Poll on Dame's question

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Go Young or get something done?

  • Go young

    Votes: 30 51.7%

  • Get something done

    Votes: 28 48.3%
  • Total voters
    58
Rastapopoulos said:
I've actually convinced myself that it would bad for us to get Wemby because there's no way that somebody that tall could have a relatively injury-free career. Plus we did pretty well with the #7 pick in a worse draft.
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I was in a history class with Kareem at UCLA. He was pretty thin would you have taken a chance on him.
 
For those voting “Get something done” who can we add that will make us a contender? How many would we need to add? What will we be left with? If we don’t compete and Dame asks out is his value less after another season? A season more than likely not as good as this one?

This isn’t meant to be combative. Just legitimately asking
 
Irish Trader said:
I was in a history class with Kareem at UCLA. He was pretty thin would you have taken a chance on him.
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Holy cow - now they study YOU in history.

Back then they hadn't invented half the injuries they have now, so people could be skinny, play in Chuck Taylors and average 40+ mpg over 82 games.
 
RR7 said:
I had been hoping we could have 6 threads talking about the same topic!
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To the end of my days I will not understand the Thread Police. Do they cut down an acre of rainforest for every thread?
 
Mediocre Man said:
For those voting “Get something done” who can we add that will make us a contender? How many would we need to add? What will we be left with? If we don’t compete and Dame asks out is his value less after another season? A season more than likely not as good as this one?

This isn’t meant to be combative. Just legitimately asking
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My fear is that we're going to pull another Jerami Grant.

He might just leave for nothing this summer. We used a pick on him. I'm scared we go get someone who doesn't work out and then have to trade them and Dame and now we're REALLY back at square one because we dealt our pick and maybe even Sharpe.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Holy cow - now they study YOU in history.

Back then they hadn't invented half the injuries they have now, so people could be skinny, play in Chuck Taylors and average 40+ mpg over 82 games.
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When you harken back to those days you remind me of the saying no guts no glory
 
The Blazers were the seventh youngest team in the NBA going into this year. After the trade deadline , they got younger. Time to add experience to the experiment. Enough of Romper Room.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I've actually convinced myself that it would bad for us to get Wemby because there's no way that somebody that tall could have a relatively injury-free career. Plus we did pretty well with the #7 pick in a worse draft.
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Worse Draft? Go back and look. The 2022 NBA Draft will probably go down as one of the best, when it's all said and done.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
It's no 2018
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That draft is looking amazing, for sure. I looked at both, counted out the "Who" guys. 2018 had 28 "who", 2022 had 32 "who". Now obviously 2018 has had more time to prove their worth. 2022 could be similar if Players like Sharpe end up being generational. It's too early to tell. But right now you have to give the edge to 2018. But in 5 years, 2022 might catch up.
 
Also, my Denver buddy and i went over drafts of the last 20 years a few weeks back. Some Drafts were incredibly awful. The 2002 Draft with Yao Ming was one of those. Only 2 players ( Ming, Amare Stoudemire) were real stars. A few real good players ( Boozer, Caron Butler) . But no real star power. Dreadful draft.
 
By the way , the Blazers chose Qyntel Woods.
 
Mediocre Man said:
For those voting “Get something done” who can we add that will make us a contender? How many would we need to add? What will we be left with? If we don’t compete and Dame asks out is his value less after another season? A season more than likely not as good as this one?

This isn’t meant to be combative. Just legitimately asking
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No one person will likely make us a contender. We'll need to get somebody at lower value than they have been at in a couple years.

Keep Sharpe, trade Ant and the pick. Get a player better than Jeremy Grant (preferably a PF).

That should get us close. Then Dame needs to start recruiting. Guys are going to have to come here ring chasing. We've got 2-ish years to make a go of it without trading our future.

Will any of these draft picks make us better than we are now with Dame (when we aren't tanking)? Maybe, maybe not.
 
Phatguysrule said:
No one person will likely make us a contender. We'll need to get somebody at lower value than they have been at in a couple years.

Keep Sharpe, trade Ant and the pick. Get a player better than Jeremy Grant (preferably a PF).

That should get us close. Then Dame needs to start recruiting. Guys are going to have to come here ring chasing. We've got 2-ish years to make a go of it without trading our future.

Will any of these draft picks make us better than we are now with Dame (when we aren't tanking)? Maybe, maybe not.
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Get us close to what? Nurk is a bad fit, but basically Ant and 5 gets you what needle moving PF?
 
Mediocre Man said:
Get us close to what?
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Gets us close enough to keep Dame happy. We don't have to be a shoo-in to win the whole thing. Dame just wants a punchers chance, IMO.

Mediocre Man said:
Nurk is a bad fit, but basically Ant and 5 gets you what needle moving PF?
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Ant, 5 (we likely won't have the 5, but whatever that pick ends up being), and some 2nd rounders, or maybe the other first rounder should get you close to Siakam (now that the Raps flamed out).

I think we probably could have gotten Randle for MUCH less than that last year. Might be somebody else like that. There are guys like that available every year. Maybe even a center to replace Nurk. We need to get one or two more guys of JG or better quality (or at least potential). We need to trade some of our tradeable contracts to teams looking to shed salary.

Take some chances on some guys, and if it's not working next season, blow it up and go young.
 
Would people want to go young this bad?

 
Phatguysrule said:
Gets us close enough to keep Dame happy. We don't have to be a shoo-in to win the whole thing. Dame just wants a punchers chance, IMO.


Ant, 5 (we likely won't have the 5, but whatever that pick ends up being), and some 2nd rounders, or maybe the other first rounder should get you close to Siakam (now that the Raps flamed out).

I think we probably could have gotten Randle for MUCH less than that last year. Might be somebody else like that. There are guys like that available every year. Maybe even a center to replace Nurk. We need to get one or two more guys of JG or better quality (or at least potential). We need to trade some of our tradeable contracts to teams looking to shed salary.

Take some chances on some guys, and if it's not working next season, blow it up and go young.
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Randle is what I’m afraid of
 
Mediocre Man said:
Randle is what I’m afraid of
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We'd be in the playoffs if we had him this season. We'll certainly make it next season if we add him now.

He may be a headcase, but I've been told we have one of the best leaders in the NBA.
 
Phatguysrule said:
We'd be in the playoffs if we had him this season. We'll certainly make it next season if we add him now.

He may be a headcase, but I've been told we have one of the best leaders in the NBA.
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He’s made the playoffs 1 time before this year. He’s a name though, like I’m afraid of. He also holds the damn ball
 
Tince said:
I agree, not near enough value.

This trade idea seems to be on the low end on what I would expect the league to be offering. Far too low on what I would be willing to trade Dame for. This is the catch on trading him.
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In another thread, I'm discussing Dame to Toronto for FVV/Barnes/23 lotto pick (if they want to "go for it" with Siakam). I could then see flipping FVV to Miami for Robinson/Jovic. Maybe picks too since Robinson contract sucks.
 
Tince said:
I agree, not near enough value.

This trade idea seems to be on the low end on what I would expect the league to be offering. Far too low on what I would be willing to trade Dame for. This is the catch on trading him.
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You said the below not long ago in another thread;

"Dame makes $4m/year more than Ruby Gobert, who got traded for young talent and a bunch of firsts just a year ago. No clue how you could call him untradable."

He is untradable because he is a short, aging ball dominant pg with no defense that will make $250 mil over next 4 seasons. An offer of Herro, a sg that we have two of, a dreadful contract and garbage picks. No Bam, that is the kind of offers Portland will be getting for Dame. I just need to sit back and watch. Posters thinking we can get a haul for Dame is laughable with his contract and other negatives mentioned. Whatever, I'll just lurk here. Go Blazers!
 
BIG Q said:
You said the below not long ago in another thread;

"Dame makes $4m/year more than Ruby Gobert, who got traded for young talent and a bunch of firsts just a year ago. No clue how you could call him untradable."

He is untradable because he is a short, aging ball dominant pg with no defense that will make $250 mil over next 4 seasons. An offer of Herro, a sg that we have two of, a dreadful contract and garbage picks. No Bam, that is the kind of offers Portland will be getting for Dame. I just need to sit back and watch. Posters thinking we can get a haul for Dame is laughable with his contract and other negatives mentioned. Whatever, I'll just lurk here. Go Blazers!
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Gobert is garbage and the Jazz got a king’s ransom for him.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
In another thread, I'm discussing Dame to Toronto for FVV/Barnes/23 lotto pick (if they want to "go for it" with Siakam). I could then see flipping FVV to Miami for Robinson/Jovic. Maybe picks too since Robinson contract sucks.
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Rather see if Simons/Nurk/Toronto pick and Knicks pick is enough to get Bam.

Imagine getting #2, taking Scoot, and adding Bam.

Scoot
Sharpe
Barnes
Grant
Bam.
 
Dame wants a shot at a championship. What team could give equal value for Dame and still be a contender? Would need a third team involved, but yeah. Dame isn't going anywhere.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
In another thread, I'm discussing Dame to Toronto for FVV/Barnes/23 lotto pick (if they want to "go for it" with Siakam). I could then see flipping FVV to Miami for Robinson/Jovic. Maybe picks too since Robinson contract sucks.
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Not enough in return for me.
 
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