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PCmor7 said:
Follow the MAGA/BBB blueprint. Tell people you are going to do something they like. Completely disavow anything the voters won't like, even if you've already said it or put it in print elsewhere. Attack your opponents in return so they waste time defending themselves rather than spotlighting your issues. Gain control of the WH and both houses of Congress. Sign executive orders to start the process to enact all the stuff you were trying to say you weren't doing. Have Congress vote to pass bills within the next couple of weeks that just say they are keeping the status quo, which is now the EOs, and codify that before it becomes a matter for SCOTUS to counter.

They could do universal healthcare and gun control a couple of different ways like this and have 3 1/2 years to worry about holding enough seats in the federal government for the next election.
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I think gun control would cost them more in the long run. Somewhere between 50 and 100 million Americans are passionate about the right to own and operate firearms.

There's nothing Democrats could do that the Supreme Court wouldn't strike down in a three or four year period that would show better results than the harm it would cause to their reputation.

This is just not a very important hill to die on.

On the other hand, Medicare for all would be a huge success if the people who were setting it up and running it actually wanted it to be a success.

The problem Democrats have run into is that their legislation doesn't get anything done in a timely fashion. They count on the next administration to see it through...

You simply have to offer legislation that impacts people's lives positively. And you have to do it quickly so people are pissed if the next guy takes it away.
 
Run an anti-AI campaign. Focus on the billionaire CEOs not paying taxes, focus on the environmental and energy concerns, focus on the rights of creatives and consumers to safe and accurate models without stealing copyrighted art or presenting misinformation. Strict regulations on the internet, returning net neutrality and making the internet a utility for all. Everyone hates AI; it's a winner as an issue.
 
Everything Beagle said:
Run an anti-AI campaign. Focus on the billionaire CEOs not paying taxes, focus on the environmental and energy concerns, focus on the rights of creatives and consumers to safe and accurate models without stealing copyrighted art or presenting misinformation. Strict regulations on the internet, returning net neutrality and making the internet a utility for all. Everyone hates AI; it's a winner as an issue.
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Interesting idea. Good point.

I'm not sure if that pulls anybody back to the fold though. Nobody is refusing to vote Democrat because of their stance on AI. At least not yet, that I'm aware of...
 
Phatguysrule said:
Interesting idea. Good point.

I'm not sure if that pulls anybody back to the fold though. Nobody is refusing to vote Democrat because of their stance on AI. At least not yet, that I'm aware of...
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Trust me, this platform plus the TABLE STAKES of “Israel is doing a genocide” would get Bluesky on your side.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Where? Link?
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https://www.brennancenter.org/our-w...e-passport-or-birth-certificate-register-vote

https://hartmannreport.com/p/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-c6f

https://www.judicialwatch.org/videos/fitton-huge-5-million-dirty-names-purged-from-voter-rolls/

The Department of Justice is "investigating" state election officials. Consider that Trump and his cult STILL insist he won the 2020 election and it was stolen from him. Look for replacement of honest officials with Trump loyalists.
 
Everything Beagle said:
Trust me, this platform plus the TABLE STAKES of “Israel is doing a genocide” would get Bluesky on your side.
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Interesting concept I'm just not sure if it's personal enough for enough people yet. And by the time it gets there it might be just too late.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I think gun control would cost them more in the long run. Somewhere between 50 and 100 million Americans are passionate about the right to own and operate firearms.

There's nothing Democrats could do that the Supreme Court wouldn't strike down in a three or four year period that would show better results than the harm it would cause to their reputation.

This is just not a very important hill to die on.

On the other hand, Medicare for all would be a huge success if the people who were setting it up and running it actually wanted it to be a success.

The problem Democrats have run into is that their legislation doesn't get anything done in a timely fashion. They count on the next administration to see it through...

You simply have to offer legislation that impacts people's lives positively. And you have to do it quickly so people are pissed if the next guy takes it away.
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I wasn't thinking about actually taking away guns. It would be more a case of common sense stuff -- more comprehensive background checks, gun ownership insurance, proof of proper handling and storage capabilities. I think there are a lot of passionate gun owners that wouldn't be bothered much by that once it was employed.

And the actual power of the Supreme Court is going to be put to the test at some point, if it hasn't been already. It's going to be hard for SCOTUS to diminish Congress's oversight and checks capabilities over the executive branch and still be effective in saying it has power over the executive branch, though. I think you're going to see that pushed hard at some point in this presidential term, where the court hands down a ruling Trump doesn't like and the administration just says "we don't care, we're doing it anyway."
 
PCmor7 said:
I wasn't thinking about actually taking away guns. It would be more a case of common sense stuff -- more comprehensive background checks, gun ownership insurance, proof of proper handling and storage capabilities. I think there are a lot of passionate gun owners that wouldn't be bothered much by that once it was employed.
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There are a lot of gun owners who would support Democrats even with those suggestions. But those gun owners likely already support Democrats.

Those suggestions are preventing millions of voters from supporting Democrats in otherwise very winnable states like Texas (Beto?), Nevada, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, etc.

None of those suggestions (even all of them combined) would make as much of a difference in violent crime and murder rates as universal healthcare and universal education through college/trade school.

Anything further that impacts law abiding citizens is going to prevent millions of those voters from ever voting Democrat again.

However, if you simply say that we are no longer pushing gun control, rather focusing on just the social resolutions I believe you could get millions of those voters back in very critical states that supported Trump in 2024.

And the actual power of the Supreme Court is going to be put to the test at some point, if it hasn't been already. It's going to be hard for SCOTUS to diminish Congress's oversight and checks capabilities over the executive branch and still be effective in saying it has power over the executive branch, though. I think you're going to see that pushed hard at some point in this presidential term, where the court hands down a ruling Trump doesn't like and the administration just says "we don't care, we're doing it anyway."
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I agree.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
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Makes me feel a tiny bit better about this country. Millions of us might vote for nazis, but at least we don't attend their concerts in vast numbers.

barfo
 
SlyPokerDog said:
It's cute that you all think we're still going to have free and fair elections.
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getting the kiddos passport updated now in anticipation. Not one of those, "oh I'm leaving I don't like it" folks. But am definitely one of those, am monitoring the situation to get the fuck out quickly when my kids rights are taken away people. Am sure google is sending my info to the right, wrong? people, but always looking at the best places to be. Thankfully Oregon is a good spot for our family for now
 
OMFG! His chances of being mayor are now zero.

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Is there any hit piece New York Times won't print? While sanewashing Trump.
 
I went to see Easy Rider with another girl when I was I think 14? Maybe 15? At any rate, it was R rated due to OMG naked bodies.

Good thing I was born in New Jersey like Springsteen, they can't deport me.
 
Supreme Rubber Stamp just ruled Trump can fire thousands of federal workers even if future courts decide it was illegal.
 
Strenuus said:
It sad when youre such a fucking loser who already is an awful human being for voting for Trump, that you have nothing but this.

Im so glad im better than them at everything in life.
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Right? Like I totally get that online leftists can be fucking annoying (and I do know I’m one of those annoying online leftists) but at least we’re annoying in pursuit of fulfillment and self-determination. These losers see that and get so mad that someone other than them is also winning that they want to destroy the entire game instead of let another player score a point
 
Fox and others on the right are up in arms over, drumroll, the new Superman movie. Apparently the man of steel is actually woke. He talks about oh the horror kindness. And also he is an immigrant. In fact he is an actual alien.

Trump, after all, talked repeatedly about great Hannibal Lecter. Cannibalism more to MAGA taste, no pun intended, than kindness.
 
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