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Rastapopoulos

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Okay, let's assume draft day comes, our pick comes up, and available are five players, one at each position, and each, by a miraculous coincidence, has an identical age, ceiling and floor to the other. There's no BPA - they're all equal. Which should we take?
 
If we have 5 people in the same Tier when we draft, we should get a PG. I love Ant, but he is clearly a SG.
 
Power forward simply because we already have Simons, Trent, Little, and Collins as our future. We just need a power forward. But we can argue that a point guard is also a need since Simons isn’t terrific at playmaking for others...at least not now. So point guard could also be a good way to go but I feel there’s a lot of young point guard in the league that we could trade for. It’s not as easy to get a good power forward though
 
Same tier in terms of long range potential, or in terms of actual contribution? If you mean hypothetical upside, my response is to draft the guy who has shown the most actual game!

Beyond that -I am struggling to answer. A back-up PG makes sense....unless Whiteside is asking for too much (very likely) in which case we need a 4/5....of course the combination of Hood's injury and Ariza's age point to a 3!
 
Center. No depth behind an injury prone starter.
 
tlongII said:
Center. No depth behind an injury prone starter.
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It’s very likely that we bring Whiteside back. Coronovirus has shot down any chances of him going to another team. I do really like Vernon Carey and Omer Yurtseven. I think they both have a potential to be solid starters in this league. So we can draft either of them and they can learn from Nurkic and Whiteside
 
damianlillard said:
It’s very likely that we bring Whiteside back. Coronovirus has shot down any chances of him going to another team. I do really like Vernon Carey and Omer Yurtseven. I think they both have a potential to be solid starters in this league. So we can draft either of them and they can learn from Nurkic and Whiteside
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I disagree. I think there’s little chance Whiteside returning. We’ll see.
 
A case can be made for all 5 spots.
This is my order
  1. An explosive young backup PG who can play now or slowly be groomed.
  2. A young center-maybe a Euro who slips down a little but who has huge upside
  3. A PF who can guard the perimeter and stroke it from deep.
  4. A combo SG/SF with length who possesses every skill
 
tlongII said:
I disagree. I think there’s little chance Whiteside returning. We’ll see.
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Yeah after giving it a little more thought you could be right actually. I think the money won’t be a problem. But the issue will be whether or not if Whiteside will accept being a super back up to Nurkic. Every time Nurkic name have been brought up he almost always say how excited he is to start along side Nurkic. We all know that a twin tower of Nurkic and Whiteside isn’t gonna end well. So it’s really gonna be up to Whiteside if he want to come off of the bench and compete for a champ or to find a place to start elsewhere which is gonna be super hard to find
 
I vote Small Forward ….Ariza is old and Rodney is coming off a bad injury...Trent will only be cheap for one more season...draft a SF....I think we can get a PF from the G league
 
riverman said:
I vote Small Forward ….Ariza is old and Rodney is coming off a bad injury...Trent will only be cheap for one more season...draft a SF....I think we can get a PF from the G league
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Umm...we have Little still. In this draft he would easily be a top 10 talent. I think PF is a bigger need that we all tend to forget about
 
damianlillard said:
Umm...we have Little still. In this draft he would easily be a top 10 talent. I think PF is a bigger need that we all tend to forget about
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Now we have Zach, Biggie, Melo, Hoard, Little ...all can play some PF
 
riverman said:
Now we have Zach, Biggie, Melo, Hoard, Little ...all can play some PF
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Okay then you were talking about SF so we have Ariza, Hood, Trent, Little, Mario, and Gabriel who all can play SF. The first 5 are or nearly guaranteed to come back next year. And for PF only Collins and Little are guaranteed to come back
 
damianlillard said:
Okay then you were talking about SF so we have Ariza, Hood, Trent, Little, Mario, and Gabriel who all can play SF. The first 5 are or nearly guaranteed to come back next year. And for PF only Collins and Little are guaranteed to come back
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I said we can get a PF like Biggie in the G league and draft a SF.....I also think Mario and Melo are playing PF...not SF...our SF rotation has been Ariza, Trent and Hood..
 
Do we have any PFs on our roster? I know Zach's SUPPOSED to be that, but I hear people say all the time that he's better at C. If you're starting 90 year old Carmelo there, you're probably in need of an upgrade.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Do we have any PFs on our roster? I know Zach's SUPPOSED to be that, but I hear people say all the time that he's better at C. If you're starting 90 year old Carmelo there, you're probably in need of an upgrade.
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That would be the reason I voted Zach. Now, if Hoard is actually a player that's less of a need, but aside from that relatively unlikely possibility, I feel like that's where we have the least quality depth next season.

Aside from PG, that is, but I don't want a rookie PG running our second unit (or Simons); IMO, that spot should be filled by a FA.
 
Always draft the best available player IMO despite need. Need can get you in trouble in the draft.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
When HAVEN'T we needed a backup PG in the Olshey era?
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Agreed. Doesn't change my stance. But hey, if they decide to give Peyton Pritchard a look in the second, I won't complain too awful much.
 
Always draft the best player available. We passed on Chris Paul because we had a PG in Sebastian Telfair. Not to mention Bowie over Jordan.

But if all else is equal, SF is the biggest long term position of need. I would address positions in trades or free agency though. Drafted players shouldn't contribute right away.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Always draft the best player available. We passed on Chris Paul because we had a PG in Sebastian Telfair. Not to mention Bowie over Jordan.

But if all else is equal, SF is the biggest long term position of need. I would address positions in trades or free agency though. Drafted players shouldn't contribute right away.
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I think PF is actually our biggest long term need. Collins will eventually be a full time center at some point. And we already have Little as our young prospect at the SF spot. And if Little was in this draft he would have the highest upside out of any wings and be a top 5 pick. So with that being said who do we have at PF spot, the answer is no one
 
damianlillard said:
I think PF is actually our biggest long term need. Collins will eventually be a full time center at some point. And we already have Little as our young prospect at the SF spot. And if Little was in this draft he would have the highest upside out of any wings and be a top 5 pick. So with that being said who do we have at PF spot, the answer is no one
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I said PF as well for this reason. However, the more I think about it, PF is a vanishing position. I think of the paradigmatic PF as Karl Malone. After him came players like Chris "Power Forward for the 90s" Webber, then people like Dirk Nowitzki, Kevin Garnett and LaMarcus. (I don't count Tim Duncan because really he played center mostly - you're not telling me Matt Bonner was their C.) But LaMarcus is now pretty much forced to play C, as is Zach Collins, who would've been a classic PF back in the day. Now who is there? Blake Griffin? I guess. But who else? It's mostly players who would've been SFs back in the day, but don't have SF skills - like Aminu or Draymond Green. (Jerome Kersey would probably be a PF in today's game.) We've got Carmelo there because he's too slow for SF, but he's been SF all his career. Philly tried to play the closest player to Tim Duncan around today, Al Horford, at PF next to Embiid and it just didn't work, so much so that they're starting Shake Milton over him now. Am I missing something here or is it just two guards, two wings and a big these days?
 
damianlillard said:
I think PF is actually our biggest long term need. Collins will eventually be a full time center at some point. And we already have Little as our young prospect at the SF spot. And if Little was in this draft he would have the highest upside out of any wings and be a top 5 pick. So with that being said who do we have at PF spot, the answer is no one
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Your writing in two young unproven players as long term starters?

Neither has been a proven bench rotational player.

I like them as prospects. But I'm not passing on a small forward, the scarciest position in the Association, because of them.

Again this is why you draft the best talent.

If somehow we draft an elite SF and Little becomes elite I'd love to have that problem. One could likely get minutes at SG or PF. Two there is a bench role.

We've had many young players in Portland that were though to be destined to major roles and it never happened. Jared Bayless is an example. Once we have too much depth of proven elite players at a position.... then I'll worry about how we fix it.
 
A big wing would be great, but don't love any of them.

Patrick Williams is young, but really struggled vs good competition and has big issues moving on the perimeter.

Saddiq is fine. Doesn't play as big or as physically as his frame suggests though (I expect his standing reach to be abnormally short for his height and length) and can't do much with the ball. Versatile defender in college but worry he becomes a man without a country in the NBA. Team defense is meh, but could be partly due to Villanova's scheme (very conservative off the ball).

Tyler Bey and Precious Achiuwa aren't nearly skilled enough to play 3.

After that you got guys like Robert Woodard, who doesn't stand out in any one area and wasn't that good in college.

Jordan Nwora doesn't defend and isn't much of a ball handler or passer. Has a bankable skill, but likely settles into being a bench spread 4 if he sticks.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Your writing in two young unproven players as long term starters?

Neither has been a proven bench rotational player.

I like them as prospects. But I'm not passing on a small forward, the scarciest position in the Association, because of them.

Again this is why you draft the best talent.

If somehow we draft an elite SF and Little becomes elite I'd love to have that problem. One could likely get minutes at SG or PF. Two there is a bench role.

We've had many young players in Portland that were though to be destined to major roles and it never happened. Jared Bayless is an example. Once we have too much depth of proven elite players at a position.... then I'll worry about how we fix it.
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Okay I see where you’re coming from. I guess I should’ve clarify myself a little better. I think our PF spot is our weakest spot long term, there’s no prospect at that spot now. But I also agree that this draft is actually somewhat deep on SF spot and short on talent at the PF spot. So with that being said I could agree with you on that we need to draft the best player which very could be a SF which I wouldn’t mind to create a competition between Little and this SF prospect. So that could be good. But the PF would still be our weakest spot which we don’t have to answer this draft. We can wait till 2021 draft where there’s way more talent to get a PF. Does that make sense?
 
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