Player exit interviews and statements - 10 am

[tykendo]

I'm sorry, but I don't see anything wrong with what Neil said. What, do you want a "Woe is me" statement? I'm not insulted by anything he had to say. Does he need to get things done this offseason, damn straight he does. But if CJ does get traded, it better be for an awesome return. By the way, San Antone says they won't trade Kawhi to the West. I think the Blazers have a good team that can develop and get better. I'm patient, but then again, Military service makes you that way. I'm more impatient with real world issues like affordable housing & cheaper healthcare cost. Now on that!, I can't wait long.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Cavs were without Kyrie and Love in 2015. Warriors were lucky and still needed 6 games to win the series. Last year, they were getting crushed by a team that had crushed them in the regular season (Spurs) and Kawhi got hurt. Winning a championship isn't always about beating the best.

so you are saying that if the Ebola virus wipes out most quality players and coaches or there is a merger with the WNBA, we have a chance?

 

[KingSpeed]

Getting swept by a 6 seed isn't close to championship quality.

But what I don't understand, is the people that defend Stotts and say he's done a lot with a flawed roster also say we're "one or two pieces away"... if the roster is that flawed, then we're not that close to being a contender..

One piece can make a HUGE difference.

1989: swept in first round

add Buck Williams

1990: NBA Finals

 

[KingSpeed]

Warriors improved from within:

2014- lose in first round

Bench David Lee, start Green

2015- NBA championship

 

[BonesJones]

Cavs were without Kyrie and Love in 2015. Warriors were lucky and still needed 6 games to win the series. Last year, they were getting crushed by a team that had crushed them in the regular season (Spurs) and Kawhi got hurt. Winning a championship isn't always about beating the best.

Why should we take your posts seriously when you talked all season about us being a championship contender, said we'd win in 7 after going down 2-0, and guaranteed we'd at least reach a game 5?

You kill the value in your own statements by constantly making outlandish "guarantees", which are always too positive. It's not like you're wrong on both sides of the coin, so to sit here being obviously biased towards are situation, when you're positive bias has shown to be completely wrong in the past couple weeks, makes it so that these posts don't mean anything, at all.

 

[KingSpeed]

I'm sorry, but I don't see anything wrong with what Neil said. What, do you want a "Woe is me" statement? I'm not insulted by anything he had to say. Does he need to get things done this offseason, damn straight he does. But if CJ does get traded, it better be for an awesome return. By the way, San Antone says they won't trade Kawhi to the West. I think the Blazers have a good team that can develop and get better. I'm patient, but then again, Military service makes you that way. I'm more impatient with real world issues like affordable housing & cheaper healthcare cost. Now on that!, I can't wait long.

This! Not another Zach Randolph for Frye/Francis trade. What a disaster! Surely, we could've done better and if not, we should've kept him and make it work.

 

[BonesJones]

You win a title by beating 4 teams, not by beating every team.

And? The best teams never sit here and say "Oh, we struggled because they're tough". Do you ever here Golden State complaining about a "bad matchup"? No. That's a weak ass mentality and shows that the team needs better leadership since they're bitching about "bad matchups". BE BETTER.

You pick out a couple flukes from the past, and act like it's a trend. It's not. You make an outlandish point, bring up one or two examples that "support" such a claim even though those 1 or 2 instances happened in the past 25 years or so, and then act like they happen every year.

Great teams matchup to everyone. Great teams adjust well to whatever is thrown at them. Great teams don't get demolished and swept while having homecourt advantage in the playoffs because of "matchup problems".

 

[KingSpeed]

Why should we take your posts seriously when you talked all season about us being a championship contender, said we'd win in 7 after going down 2-0, and guaranteed we'd at least reach a game 5?

You kill the value in your own statements by constantly making outlandish "guarantees", which are always too positive. It's not like you're wrong on both sides of the coin, so to sit here being obviously biased towards are situation, when you're positive bias has shown to be completely wrong in the past couple weeks, makes it so that these posts don't mean anything, at all.

How was I supposed to help them meet my guarantee??? I tried voodoo! I cheered on the team in person. What was I supposed to do? I was just trying to be positive. If we had won yesterday (with no help of my own), I would've gained credibility, lol??

 

[BonesJones]

Warriors improved from within:

2014- lose in first round

Bench David Lee, start Green. Fire Jackson, Hire Kerr.

2015- NBA championship

I added something very important there. If we're trying to emulate their growth, we better fire Stotts.

 

[KingSpeed]

And? The best teams never sit here and say "Oh, we struggled because they're tough". Do you ever here Golden State complaining about a "bad matchup"? No. That's a weak ass mentality and shows that the team needs better leadership since they're bitching about "bad matchups". BE BETTER.

You pick out a couple flukes from the past, and act like it's a trend. It's not. You make an outlandish point, bring up one or two examples that "support" such a claim even though those 1 or 2 instances happened in the past 25 years or so, and then act like they happen every year.

Great teams matchup to everyone. Great teams adjust well to whatever is thrown at them. Great teams don't get demolished and swept while having homecourt advantage in the playoffs because of "matchup problems".

Championship teams do not match up to everyone. They only matchup to 4 teams. Are you honestly saying that different teams don't present different challenges??

 

[KingSpeed]

I added something very important there. If we're trying to emulate their growth, we better fire Stotts.

You have to have a better option though.

 

[BonesJones]

How was I supposed to help them meet my guarantee??? I tried voodoo! I cheered on the team in person. What was I supposed to do? I was just trying to be positive. If we had won yesterday (with no help of my own), I would've gained credibility, lol??

You would not have gained credibility. When you guarantee something, you're claiming it's "absolutely" going to happen. We could've easily won yesterday, because we had a chance. Us winning a winnable game doesn't give you credibility because you guaranteed it.

But when you claim something has a 100% chance of happening, and it doesn't, you lose all credibility.

 

[BonesJones]

You have to have a better option though.

Considering I think Stotts is a bad coach, that shouldnt be difficult.

My short list:
Ettore Messina.
Ime Udoka.
Mike Budenholzer.
Jay Wright.

 

[BonesJones]

Championship teams do not match up to everyone. They only matchup to 4 teams. Are you honestly saying that different teams don't present different challenges??

Not that they don't present different challenges, just that great teams are able to handle and adjust to any "challenge" they're presented with, which we certainly can't do.

 

[KingSpeed]

You pick out a couple flukes from the past, and act like it's a trend. It's not. You make an outlandish point, bring up one or two examples that "support" such a claim even though those 1 or 2 instances happened in the past 25 years or so, and then act like they happen every year.

They DO happen every year. You only play 4 teams! I was just using Rockets and Bulls as examples because they are considered great teams.

 

[KingSpeed]

Not that they don't present different challenges, just that great teams are able to handle and adjust to any "challenge" they're presented with, which we certainly can't do.

How do we know they can adjust to any challenge? They only beat 4 teams. Grizzlies were always bad matchup for Warriors but the one time they met in playoffs, they got hurt after taking 2-1 lead. Last year, Grizzlies owned Warriors but they never met in playoffs.

 

[hoopsjock]

lol. Because it works like that, we just get the same type of talent and since the years line up, it just happens.

Coincidence is just that. Doesn't mean history repeats itself.

Man, I said several times that it was a process to build the team. I'm willing to give Olshey one more chance to make this team better using the assets they have. Cliff Robinson was the 36th pick, we have the 24th pick. Olshey has to hit on that pick. Buck was a really, really good trade that didn't involve giving up anyone necessary for the core and it would be great if Olshey could do a trade half of that successful this summer. Between the TPE's and the tax-MLE the opportunity is there to add talent.

 

[KingSpeed]

You would not have gained credibility. When you guarantee something, you're claiming it's "absolutely" going to happen. We could've easily won yesterday, because we had a chance. Us winning a winnable game doesn't give you credibility because you guaranteed it.

But when you claim something has a 100% chance of happening, and it doesn't, you lose all credibility.

I had control over the outcome? So if I cheered louder and we won, I would've gained credibility?

 

[BonesJones]

They DO happen every year. You only play 4 teams! I was just using Rockets and Bulls as examples because they are considered great teams.

The flukes happen every year? We're talking about great teams getting upset because of bad matchups. That hardly happens. That does not happen every year. Your examples are flukes and not a general trend at all. It's an example of you picking 2 outliers out of a sample size of around 50... Take a statistics class and see how relevant those outliers are.

 

[hoopsjock]

Getting swept by a 6 seed isn't close to championship quality.

But what I don't understand, is the people that defend Stotts and say he's done a lot with a flawed roster also say we're "one or two pieces away"... if the roster is that flawed, then we're not that close to being a contender..

I don't think this was directed specifically towards me but I did say that maybe changing the coach (like the Blazers did in 88-89 and the Warriors did in 2015) would be something to look at.

 

[BonesJones]

I had control over the outcome? So if I cheered louder and we won, I would've gained credibility?

Who said you have control? I'm saying when you guarantee something, it better happen or you lose a ton of credibility, because you guaranteed it to happen.

We you have that happen over and over again, no one takes you seriously.

 

[BonesJones]

I don't think this was directed specifically towards me but I did say that maybe changing the coach (like the Blazers did in 88-89 and the Warriors did in 2015) would be something to look at.

Definitely. I believe that if we valued ball movement and played a style similar to the way Golden State plays, we'd be a great team.

 

[KingSpeed]

Considering I think Stotts is a bad coach, that shouldnt be difficult.

My short list:
Ettore Messina.
Ime Udoka.
Mike Budenholzer.
Jay Wright.

Ettore and Ime have winning experience
Bud is mixed bag. He had 4 All Stars and got swept.
And Wright should go coach a rebuilding team. We need a coach with NBA experience. Not someone learning on the fly.

 

[KingSpeed]

Definitely. I believe that if we valued ball movement and played a style similar to the way Golden State plays, we'd be a great team.

We did that often during the year and in Game 4. We just didn't adjust very well to Game 1, something Stotts can learn from.

 

[BonesJones]

How do we know they can adjust to any challenge? They only beat 4 teams. Grizzlies were always bad matchup for Warriors but the one time they met in playoffs, they got hurt after taking 2-1 lead. Last year, Grizzlies owned Warriors but they never met in playoffs.

Because over the years, the great teams are hardly upset, no matter what they're faced with. There's a reason they win 60-some games.

So your argument is, great teams can't adjust to any challenge, because they only play 4 teams so we can't know they can adjust to every challenge, therefore, just because we couldn't adjust to a "bad matchup" doesn't mean we're not a great team and aren't a piece away from contention?

That's such a strawman argument. Lmao.

 

[BonesJones]

Ettore and Ime have winning experience
Bud is mixed bag. He had 4 All Stars and got swept.
And Wright should go coach a rebuilding team. We need a coach with NBA experience. Not someone learning on the fly.

@Boob-No-More Already made you look silly for talking about Bud getting swept.

But if getting swept by LeBron is so bad, then we better fire Stotts because we got SWEPT BY THE PELICANS.

"We need a coach with NBA experience." -- Based on what...?

Steve Kerr didn't have coaching experience before taking the Golden State job. Brad Stevens didn't have coaching experience before taking the Boston job. Those guys were immediately two of the top three coaches in the league, so your logic is silly.

Coaching is coaching. Jay Wright doesn't have to re-learn how to coach basketball. Yes, some things are different in the NBA, but Jay Wright has the similar temperament and situation Brad Stevens had when he left Butler. You're logic would've turned into us passing on Brad Stevens as a coach. That just shows it's flawed.

 

[BonesJones]

We did that often during the year and in Game 4. We just didn't adjust very well to Game 1, something Stotts can learn from.

Stotts shouldn't have to learn how to make adjustments...

The dude has over a decade of NBA Playoff Experience. You just said we shouldn't higher Wright because we need someone with experience who isn't "learning on the fly", and then you just implied that everythings fine because Stotts, a coach with experience, can hopefully learn on the fly.

 

[KingSpeed]

The flukes happen every year? We're talking about great teams getting upset because of bad matchups. That hardly happens. That does not happen every year. Your examples are flukes and not a general trend at all. It's an example of you picking 2 outliers out of a sample size of around 50... Take a statistics class and see how relevant those outliers are.

I'm not talking about upsets. You're not listening. It's not that the Rockets were upset or not upset, it's that they avoided Seattle on the playoff bracket. This is true EVERY year. You only play 4 teams. My examples aren't outliers. I'm referring to an 8 year period of basketball but it's always true. Warriors lost to Clippers in 2014 but never had to face the Clippers in 2015-17 when they won West.

 

[KingSpeed]

Who said you have control? I'm saying when you guarantee something, it better happen or you lose a ton of credibility, because you guaranteed it to happen.

We you have that happen over and over again, no one takes you seriously.

No one? I've been getting PMs from people thanking me for my positivity. There are others who defended my guarantee as trying to be positive. Read the thread.

 

[KingSpeed]

Stotts shouldn't have to learn how to make adjustments...

The dude has over a decade of NBA Playoff Experience. You just said we shouldn't higher Wright because we need someone with experience who isn't "learning on the fly", and then you just implied that everythings fine because Stotts, a coach with experience, can hopefully learn on the fly.

Stotts has something to learn from so he is already ahead of Wright.