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Exactly! We don't even know if Nurkic can stay healthy.
Porzingis is the model for today's Center position. I like Nurkic, but Porzingis is a better matchup against the Warriors.

Porzingis may or may not be better overall than Nurk, but a better match up against the Warriors? I would think a center who is more physical and likes to play down low would be more effective than a center who often plays on the perimeter like Porzingis. The Warriors like to go small, and Green could probably cover Porzingis on the perimeter, at least more than he can cover Nurk down low. You can't beat the Warriors at their own game IMO.
 
Porzingis may or may not be better overall than Nurk, but a better match up against the Warriors? I would think a center who is more physical and likes to play down low would be more effective than a center who often plays on the perimeter like Porzingis. The Warriors like to go small, and Green could probably cover Porzingis on the perimeter, at least more than he can cover Nurk down low. You can't beat the Warriors at their own game IMO.

Totally agree. Porzingis is a better match-up against the Warriors.....if you are playing their game. But you aren't going to beat them at their game so I completely believe you have to be bigger and stronger while being able to defend.
 
Porzingis may or may not be better overall than Nurk, but a better match up against the Warriors? I would think a center who is more physical and likes to play down low would be more effective than a center who often plays on the perimeter like Porzingis. The Warriors like to go small, and Green could probably cover Porzingis on the perimeter, at least more than he can cover Nurk down low. You can't beat the Warriors at their own game IMO.

Oh, and when GS goes small ball you're telling me Nurkic can cover Green or Durant??
You are making the same mistake OKC did against Miami in the finals a few years back.

Even Shaq ,the most dominant big guy ever, lost the Lakers a series because the Pistons repeatedly put him in a pick and roll with Billups and Hamilton. He was too big and slow to defend their backcourt.

You can't beat the Warriors at their own game, but you start by adding guys who can match up with them defensively.
 
Oh, and when GS goes small ball you're telling me Nurkic can cover Green or Durant??
You are making the same mistake OKC did against Miami in the finals a few years back.

Even Shaq ,the most dominant big guy ever, lost the Lakers a series because the Pistons repeatedly put him in a pick and roll with Billups and Hamilton. He was too big and slow to defend their backcourt.

You can't beat the Warriors at their own game, but you start by adding guys who can match up with them defensively.
Yes
 
Nurkic is mobile and fleet of foot - there's nobody his size that could do a better job guarding Green. Vonleh is also built to defend guys like Green but switch onto Durant/Klay when necessary. Vonleh's switch defense was the brightest part of his game this past season.
 
Oh, and when GS goes small ball you're telling me Nurkic can cover Green or Durant??
You are making the same mistake OKC did against Miami in the finals a few years back.

Even Shaq ,the most dominant big guy ever, lost the Lakers a series because the Pistons repeatedly put him in a pick and roll with Billups and Hamilton. He was too big and slow to defend their backcourt.

You can't beat the Warriors at their own game, but you start by adding guys who can match up with them defensively.

You think Porzingis can cover Green or Durant when they go small? Neither of them can. What I am suggesting is slow the game down and have Nurk punish Green down low. The Warriors are better perimeter defenders than they are defending down low. I admit neither scenario would probably end well for us, but I do think it is better than trying to play a center on the perimeter while on offense.

If you really wanted to match up with them defensively........neither Nurk or Porzingis would even be on the floor.
 
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Phil Jackson also basically confirmed in an interview they're shopping KP. Sounds like he's gone to the highest bidder....
 


Phil Jackson also basically confirmed in an interview they're shopping KP. Sounds like he's gone to the highest bidder....

wonder if he might lose his job over this? IMO he should if rumors true
 
wonder if he might lose his job over this? IMO he should if rumors true

I was just getting ready to say that unless he gets something amazing in return (which he won't since he just lost all his power) then I don't know how he doesnt get fired
 
I was just getting ready to say that unless he gets something amazing in return (which he won't since he just lost all his power) then I don't know how he doesnt get fired

Fired by whom? Dolan? LOL
 
Even if Porzingis stays, new york is gonna go ape shit tomorrow
 
Phil Jackson is really that salty that Porzingis skipped the exit interview....jesus
 


Phil Jackson also basically confirmed in an interview they're shopping KP. Sounds like he's gone to the highest bidder....


They want a top 4 plus a starter
 
How's this guy going to come back next season if they don't get what they want? Phil will pretty much have to be fired, right?
 
omg
I'm in shock.

Phil is acting like George Costanza out there, trying to get fired so he would still get his money.
If KP trade doesnt work, this is Phil with the Knicks 1970 championship trophy:
 


Which probably means their price is not very high. Oklahoma will obviously not give them Westbrook and their remaining assets are not better than what we could offer.
 
I think Dame or CJ for KP is on Neil's mind.
I know we all love Dame and CJ, but this is the kind of things a GM just has to do.

I'd do everything possible to get him here without sacrificing either. New York seem desperate. Package all picks we have, Harkless, Crabbe, whoever teams deem to have any value.
 
I'd do everything possible to get him here without sacrificing either. New York seem desperate. Package all picks we have, Harkless, Crabbe, whoever teams deem to have any value.

Would you accept this package for CJ ?
 
Would you accept this package for CJ ?
Three picks and a player or two? Not a chance because CJ is known quality. However New York seem stupid to even want to shop Porzingis, so who knows.

I'd do CJ + #15 for Porzingis + #8. Honestly.
 

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