Plausible destinations for our vets?

[Foxx]

Not many Lakers trades make sense as it won't make them a contender. About the only one I can see them maybe being interested in is a Jimmy Bulter deal. We should try to get in on a trade and do something like this;

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If Portland can flip everything outside of Rui for an additional first, this is great work

 

[Phatguysrule]

Simon’s is on a bad contract? News to me
Jerami Grant has value. His contract won’t be an issue to trade to a contender

I’m confused as to what your point is? You talk about Norman powell being a good value contract. Great…Norman Powell is not bringing you back more than Simon’s or grant. What are these contracts doing that is hindering the blazers from doing anything? You want cap space? that would be an odd decision to the free agency route.

Aytons contract is a max salary slot. In order to make a potential trade for a big name you’re gonna have to have one.
You look at this through a very small lens.

between those 3 we’re getting more positive assets, like it or not.
We have sharpe, clingan, toumani and I’ll still count scoot for now.
we have another lottery pick in one of the best drafts in a long time.
The pick we got from the bucks is rated the highest valued future pick and we have another pick we traded for in the top 5 most valuable.

ther is something to say for good vets in the locker room to help the young guys.

Hold onto your shorts bud…it’s a part of the process.
They’ll all likely be gone by the summer

These aren't the good vets you want in the locker room...

Learn to be one of the worst defenders in the NBA from Simons.

Learn to be one of the worst rebounders in the NBA from Grant.

Learn that getting your bag matters more than anything else from Ayton.

These are vets that could be salvageable if you had a good team built around them with good leaders. You don't want your young team learning from them.

 

[sheed30]

Simon’s is on a bad contract? News to me
Jerami Grant has value. His contract won’t be an issue to trade to a contender

I’m confused as to what your point is? You talk about Norman powell being a good value contract. Great…Norman Powell is not bringing you back more than Simon’s or grant. What are these contracts doing that is hindering the blazers from doing anything? You want cap space? that would be an odd decision to the free agency route.

Aytons contract is a max salary slot. In order to make a potential trade for a big name you’re gonna have to have one.
You look at this through a very small lens.

between those 3 we’re getting more positive assets, like it or not.
We have sharpe, clingan, toumani and I’ll still count scoot for now.
we have another lottery pick in one of the best drafts in a long time.
The pick we got from the bucks is rated the highest valued future pick and we have another pick we traded for in the top 5 most valuable.

ther is something to say for good vets in the locker room to help the young guys.

Hold onto your shorts bud…it’s a part of the process.
They’ll all likely be gone by the summer

Isn't it crazy folks think Ant has a bad contract when you look around the league at other contracts and the fact that he will be on a expring contract next year...some of these posters say the most cringe stuff and just spit out negative nonsense 24/7 like their angry at the world lol

 

[sheed30]

My point is smart teams like the Thunder or Spurs didn't acquire vets like Cronin did in a rebuild.... they use cap space on getting assets that help the franchise build long term. Or they take time to flip a useful two way vet like Powell for a pick.

Powell is leading the Clippers in scoring on great efficiency and somehow has them with a winning record. He is certainly worth more in a trade today than Grant or Simons. If you have such rose colored glasses you can't see that I'm not sure what else to tell you.

lmao, so wrong, the Spurs are in a rebuild right now and they signed old man CP3 and got Barnes on theier team in the off season

 

[SharpesTriumph]

lmao, so wrong, the Spurs are in a rebuild right now and they signed old man CP3 and got Barnes on theier team in the off season

The Spurs traded Derrick White and Dejounte Murray for a haul of picks. Then they got a draft pick for adding Barnes and signed CP3 for the minimum. I'd be ecstatic if those were the type of deals Cronin was doing. If you think that's similar to paying Ayton the max or Grant $160 million - again not sure what to tell you.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Peyton Pritchard

Not being a homer but this guy should be a starter in this league and I would seriously consider a trade for him to become our starting point. Great shooter, does good job running offense maybe a defensive liability but not because of effort.

Would Boston consider a trade? Would we consider trade if so what players? What’s their weakness maybe bigs?

to soon to give up on scoot, I still think he’s going to be good starter but I value old school pgs so I’d consider it

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Several sources told ESPN in recent weeks they aren’t sure any players making more than the low $20 million range will be traded this season. That means there could be no guarantees of better deals coming along closer to the deadline if something appealing comes up sooner.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Peyton Pritchard

Not being a homer but this guy should be a starter in this league and I would seriously consider a trade for him to become our starting point. Great shooter, does good job running offense maybe a defensive liability but not because of effort.

Would Boston consider a trade? Would we consider trade if so what players? What’s their weakness maybe bigs?

to soon to give up on scoot, I still think he’s going to be good starter but I value old school pgs so I’d consider it

I'd definitely consider it if we don't have a PG by the time the rest of the team is built out.

Any trades right now need to bring back draft picks. We still need to add a lot of talent to this roster before we start trading for pieces to fill holes.

 

[ant]

Peyton Pritchard

Not being a homer but this guy should be a starter in this league and I would seriously consider a trade for him to become our starting point. Great shooter, does good job running offense maybe a defensive liability but not because of effort.

Would Boston consider a trade? Would we consider trade if so what players? What’s their weakness maybe bigs?

to soon to give up on scoot, I still think he’s going to be good starter but I value old school pgs so I’d consider it

No thanks. Great bu guard though. Much more interested in bigger, better defending PGs.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

I'd definitely consider it if we don't have a PG by the time the rest of the team is built out.

Any trades right now need to bring back draft picks. We still need to add a lot of talent to this roster before we start trading for pieces to fill holes.

Yeah I’m not 100% on board with the idea and it’s my idea lol. I do believe a good PG makes the game easier for other players so getting a guy like Pritchard would make guys like Sharpe and Clingan better now but would hate to give up on Scoot to soon and with deep draft probably better off waiting to see what happens.

My biggest fear is we are going to go the whole year with Scoot as bench player and not really know if he’s our PG of the future. I’d rather dive into the deep end with him as starter and know if he’s our guy.

 

[inconceivable]

I'd definitely consider it if we don't have a PG by the time the rest of the team is built out.

Any trades right now need to bring back draft picks. We still need to add a lot of talent to this roster before we start trading for pieces to fill holes.

We need Cooper Flagg, Dylan Harper, Ace Bailey

 

[Phatguysrule]

Yeah I’m not 100% on board with the idea and it’s my idea lol. I do believe a good PG makes the game easier for other players so getting a guy like Pritchard would make guys like Sharpe and Clingan better now but would hate to give up on Scoot to soon and with deep draft probably better off waiting to see what happens.

My biggest fear is we are going to go the whole year with Scoot as bench player and not really know if he’s our PG of the future. I’d rather dive into the deep end with him as starter and know if he’s our guy.

Yeah, if we go all season without Scoot as our starting point guard we're insane. And he should definitely start all next season .

 

[inconceivable]

No thanks. Great bu guard though. Much more interested in bigger, better defending PGs.

We had Jrue but we traded him to Boston

 

[ant]

We had Jrue but we traded him to Boston

Well, I would love a 21 year old version of Jrue for our rebuild with our young guys. But not the win now version!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Phatguysrule]

This is really going to piss Simons' mom off...

 

[SheedSoNasty]

This is really going to piss Simons' mom off...

why is that? Can’t listen now

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Peyton Pritchard

Not being a homer but this guy should be a starter in this league and I would seriously consider a trade for him to become our starting point. Great shooter, does good job running offense maybe a defensive liability but not because of effort.

Would Boston consider a trade? Would we consider trade if so what players? What’s their weakness maybe bigs?

to soon to give up on scoot, I still think he’s going to be good starter but I value old school pgs so I’d consider it

If Sharpe was on his way to being an allstar, and another one of our young guys looked like a very good starter I might consider it.

However since we currently have ZERO legit long term starters I think its too soon to make a move for acquiring a player like Pritchard. We'd probably have to send draft picks to the Celtics and we're just not at that phase of the rebuild yet. As others have said that was the downside of the Deni trade even if you think the value exchange was fine - it just doesn't fit with how far into the rebuild we are.

We don't know what position our eventual franchise player could be. If it's a PG that lets say we draft in June, then we'd have a major position problem of duplication on our roster just like DameCJ all over.

Pritchard is a year and a half older than Simons. So he also doesn't have the youth we might ideally want in adding a starting PG either.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Yeah I’m not 100% on board with the idea and it’s my idea lol. I do believe a good PG makes the game easier for other players so getting a guy like Pritchard would make guys like Sharpe and Clingan better now but would hate to give up on Scoot to soon and with deep draft probably better off waiting to see what happens.

My biggest fear is we are going to go the whole year with Scoot as bench player and not really know if he’s our PG of the future. I’d rather dive into the deep end with him as starter and know if he’s our guy.

I feel like we do know if Scoot is or isn't our guy - we're just wishing it was the other answer.

 

[blazerkor]

This is the thing I've noticed with the Ringer is they aren't big on getting, keeping and having sources. Then it's just a bunch of fans talking ball about the things they've read from actual reporters that do have sources.

So yeah these guys talk about how Jerami needs to be a teams third best guy to pay for his contract... we know this and it's why I think the Lakers are the most likely destination. I still think at the end of the day we see Jerami going to the Lakers for Rui (who we'd flip hopefully immediately) Vincent's bad contract, one of their vet min guys to make the salaries work and either their 2029 0r 2031 FRP. If we add a couple of second round picks to Rui maybe we could flip him for that second FRP our front office says they need to give up Jerami.

They talk about how Simons can't play defense and probably needs to go to a team with a defensive identity but this is after they've decided that maybe he doesn't make much sense on the Magic because Suggs can shoot a little. Jalen Suggs is the perfect back court mate for Ant. Dude is 6'5", stout, plays awesome D and can run an offense. Ant off the ball and as a secondary playmaker or even a knock down shooter who can be a playmaker in a pinch. The Magic need shot makers and Ant is a bucket. I think Ant and Delano for Cole Anthony and Anthony Black seems almost likely... I could even see us getting some draft capital back (the worse of their pick and Denver's in this draft will be a glorified second rounder).

These guys don't even really get into Rob, I think because if he's not injured Rob makes too much sense on too many teams to even start talking about likely landing spots. Lets hope Joe finds the right one that will give us a FRP.

 

[blazerkor]

I think these trades could get done.

Waive Vincent and Reddish, keep Larry for vet leadership.




If these guys are right and the Pistons want some playoff or even play-in experience this trade could make sense for them.


Then after those three trades we take all three first round picks we acquired (Kings 2025, Magic 2025 and Lakers 2031) package them with Deandre to the Pelicans for Zion. Get Zion's body right the rest of this season and be ready to trot him out next season with all of our youth and hopefully another number one pick from Duke.

I think three FRPs and Deandre would be hard for the Pels to resist for the guy they can't keep on the court.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Remember how we got rid of franchise legend Jerome Kersey in an expansion draft? The difficulty in the next one will be who to protect.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Remember how we got rid of franchise legend Jerome Kersey in an expansion draft? The difficulty in the next one will be who to protect.

Maybe it will be more difficult by then... I'd find it pretty easy to only pick 8 Blazers I want to keep now

Sharpe
Clingan
Camara
Deni
Rupert
Banton
Scoot
Timelord

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Maybe it will be more difficult by then... I'd find it pretty easy to only pick 8 Blazers I want to keep now

Sharpe
Clingan
Camara
Deni
Rupert
Banton
Scoot
Timelord

I meant, the difficulty will be getting UP to 8, not restricting it to 8.

 

[wizenheimer]

I meant, the difficulty will be getting UP to 8, not restricting it to 8.

is 4 the new 8?

 

[Cugel]

I would make all available. Nobody is untouchable. Untouchable is Ja, Luka , SGA, Edwards etc not a bunch of role players. POR has role players a best

 

[Phatguysrule]

I would make all available. Nobody is untouchable. Untouchable is Ja, Luka , SGA, Edwards etc not a bunch of role players. POR has role players a best

You'd make all of them available in the expansion draft? So you'd just give anybody on our team away for free?

 

[Cugel]

You'd make all of them available in the expansion draft? So you'd just give anybody on our team away for free?

For free???
No of course not. I meant in the context of this trade season and ensuing deadling and draft. If it means getting assets back like FRP, everyone on POR should be available. Two 2025 FRP might be huge for this team.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

For free???
No of course not. I meant in the context of this trade season and ensuing deadling and draft. If it means getting assets back like FRP, everyone on POR should be available. Two 2025 FRP might be huge for this team.

It's an awful idea to sell low. They need a new coach and a new system before truly assessing how successful or unsuccessful Scoot and Shae will be. Nobody is giving you a top 5 pick for either at this point.

 

[Phatguysrule]

For free???
No of course not. I meant in the context of this trade season and ensuing deadling and draft. If it means getting assets back like FRP, everyone on POR should be available. Two 2025 FRP might be huge for this team.

I thought that's what you meant. Just wanted to make sure.