Could also put Rupert in with Grant to match with Rui/GV/DK.
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Why complicate it?

Rui/Vincent/Knecht/first

For

Grant
 
While they would like to dump DLo, at this point they probably are best off to keep him. There are no other guards reportedly available given the LAL weak assets. If Knecht is likely to be a stellar shooter then you try to get him. I would gladly give up Reath or RWIII for Knecht
 
Foxx said:
Our comfort level w just casually expecting Knecht to be a throw in at this point is.. not realistic.

Just a reminder LA is pretty high on him and attached.
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What is casual here? Multiple sources have mentioned Portland liked him a lot at draft time. Waiting to add his salary to the trade explains the delay in making the move.

We have also been rumored to want 2 firsts for Grant. Knecht and the 29 first aligns with that.
 
wizenheimer said:
it's hard to figure how much cap-space Utah has. Are they just going to let Talen Horton-Tucker walk? The Jazz are somewhere around 111-112M in guarantees (including roster charges). That would give them around 29M in cap-space but THT's cap-hold is 16.5M and Ainge doesn't seem like the type of GM to just give up an asset like THT....maybe I suppose

but I'm having a hard time seeing how a team could use 2024-25 cap-space to sign a 2025-26 contract. Besides that, if Markkanen is unwilling to sign for 25M, I'd doubt that would change if it was 28-29M
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Sabonis or some other players have done this.... Team can renegotiate current year contract to a higher amount and then do an extension off that higher amount. Hollinger and Duncan made it sound like he could get basically the full max now I believe.
 
illmatic99 said:
What is casual here? Multiple sources have mentioned Portland liked him a lot at draft time. Waiting to add his salary to the trade explains the delay in making the move.

We have also been rumored to want 2 firsts for Grant. Knecht and the 29 first aligns with that.
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Agreed. 100%
 
illmatic99 said:
Why complicate it?

Rui/Vincent/Knecht/first

For

Grant
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Again, the question I was asking was, "IF Pelinka is unwilling to give up Knecht and 1 FRP for only Grant, what asset could we include that might make up the value difference for the Lakers (and still make sense for us)?"
 
Foxx said:
Our comfort level w just casually expecting Knecht to be a throw in at this point is.. not realistic.

Just a reminder LA is pretty high on him and attached.
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Lebron will explode if a rookie is the reason they couldn't improve the team this year. Grant makes them better
 
Sucks that Walker works in a trade but Reath does not. $29, 081 difference in salary
I value Walker's rebounding.

Grant and Walker vs Grant and Reath
for
Rue, Dalton, and Gabe
 
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