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As mentioned from Blazersedge, this trade also works under the cap (and consolidates at the same time)

To Portland:

Gerald Wallace

To Charlotte:

Travis Outlaw
Steve Blake
Channing Frye

I'll also mention that I like Wallace and when you factor in Paul Allen, he'd be a great pickup.
 
As mentioned from Blazersedge, this trade also works under the cap (and consolidates at the same time)

To Portland:

Gerald Wallace

To Charlotte:

Travis Outlaw
Steve Blake
Channing Frye

I'll also mention that I like Wallace and when you factor in Paul Allen, he'd be a great pickup.

I LOVE Wallace, but that seems like a lot. We would lose our backup PF and who would start at the point? They already have 2 PG's anyway. I would love to have Gerald as our starting 3 though!
 
wallace always seemed like a guy with a chip on his shoulder. a jermaine o neal type. not the kind of character guy we'd want in PDX. but I trust whatever KP does.
 
In what universe is that a bad contract for a guy who is 26, is a good defender, insanely athletic, good rebounder, and puts up 18-19 points per game? I agree that his concussions are a little worrisome, but his contract more than fairly reflects his value.

Agreed, for what Wallace brings to the table (points, reb, steals, blocks...and sticky "D") that contract is not bad at all. I'm pretty sure that he can shake the injury label once he goes back to playing his more natural position as opposed to playing PF, where he was giving up almost 20-30 pounds to the defender.
 
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I LOVE Wallace, but that seems like a lot. We would lose our backup PF and who would start at the point? They already have 2 PG's anyway. I would love to have Gerald as our starting 3 though!

That's not that much, besides it's not like you can get something for nothing, the team your trading has to get value as well. Charlotte really only has one PG since Felton is really a SG marqeurading as a PG...lol. Don't let the numbers fool you, just cause the box score says 6-7 assists doesn't mean he knows how to get the team involved, he gets a majority of his assists on breakaways. I think if Portland can get a good energy guy that can play forward and board as well...it would soften the blow of loosing Frye...I'm thinking Jared Dudley.

Maybe even a 3 team trade could work....hmmmm...involve memphis and go for Lowry...hmmmmm
 
Dave at Blazers edge chimes in:



First of all, Raef's contract is bigger than Wallace's. Either there is a third team involved or Portland takes on a player they want to get rid of. And rumors are it's a local boy. This works under the cap:

To Charlotte:
Raef LaFrentz
Travis Outlaw

To Portland:
Gerald Wallace
Adam Morrison

I like that trade. I also like the idea of expanding it.

To Charlotte:
Raef LaFrentz
Travis Outlaw
Steve Blake
Ike Diogu

To Portland:
Gerald Wallace
Adam Morrison
Raymond Felton
Nazr Mohammed
 
I like that trade. I also like the idea of expanding it.

To Charlotte:
Raef LaFrentz
Travis Outlaw
Steve Blake
Ike Diogu

To Portland:
Gerald Wallace
Adam Morrison
Raymond Felton
Nazr Mohammed

I really don't see Charlotte agreeing to this. Mohammed is thier only interior defensive threat outside of Okefor...and Felton, can be traded for more in return than Lafrentz' expiring contract...no way this would go down unless a young servicable player is added instead of Diogu...such as Bayless or Batum...it would take something like that for the Bobcats to give up Felton and Mohammed AS WELL as Wallace in a trade
 
Looking for a blockbuster makes sense. Adding a sure-fire member to the "big three" while maintaining the majority of our young core (which would be the case... no trade is going to drain all of the half-dozen or so of trade-worthy guys we've got) is the best move.

I, like others, LOVE Gerald Wallace. He defends well and he's effective even when plays aren't called for him. He's young enough to fit in our window of opportunity and he has a contract that MIGHT make him more attainable than other players of a similar stature.

Finally: 27th in power rankings? Haha. Whatever.

Ed O.
 
Individually I love Wallace's game, the D and the hustle/slashing role he plays is a lot of fun to watch. But as far as a piece of the starting unit I don't see him fitting so well with this team, with his lack of outside shooting and what I hope will be more of an inside-out game once Greg is healthy and adjusted.

I would have given quite a bit to get Danny Granger from the Pacers, his offensive repertoire fits perfectly with our starting unit and he's got some developing skill on the defensive end as well, plus he fits in perfectly age wise with our core. But with Bird giving him the big extension it's pretty clear they're committed to building with him as a major piece of their foundation, so it's all but impossible to see him coming our way.

Another great young wing I'd be ecstatic to make a move for would be Thaddeus Young, he's got such an efficient game, and with adding the 3-ball like he seems to have done this offseason he's got the potential to be an absolute star SF (I already think he's in the same conversation with Durant as far as last years rookie class goes, and if he keeps up what he's started this year I think he's got the potential to be hands down the better of the two). But I can't think of any really likely scenarios where Philly would be willing to part with what looks to be an up and coming allstar.
 
Individually I love Wallace's game, the D and the hustle/slashing role he plays is a lot of fun to watch. But as far as a piece of the starting unit I don't see him fitting so well with this team, with his lack of outside shooting and what I hope will be more of an inside-out game once Greg is healthy and adjusted.

I would have given quite a bit to get Danny Granger from the Pacers, his offensive repertoire fits perfectly with our starting unit and he's got some developing skill on the defensive end as well, plus he fits in perfectly age wise with our core. But with Bird giving him the big extension it's pretty clear they're committed to building with him as a major piece of their foundation, so it's all but impossible to see him coming our way.

Another great young wing I'd be ecstatic to make a move for would be Thaddeus Young, he's got such an efficient game, and with adding the 3-ball like he seems to have done this offseason he's got the potential to be an absolute star SF (I already think he's in the same conversation with Durant as far as last years rookie class goes, and if he keeps up what he's started this year I think he's got the potential to be hands down the better of the two). But I can't think of any really likely scenarios where Philly would be willing to part with what looks to be an up and coming allstar.


Those would be nice additions, only problem is thier already part of thier respective teams futures.
 
Just to throw this out there....with his contract up at seasons end, how would Allen Iverson work with the Blazers?
 
I just don't see it realistic that we trade away Blake, Outlaw and Frye for Wallace. Three guys who are what they are, solid role players with no upside from where they currently are as players for a guy who's already a star. It just doesn't make sense. I also don't think thats the way it would go down because we wouldn't have a point guard that could start now. Sergio is a solid bench player that brings spark, but by no means ready to start against top level PG's in the league. Bayless is definitely not ready to play the point, he's never played consistently at the position and his point guard skills are unknown.
 
As mentioned from Blazersedge, this trade also works under the cap (and consolidates at the same time)

To Portland:

Gerald Wallace

To Charlotte:

Travis Outlaw
Steve Blake
Channing Frye

I'll also mention that I like Wallace and when you factor in Paul Allen, he'd be a great pickup.

That seems like an excellent deal for you guys, and something the money-conscious Bobbies would consider. I don't think it's at all "too much" to give up. Basically you're giving up three bench guys for a very high quality starter.

The only downside I see is that on the shooting front, I agree he's not the ideal complement to your existing guys. But he does give you a different look, and you've got alternate solutions to a spot up shooter. I'd expect at least one of Bayless, Fernandez and Webster are going to come through as a pretty good one.

But if you really want a shooter, Andres Nocioni is shooting 40% from behind the arc this year. :)
 
Individually I love Wallace's game, the D and the hustle/slashing role he plays is a lot of fun to watch. But as far as a piece of the starting unit I don't see him fitting so well with this team, with his lack of outside shooting and what I hope will be more of an inside-out game once Greg is healthy and adjusted.

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The trouble is even with Greg healthy we're still mostly a perimeter oriented team, and once Oden comes back he can't be expected to shoulder the entire load inside the paint (though Lamarcus has shown much more of a post game lately which is nice).

Frankly, I think with Martell coming back as a zone buster, Rudy's great outside shooting, and Brandon's excellent mid-range game I think we've got more than enough jump shooting with this team.

I don't know how realistic it would be, but I'd do this in a second:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...016~1026&teams=30~30~30~30~22~22~22&te=&cash=
 
The trouble is even with Greg healthy we're still mostly a perimeter oriented team, and once Oden comes back he can't be expected to shoulder the entire load inside the paint (though Lamarcus has shown much more of a post game lately which is nice).

Frankly, I think with Martell coming back as a zone buster, Rudy's great outside shooting, and Brandon's excellent mid-range game I think we've got more than enough jump shooting with this team.

I don't know how realistic it would be, but I'd do this in a second:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...016~1026&teams=30~30~30~30~22~22~22&te=&cash=

I would do that trade but I really doubt the Bobcats would even think about that right now.
 
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Fine, that makes everyone on your team off limits, so there are no trades that can possibly be made by any team with the Portland Trail Blazers...that is the team, that according to my power rankings, is currently the 27th best team in this season, only ahead of the Kings, Clippers, and Wizards.

All trade talk aside...your power rankings are broken if you have Portland 27th.
 
The trouble is even with Greg healthy we're still mostly a perimeter oriented team, and once Oden comes back he can't be expected to shoulder the entire load inside the paint (though Lamarcus has shown much more of a post game lately which is nice).

Frankly, I think with Martell coming back as a zone buster, Rudy's great outside shooting, and Brandon's excellent mid-range game I think we've got more than enough jump shooting with this team.

I don't know how realistic it would be, but I'd do this in a second:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...016~1026&teams=30~30~30~30~22~22~22&te=&cash=

I hate to admit it but Barkely is right, we need to stop relying on the jump shot. We need more penetration something Wallace could give us. BTW it's been mentioned several times that Martels new contract actually makes him easier to trade. If Charlotte wants to trade with us I could see them waiting for Martel to come back from injury before trading Wallace to us. I would prefer to keep Martel but management seems to have a love affair for Travis so maybe Websters the odd guy out and we get Adam Morrison (YUCK!) in the trade. The sacrifice we make to get Wallace.
 
As mentioned from Blazersedge, this trade also works under the cap (and consolidates at the same time)

To Portland:

Gerald Wallace

To Charlotte:

Travis Outlaw
Steve Blake
Channing Frye

crossing my fingers, those guys are all more LB guys than Wallace (save Outlaw perhaps...and it saves Charlotte some money, but this would really make Roy make the leap to PG (which I'm fine with really).

Roy(34)/Sergio(14)
Bayless(20)/Ferandez(28)
Webster(24)/Wallace(20)
Aldridge(32)/Wallace(16)
Oden/Pryzbilla

and Batum as the guy if anyone is hurt. I like it a lot, everyone knows their role, less drama, tons of athleticism.
 
I just don't see it realistic that we trade away Blake, Outlaw and Frye for Wallace. Three guys who are what they are, solid role players with no upside from where they currently are as players for a guy who's already a star. It just doesn't make sense. I also don't think thats the way it would go down because we wouldn't have a point guard that could start now. Sergio is a solid bench player that brings spark, but by no means ready to start against top level PG's in the league. Bayless is definitely not ready to play the point, he's never played consistently at the position and his point guard skills are unknown.

it saves them a lot of dough too though and if wallace doesn't fit in, it's 50 million dollars worth of player that doesn't fit in.
 
Originally Posted by Fez View Post
As mentioned from Blazersedge, this trade also works under the cap (and consolidates at the same time)

To Portland:

Gerald Wallace

To Charlotte:

Travis Outlaw
Steve Blake
Channing Frye

Man sign me up for this one!! I would love to do that.

Sergio\Bayless\*Roy
Roy\Rudy\*Bayless
*Wallace\Webster\Batum
LMA\*Wallace\Ike
Oden\Joel\S-Bo

I really like that lineup!
 
crossing my fingers, those guys are all more LB guys than Wallace (save Outlaw perhaps...and it saves Charlotte some money, but this would really make Roy make the leap to PG (which I'm fine with really).

Roy(34)/Sergio(14)
Bayless(20)/Ferandez(28)
Webster(24)/Wallace(20)
Aldridge(32)/Wallace(16)
Oden/Pryzbilla

and Batum as the guy if anyone is hurt. I like it a lot, everyone knows their role, less drama, tons of athleticism.

I think you're assigning way too few minutes to the starters and Rudy, this is a more likely distribution in my opinion (without the clearly defined PG, SG roles)
Roy (37) Rudy (34) Sergio and Bayless (25)
Wallace (25) Webster (18) Batum (5)
LMA (37) Wallace (10) Diogu and Randolph (5)
Greg (30) Joel (18)
 
I like the trade buy WHO is our backup PF? - Ike does not get it done for me. I think we need to keep Frye or TO.
 
I like the trade buy WHO is our backup PF? - Ike does not get it done for me. I think we need to keep Frye or TO.

Wallace might pick up some spot minutes at the 4 (in smaller lineups) and Diogu is probably OK for a few spot minutes here or there. You can't expect starter quality production from all of your reserves.
 
You have to think about down the road when Wallace is making $10+ million we still have to resign Brandon Roy, LaMarcus Aldridge, and Greg Oden to long-term deals.

Why do you care? It's not your money.

Paul Allen is currently paying $30 million to Steve Francis and Raef Lafrentz to stay the hell away from our team.

For Gerald Wallace? I'm guessing he'd be willing to fork over $11 million per year with no second thoughts.
 
The only downside I see is that on the shooting front, I agree he's not the ideal complement to your existing guys. But he does give you a different look, and you've got alternate solutions to a spot up shooter.

Honestly, more shooting is the last thing we need. What we really need is someone who takes it to the basket hard and draws fouls. Roy can do this, but ends up settling for jump shots a lot (but makes them, so hard to complain there). Really, Wallace would be a great solution to this.
 
With Brandon, Rudy, and Lamarcus on the floor we don't need to have a shooter at the 3.

I don't want to give up both Frye and Outlaw though. No. No. No.

Why isn't couldn't the following work?

Lafrentz, Frye, and Blake

Lafrentz, Frye, and Bayless (I would expect another quality player back)

Lafrentz, Frye, and Webster (same here)
 
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