Game Thread PLAYOFFS: ROUND 1, GAME 1: BLAZERS @ WARRIORS - 4/16/17, SUNDAY, 12:30 PM (PDT), ABC

[BBert]

On this day just 2 years ago...

Who was that guy?

Meyers needs to watch this clip. Then go back to his old hair cut.

#teamofdestiny

 

[TBpup]

We'll know early on what the reffing looks like after the umpteenth moving screen set by the Warriors that isn't called and magically Curry and Thompson are wide-open for jump shots while the announcers rave at how efficient Golden State is.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

We'll know early on what the reffing looks like after the umpteenth moving screen set by the Warriors that isn't called and magically Curry and Thompson are wide-open for jump shots while the announcers rave at how efficient Golden State is.

Are we going to keep track of how many Blazer moving screens are set and not called as well?

 

[TBpup]

Are we going to keep track of how many Blazer moving screens are set and not called as well?

Feel free. Every team sets them but Golden State is probably the team that is the most egregious with them.

 

[illmatic99]

Feel free. Every team sets them but Golden State is probably the team that is the most egregious with them.

Not anymore. They lost Bogut, and Zaza is meh.

 

[blue9]

Are we going to keep track of how many Blazer moving screens are set and not called as well?

You know, that just gave me an idea - something I've wanted to do myself, but have never had the time to do. And that is to track stats that aren't collected in box scores. Back when NBA.com had video clips for every stat collected in a players game log I would go through to look at stuff like Rebounds vs Contested Rebounds - so often someone would have a big rebounding night, but when I'd go back and look at the video they'd come away with 5 or fewer contested rebounds.

Soooo, if people were interested, next season people could volunteer to track one stat over the course of a game/season, and as a group we could compile a more complete assortment of stats - Contested Rbd, Hockey Asst, Screen Asst, Altered Shot, etc. Unfortunately with KGW not broadcasting I won't be able to participate...

 

[illmatic99]

Soooo, if people were interested, next season people could volunteer to track one stat over the course of a game/season, and as a group we could compile a more complete assortment of stats - Contested Rbd, Hockey Asst, Screen Asst, Altered Shot, etc. Unfortunately with KGW not broadcasting I won't be able to participate...

http://stats.nba.com/hustle/#!/

http://stats.nba.com/players/rebounding/

Westbrook leads the league in uncontested rebounds. He gets like only 2 contested rebounds a game. Puts a damper on his triple double average a bit.

This is an awesome collection

 

[dviss1]

What people don't understand is that you can move as much as you want until there's contact. An illegal screen is a foul. So until there's illegal contact, the ref has nothing.

 

[BBert]

This just makes me angry. Why does he look more experienced two years ago than today is he fucking Benjamin Button even his god damn release is faster fuuuuuckin kill me.

I think his shoulder surgery really messed him up he wasn't 100% to start the year, and then he developed some kind of vague back problems. He really doesn't look like the same player.

 

[BBert]

Feel free. Every team sets them but Golden State is probably the team that is the most egregious with them.

A lot of their "screens" look more like downfield blocking. They just keep rubbing the defender off until their shooter either has a pull up or a clear path to the basket. I'm not sure if they are all fouls considering the defender is moving trying to get around them, but if they aren't maybe the rule should be changed somehow.

 

[blue9]

http://stats.nba.com/hustle/#!/

http://stats.nba.com/players/rebounding/

Westbrook leads the league in uncontested rebounds. He gets like only 2 contested rebounds a game. Puts a damper on his triple double average a bit.

This is an awesome collection

Well THAT would have made my searches a lot easier! Thanks! (I rarely go to NBA.com anymore.)

 

[Minstrel]

It's a myth that all moving screens are illegal. This is the NBA rulebook on screens:

Section III--By Screening

A player who sets a screen shall not (1) assume a position nearer than a normal step from an opponent, if that opponent is stationary and unaware of the screener's position, or (2) make illegal contact with an opponent when he assumes a position at the side or front of an opponent, or (3) assume a position so near to a moving opponent that illegal contact cannot be avoided by the opponent without changing direction or stopping, or (4) move laterally or toward an opponent being screened, after having assumed a legal position. The screener may move in the same direction and path of the opponent being screened. In (3) above, the speed of the opponent being screened will determine what the screener's stationary position may be. This position will vary and may be one to two normal steps or strides from his opponent.

Most of Golden State's moving screens are in the same direction as the player being screened (I remember people complaining about Bogut's "stumble-back" screens last year). Every team uses these types of screens, because they're explicitly legal. Does Golden State set illegal screens that don't get called? Sure, every team does. But the idea that Golden State constantly sets uncalled illegal screens is based on the misunderstanding that all screens must be stationary.

 

[THE HCP]

Talent wins out in these kind of series...... nothing to be mad about or frustrated or look for somebody to blame. The team with more talent should win out in 4 or maybe 5.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

If the Blazers push this series to 6 or 7, I will consider that a HUGE win for the franchise and a building block for next year. A fully healthy Nurkic with Dame, CJ, perhaps draft day trade for a starting caliber PF with a growing Vonleh backing up, along with a growing Crabbe/Harkless tandem at SF (I think Aminu, Turner, and Leonard are gone), and next year sets up nicely for a top-half finish in the West.

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

I am going to laugh so hard when CJ breaks Thompson's ankles not once but twice during this series.

#positivethoughts

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

"We're gonna kick their asses!"

 

[Hobbesarable]

Nurkic comes back and we take the Warriors in 7, baby!

#rumandcokehelps

 

[Chris Craig]

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Another interesting wrinkle

Fat chance

 

[Chris Craig]

I wonder what refs we are going to get? NBA will probably give us the three biggest assholes they can

 

[BrianFromWA]

What people don't understand is that you can move as much as you want until there's contact. An illegal screen is a foul. So until there's illegal contact, the ref has nothing.

Great point, and a question I've always had...

Is it basically the same rule for setting a screen as taking a charge? I.e., if you're "sliding into position" you can lay a bigger screen on someone, or if you lean back away from contact you're going to get called?

EDIT: Basically, Minstrel talked about this a few posts later, but I'm still intrigued by your take on it.

 

[BBert]

I am going to laugh so hard when CJ breaks Thompson's ankles not once but twice during this series.

#positivethoughts

Did you mean during this game?



#teamofdestiny

 

[Chris Craig]

I am going to laugh so hard when CJ breaks Thompson's ankles not once but twice during this series.

#positivethoughts

Only twice?

 

[BBert]

Nurkic comes back and we take the Warriors in 7, baby!

#rumandcokehelps

#sodoessniffingglue

#teamofdestiny

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

Only twice?

Well I don't want to be unrealistic.

 

[blue9]

Only twice?

Does Klay have more than two ankles?

 

[KingSpeed]

Insider article at ESPN.com says we have less than 1% chance of winning series, lol.

 

[HailBlazers]

Insider article at ESPN.com says we have less than 1% chance of winning series, lol.

So you're saying there's a chance

 

[stampedehero]

Nurk wasn't even listed as Bench ???!!!???

 

[stampedehero]

Insider article at ESPN.com says we have less than 1% chance of winning series, lol.

Is ESPN relevant anymore?

 

[ripcityboy]

Insider article at ESPN.com says we have less than 1% chance of winning series, lol.

Never tell me the odds!