Player PER

[mook]

This was the PER last year for our 8 man rotation:

Lopez: 18.9
Batum: 15.7
Lillard: 16.4
LMA: 20.4
Matthews: 14.1
Wright: 16.0
Williams: 14.4
Robinson: 10.9

Matthews hasn't looked great so far, and of all these guys he seems to be the most likely candidate for a decline in PER. I just don't see Portland putting the ball in his hands as much this year, and he just seems less energetic out there.

But otherwise, it's hard to see how their PER's drop this year.

Williams was a starter last year, so although he's getting older you kind of expect his PER to climb some as he goes against bench players this year.

Batum, Wes, Lillard and LMA earned their PER's while logging ridiculous minutes last year, which generally hurts player efficiency. Each of these guys should see between 10% and 20% reduction in minutes played this year, just because we have talent to throw in there behind them.

Lopez is interesting, because he's got the most unassuming stat page possible for a guy with basically a 19 PER. You don't look at it and go, "Oh those numbers were inflated because of ridiculously selfish rebound-grabbing." Or "Yeah, he has a ludicrous FG% based on just dunking." Or "Yeah, he only did it in limited minutes." (He logged 2100 last year.) It's just a nice collection of quietly efficient and competent numbers, and it's hard to see why it would change much this year.

If nothing changes, it's a team with a lot of competence and one top 20 player, and a PG who is at least in the top 30. And really, it's kind of hard to see how overall the players on this team don't generally see their PER's improve this year.

 

[Natebishop3]

I want to know what's going on with Wes. He just doesn't look like himself at all. He barely played in the second half last night. There is something clearly wrong, I just want to know if it's health related or something else.

 

[Eastoff]

I want to know what's going on with Wes. He just doesn't look like himself at all. He barely played in the second half last night. There is something clearly wrong, I just want to know if it's health related or something else.

On an unrelated note, Kingspeed mentioned he has since turned down the NBA player he had sex with.

 

[magnifier661]

I want to know what's going on with Wes. He just doesn't look like himself at all. He barely played in the second half last night. There is something clearly wrong, I just want to know if it's health related or something else.

I don't think he wants to be in Portland any longer. I also think that's why Olshey grabbed many guards. I think the writing is on the wall.

 

[magnifier661]

This was the PER last year for our 8 man rotation:

Lopez: 18.9
Batum: 15.7
Lillard: 16.4
LMA: 20.4
Matthews: 14.1
Wright: 16.0
Williams: 14.4
Robinson: 10.9

Matthews hasn't looked great so far, and of all these guys he seems to be the most likely candidate for a decline in PER. I just don't see Portland putting the ball in his hands as much this year, and he just seems less energetic out there.

But otherwise, it's hard to see how their PER's drop this year.

Williams was a starter last year, so although he's getting older you kind of expect his PER to climb some as he goes against bench players this year.

Batum, Wes, Lillard and LMA earned their PER's while logging ridiculous minutes last year, which generally hurts player efficiency. Each of these guys should see between 10% and 20% reduction in minutes played this year, just because we have talent to throw in there behind them.

Lopez is interesting, because he's got the most unassuming stat page possible for a guy with basically a 19 PER. You don't look at it and go, "Oh those numbers were inflated because of ridiculously selfish rebound-grabbing." Or "Yeah, he has a ludicrous FG% based on just dunking." Or "Yeah, he only did it in limited minutes." (He logged 2100 last year.) It's just a nice collection of quietly efficient and competent numbers, and it's hard to see why it would change much this year.

If nothing changes, it's a team with a lot of competence and one top 20 player, and a PG who is at least in the top 30. And really, it's kind of hard to see how overall the players on this team don't generally see their PER's improve this year.

I see Aldridge, Lillard, Wright, Batum and Robinson to have increased PERs. Matthews should drop and Lopez should be around the same, IMO.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't think he wants to be in Portland any longer. I also think that's why Olshey grabbed many guards. I think the writing is on the wall.

But why? That makes no sense. Plus, he's going out of his way to help TRob. I wonder if he's hurt and he's not telling anyone.

 

[magnifier661]

But why? That makes no sense. Plus, he's going out of his way to help TRob. I wonder if he's hurt and he's not telling anyone.

It makes sense to me. I think Matthews just isn't into Portland. Call it a hunch; but he just doesn't look interested.

 

[tlongII]

It makes sense to me. I think Matthews just isn't into Portland. Call it a hunch; but he just doesn't look interested.

I disagree. I think Wes likes Portland a lot. I think he's injured.

 

[magnifier661]

I disagree. I think Wes likes Portland a lot. I think he's injured.

I guess we will see. I just have this weird feeling that he's unhappy.

 

[mook]

But why? That makes no sense. Plus, he's going out of his way to help TRob. I wonder if he's hurt and he's not telling anyone.

That's the impression I get.

Or maybe he's at that stage in Rocky III where he's lost the eye of the tiger a little. The NBA is full of Clubber Langs, and for a hustle guy like Matthews the difference between him and dozens of 12mpg role players is purely the amount of desire he brought. There's a reason he wasn't drafted--he's got one talent (shooting threes) and lots of heart. If he loses just a little of that heart he isn't anything special.

 

[Natebishop3]

That's the impression I get.

Or maybe he's at that stage in Rocky III where he's lost the eye of the tiger a little. The NBA is full of Clubber Langs, and for a hustle guy like Matthews the difference between him and dozens of 12mpg role players is purely the amount of desire he brought. There's a reason he wasn't drafted--he's got one talent (shooting threes) and lots of heart. If he loses just a little of that heart he isn't anything special.

I was surprised that Barton didn't play at all last night either. I get the feeling we're going to see a lot of Mo/Damian on the floor together.

 

[magnifier661]

I was surprised that Barton didn't play at all last night either. I get the feeling we're going to see a lot of Mo/Damian on the floor together.

I think that's a good thing!

 

[Blazinaway]

depending on match ups ya think we might see some batum/wright at SG/SF?

 

[blazerboy30]

I don't think he wants to be in Portland any longer. I also think that's why Olshey grabbed many guards. I think the writing is on the wall.

I know this is a message board to post Blazer thoughts, but wow. Just wow.

 

[magnifier661]

depending on match ups ya think we might see some batum/wright at SG/SF?

I wish. I don't know if Stotts will ever do it though. That would be such a nightmare for teams. PG and SG usually are at opposite sides of the court. It would so cool to have Batum and Lillard take each corner. I think it would be a nightmare for other teams because of our length too.

 

[Blazinaway]

I wish. I don't know if Stotts will ever do it though. That would be such a nightmare for teams. PG and SG usually are at opposite sides of the court. It would so cool to have Batum and Lillard take each corner. I think it would be a nightmare for other teams because of our length too.

yep and they can all bury da three

 

[magnifier661]

I know this is a message board to post Blazer thoughts, but wow. Just wow.

Hey I am a big fan of Matthews. I don't want to see him gone. I'm just looking at his demeanor last season and how Olshey reloaded with CJ, Crabbe and Mo Williams. We have so many guards. And if you pay attention; watch how Matthews walks to the huddle.

 

[julius]

Has Matthews ever done anything great in pre-season?

 

[THE HCP]

It's not a motivational thing with Wes. It's an off day for the team today and he's already heading to the PF.

 

[Blazinaway]

Hey I am a big fan of Matthews. I don't want to see him gone. I'm just looking at his demeanor last season and how Olshey reloaded with CJ, Crabbe and Mo Williams. We have so many guards. And if you pay attention; watch how Matthews walks to the huddle.

hey, the best thing that can happen is that guys like Freeland, Trob, Crabbe and eventually CJ all show that they can play and play well in their roles. That only increases the chances that we could pull off a trade involving them and/or Wes or some other combo of players to bring in another very good player.

 

[Blazinaway]

It's not a motivational thing with Wes. It's an off day for the team today and he's already heading to the PF.

what is it then, do U have an opinion?

 

[illmatic99]

Are preseason PER stats available anywhere?

 

[THE HCP]

Haven't been around the team really this preseason (besides getting my flu shot). Got no idea, but like I've said before.....cant take much away from preseason GOOD or BAD.

 

[Eastoff]

hey, the best thing that can happen is that guys like Freeland, Trob, Crabbe and eventually CJ all show that they can play and play well in their roles. That only increases the chances that we could pull off a trade involving them and/or Wes or some other combo of players to bring in another very good player.

exactly!

 

[Pinwheel1]

I don't think he wants to be in Portland any longer. I also think that's why Olshey grabbed many guards. I think the writing is on the wall.

I guess it is possible. His nose could be out of joint with all the new additions at SG. But Wes is not the type of guy who would will pout on the court. Once the season starts, if he can go full speed ...then he will. He has too much pride to go half ass.

 

[magnifier661]

I guess it is possible. His nose could be out of joint with all the new additions at SG. But Wes is not the type of guy who would will pout on the court. Once the season starts, if he can go full speed ...then he will. He has too much pride to go half ass.

That's why I love him. He's one of those 120% energy guys. I would love him to stay on this squad. I'm just preparing for, what I believe, is going to happen. It may never happen and I could be full of shit. But if it does, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Are preseason PER stats available anywhere?

Just the thought of that discussion makes me nauseous. Those advanced stats would be so skewed.

 

[magnifier661]

hey, the best thing that can happen is that guys like Freeland, Trob, Crabbe and eventually CJ all show that they can play and play well in their roles. That only increases the chances that we could pull off a trade involving them and/or Wes or some other combo of players to bring in another very good player.

That's what I'm hoping for. It would be really nice to get that marquee wing back. I just don't see one available. I mean there aren't too many star guards out there. There is a reason why we can argue Wes being a top 10 guard in the league right now. There really aren't great guards after kobe, the beard and Wade

 

[illmatic99]

Just the thought of that discussion makes me nauseous. Those advanced stats would be so skewed.

Just would be interesting. PER is normalized for PT.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Just would be interesting. PER is normalized for PT.

I know , but to me it is kind of like summer league, too many odd combinations on the floor and too early in the season playing with new players to be close to being meaningful......IMO.