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riverman said:
dude....I'm not important enough to become the topic here...stop making it about me...
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Riiiight... I'm making it about you... No. It's about what you said. And what you said was foul IDC if it was about a terrorist or not. The fact that you can't see what you said was foul says much more...
 
dviss1 said:
Riiiight... I'm making it about you... No. It's about what you said. And what you said was foul IDC if it was about a terrorist or not. The fact that you can't see what you said was foul says much more...
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wrong.....I vented...admittedly....you're pork sensitive? I also said fried in radioactive waste....yep....you are fishing my friend... fuck that terrorist...
 
riverman said:
wrong.....I vented...admittedly....you're pork sensitive? I also said fried in radioactive waste....yep....you are fishing my friend... fuck that terrorist...
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You're right fuck him. But fuck all Muslims? Those pork eschewing bastards...
 
riverman said:
wrong.....I vented...admittedly....you're pork sensitive? I also said fried in radioactive waste....yep....you are fishing my friend... fuck that terrorist...
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If you can't see what you said was about ALL muslims....
 
MFs in here get butthurt if someone says something about ALL white people but folks can say shit about ALL Muslims and nothing is said...

FUCKING.

BULL.

SHIT.
 
The thread was about a Muslim who committed an act of terror. It's not about ALL Muslims and making unfunny jokes about all of them is akin to racism. I don't think Riverman is that way hence my statement about him being better than his statement.

Buuuuut... MFs don't give a fuck. They will be the way they are. Bodyman, nate, cippy, all these cats are ok with this shit. I'm not.
 
dviss1 said:
If you can't see what you said was about ALL muslims....
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I disagree with your interpretation of riverman's initial post. I think it is possible to make reference to an individual's religion--even in a derogatory fashion--without that reference being derogatory to the entire religion or all adherent's thereto.

For example, if someone suggested that a "Christian" neo-nazi domestic terrorist should be tattooed with a star of David and a "666" before being executed, I wouldn't take that as a referendum on all Christians, but as a desire for that particular person to suffer a fate that he would consider an ultimate indignity. I viewed riverman's post in the same light.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I disagree with your interpretation of riverman's initial post. I think it is possible to make reference to an individual's religion--even in a derogatory fashion--without that reference being derogatory to the entire religion or all adherent's thereto.

For example, if someone suggested that a "Christian" neo-nazi domestic terrorist should be tattooed with a star of David and a "666" before being executed, I wouldn't take that as a referendum on all Christians, but as a desire for that particular person to suffer a fate that he would consider an ultimate indignity. I viewed riverman's post in the same light.
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That's not remotely the same thing. He stereotypically referred to the Muslim as one who didn't want to smell like pork on the way to heaven. Not sure how that can be construed any other way.
 
dviss1 said:
That's not remotely the same thing. He stereotypically referred to the Muslim as one who didn't want to smell like pork on the way to heaven. Not sure how that can be construed any other way.
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I don't know the Quran, so I don't know if there's any accuracy in riverman's statement. Do you know whether or not there's any indication in Islam as to how exposure to "unclean" animals immediately before death would impact ones afterlife? If so, wouldn't his statement, though "stereotypical", actually be truthful?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I don't know the Quran, so I don't know if there's any accuracy in riverman's statement. Do you know whether or not there's any indication in Islam as to how exposure to "unclean" animals immediately before death would impact ones afterlife? If so, wouldn't his statement, though "stereotypical", actually be truthful?
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Again, if the terrorist was black would he not want to smell like chicken and watermelon on his way to heaven?
 
dviss1 said:
Again, if the terrorist was black would he not want to smell like chicken and watermelon on his way to heaven?
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This is a massive false equivalency: I don't believe there's any edict present in black culture that consuming chicken or watermelon would prevent entrance into heaven, which is what riverman was saying about the muslim terrorist encountering pork prior to heading into the afterlife.

Again, his statement suggested a desire for him to endure a punishment that would (presumably) deny him the very fate he sought to attain. It wasn't solely steeped in racial stereotype; it was based in religious practice and disciplinary irony (which was also the basis of my "mark of the beast on a Christian's forehead" corollary example). I'm sorry that you don't see the difference, but I certainly do.
 
dviss1 said:
Again, if the terrorist was black would he not want to smell like chicken and watermelon on his way to heaven?
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Add grape soda and menthols and we have a deal. I'm with you on this topic, by the way. It seems that people can get real racist after an event. It's like a light switch.
 
theprunetang said:
Add grape soda and menthols and we have a deal. I'm with you on this topic, by the way. It seems that people can get real racist after an event. It's like a light switch.
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I would also dispute the notion of racism in riverman's statement. If the terrorist had been white, the post would have been no less applicable to the situation. Religion and race are two very different things.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I would also dispute the notion of racism in riverman's statement. If the terrorist had been white, the post would have been no less applicable to the situation. Religion and race are two very different things.
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If the terrorist had been white we would have talked about his mental health and then posted conspiracies that there was a 2nd truck and driver.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I would also dispute the notion of racism in riverman's statement. If the terrorist had been white, the post would have been no less applicable to the situation. Religion and race are two very different things.
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Yeah no. We'll certainly disagree here. And I never called it racist. I called it stereotypical which is akin to racism. Grouping a demographic together and attributing something to them is just that.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
If the terrorist had been white we would have talked about his mental health and then posted conspiracies that there was a 2nd driver.
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As a society, that's probably true. But I'm talking about riverman individually, not America collectively. I wouldn't attribute that tendency to him.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
As a society, that's probably true. But I'm talking about riverman individually, not America collectively. I wouldn't attribute that tendency to him.
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Which is why I said:

You're better than that.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
As a society, that's probably true. But I'm talking about riverman individually, not America collectively. I wouldn't attribute that tendency to him.
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But Riverman does drive a truck.

I better check his recent IP addresses to see if he was in NY.
 
dviss1 said:
The thread was about a Muslim who committed an act of terror. It's not about ALL Muslims and making unfunny jokes about all of them is akin to racism. I don't think Riverman is that way hence my statement about him being better than his statement.

Buuuuut... MFs don't give a fuck. They will be the way they are. Bodyman, nate, cippy, all these cats are ok with this shit. I'm not.
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Yayayayayayayayayaya. It worked. Haven't posted in at least a week but KNEW I could get Dviss mad just by liking posts.

Talk about a snowflake. Haha
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Yayayayayayayayayaya. It worked. Haven't posted in at least a week but KNEW I could get Dviss mad just by liking posts.

Talk about a snowflake. Haha
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Just because I post in opposition to you, or call you out on something, doesn't mean I'm mad. Assume much?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
If the terrorist had been white we would have talked about his mental health and then posted conspiracies that there was a 2nd truck and driver.
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This. If a killer is white, the narrative is always about mental health. Did he have Aspergers, Autism? Was the government secretly helping him? When it's a black man, they are already dead. They get shot for being black in a car. For playing with toy guns. For having hoodies on. For anything.

When the killer is a Muslim the narrative turns to dark shit. I hope he's raped with a pork dick while he dies. And people applaud that.
 
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