Portland trying to get PAUL MILLSAP!

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It is definitly. The Blazers bench would have been much better with more physicality on it. But at this point, with Bargiani getting 10 million, I just don't really know if Milsap is worth it. He is better than Bargiani, so he would have to get more than that. That would be over 1/5 of your salary going to your backup PF. I could see that situation being like the John "Hot Rod" Williams situation from years ago. Hot Rod Williams was a good player, and got a huge contract, but he was kind of like "Sheed". Overpaid for the production you get out of him. Top tier money for a tier 2 player.

I disagree. First of all, I don't think Milsap will get an average of $10M per season. If OKC isn't willing to spend the money on a large contract for him, and Utah can't afford to match, I really believe a 5year/$45Mish deal is what we can get him at.

This would preclude Joel being traded eventually. A future frontcourt making $32M to $35M is worth it IMO.
 
I disagree. First of all, I don't think Milsap will get an average of $10M per season. If OKC isn't willing to spend the money on a large contract for him, and Utah can't afford to match, I really believe a 5year/$45Mish deal is what we can get him at.

This would preclude Joel being traded eventually. A future frontcourt making $32M to $35M is worth it IMO.

No way. Becuase if he came that cheap, Utah would be stupid to not sign him, wait a year for Boozer to come off the books normally, and just ride it out. That is cheap. Why wouldn't they match then? They would only be over the cap for one year.
 
could you imagine our toughness if we somehow got Millsap AND Wallace!?!??!
 
No way. Becuase if he came that cheap, Utah would be stupid to not sign him, wait a year for Boozer to come off the books normally, and just ride it out. That is cheap. Why wouldn't they match then? They would only be over the cap for one year.

thats only 9 million, 1 mill per season less than the 10 Mill mentioned before. So in essense only 2 mill cheaper for Utah.
 
No way. Becuase if he came that cheap, Utah would be stupid to not sign him, wait a year for Boozer to come off the books normally, and just ride it out. That is cheap. Why wouldn't they match then? They would only be over the cap for one year.

That might be cheap for us, but not for Utah. Do you realize even paying him that relatively cheaper contract, they're still on the hook for an additional $10M in luxury tax over his salary?!

They can't free up salary because there's no one left to absorb Boozer's contract. We aren't going to do it. I don't think OKC or MEM will do it, not with their most recent moves this and public statements.

Utah is fucked!
 
thats only 9 million, 1 mill per season less than the 10 Mill mentioned before. So in essense only 2 mill cheaper for Utah.

Yes, but I don't think many hear understand that Boozer really isn't welcome in Utah anymore. He pretty much went out of his way to burn bridges there with his public comments. This isn't all about money, it's who they want to be there playing. They want Milsap, not Boozer. They want to find a way to get that done. Not a way to let him re sign somewhere else.
 
The whole point is to force Utah to do a 3-way with Boozer
I thought that sort of stuff was frowned upon in Utah... or do they have some sort of polygamist's exception?

STOMP
 
Yes, but I don't think many hear understand that Boozer really isn't welcome in Utah anymore. He pretty much went out of his way to burn bridges there with his public comments. This isn't all about money, it's who they want to be there playing. They want Milsap, not Boozer. They want to find a way to get that done. Not a way to let him re sign somewhere else.

yes but unfortunately (for them) they need help in doing all that. Portland would have no incentive to help them do that. So they gotta find help from another team. OKC would have no reason to do so either I believe. and Memphis has already helped another team lol.
 
I thought that sort of stuff was frowned upon in Utah... or do they have some sort of polygamist's exception?

STOMP

LOL nice
 
Just have a question for folks:
If we extend Roy and Aldridge now, does that impact our ability to sign Millsap to a five-year contract?
 
Just have a question for folks:
If we extend Roy and Aldridge now, does that impact our ability to sign Millsap to a five-year contract?

dont believe so no. Cause wouldnt how much money we can give him be irrelevant.. as we would have his Bird Rights?
 
Thought so.. some idiots on O-Live think if we extend Roy and Aldridge, then we can only offer Millsap a one-year deal because Roy and LMA would take up our future cap space.. It didn't make sense to me at all.
 
dont believe so no. Cause wouldnt how much money we can give him be irrelevant.. as we would have his Bird Rights?

Nope it did in the past, but now when you sign extensions, it doesn't take effect on salary cap until the following year.
 
Thought so.. some idiots on O-Live think if we extend Roy and Aldridge, then we can only offer Millsap a one-year deal because Roy and LMA would take up our future cap space.. It didn't make sense to me at all.

lol Jet?
 
Nope it did in the past, but now when you sign extensions, it doesn't take effect on salary cap until the following year.

right.. but it wouldnt affect the years we can offer him correct?
 
If this fails, Bass will already be signed by the time the 10-days are over.

Not necessarily. Portland could discreetly let Bass' agent know that if the Millsap deal falls through, Portland would have interest in Bass. Then, unless a take-it-immediately-or-leave-it deal comes along in those 10 days, Bass and his agent would have an incentive not to sign too quickly....an extra buyer with a lot of cap room.
 
Ugh oh well.. I just hate O-Live. So many stupid people who don't know anything.

lol it has its characters. There are a select group of really good posters over there, who I wish would come over. But some idiots yes lol.
 
This whole thing is a not very obvious attempt to cow Utah into doing the Boozer trade that could net us a Gerald Wallace.

The Blazers don't really want Millsap if we could get a starting SF instead. But threatening to make the offer drives Utah to the table, since they want Millsap more than they want Boozer, and they don't want to pony up $9 million for Millsap.

For them, it is a simple problem: either

1: Deal Boozer for BIG cap relief, or
2: Keep Boozer *and* Millsap at an extravagant cost, or
3: Watch Millsap leave with nothing to show for him.

As long as KP makes the threat credible (he'll follow through with the bluff), then Utah has every reason to choose door 1, and voila! Portland has a Boozer we can trade for a Gerald Wallace or Caron Butler kind of talent. *That* is what the game is, folks. So don't get too worked up about how Millsap will find minutes here.

BTW, this explains why Millsap is willing to play the game as well. The most likely outcome is that Boozer gets traded, giving Millsap the starting role outright. The other outcome is that Millsap has turned an MLE into $9 million per year (whether he plays for Utah or Portland). He wins either way, so he says he is thrilled to play for Portland as a backup PF.

iWatas
that's a great summary of the situation. This Millsap offer (or just the rumor of it) is all about killing Utah's leverage with Boozer and trying to force them to use us as a facilitator.
 

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