Post-deadline Olshey Keep or Fire

[BonesJones]

Meant to say "keep or fire?" lol

Just wanna see where the forum stands on this buffoon.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Keep him through the draft as I like him there. But then beyond that I don't care much one way or another. I think we could do a lot worse but possibly better.

 

[illmatic99]

Wanted him gone before, want him gone now. I'm increasingly coming around to the idea of Chauncey Billups as a replacement. And I hate the idea of big name players in the front office, but the way he talks about teams on NBA TV has me convinced that he can do well.

 

[ripcityboy]

My guess is this is going to be our most one sided post ever. Kind of like asking if Nickelback is your favorite band.

 

[blue9]

Keep him through the draft as I like him there. But then beyond that I don't care much one way or another. I think we could do a lot worse but possibly better.

I'll be mildly surprised if he's not fired before the draft.
I'll be SHOCKED if he's not fired immediately after the draft if he doesn't make a huge change to the roster on draft day.
Draft day is the absolute drop dead date, IMO - he certainly doesn't deserve another Free Agency period.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Fire his ass. Ultimately, however, that doesn't matter because the problem starts with Paul Allen.

God I hate being a mediocre "good, but not great" team. Being stuck in the middle is purgatory for a small market basketball team like ours.

 

[Minstrel]

My usual stance: keep him until you've lined up a better option. I don't think Olshey is a terribly great GM, but I do think you can do worse, so this isn't a "get rid of him at all costs" situation.

 

[e_blazer]

Yeah, this is the day for a nice unbiased poll.

 

[illmatic99]

Keep him through the draft as I like him there. But then beyond that I don't care much one way or another. I think we could do a lot worse but possibly better.

There are at least 5 players I would rather have than Zach Collins. Not sure he's such a great drafter if you remove Dame/CJ/Deandre.

He's the guy who picked Aminu with the 8th pick when Gordon Hayward went 9th, and Paul George went 10th. Why is that not part of his drafting legacy when we laud praises for Dame/CJ?

 

[AFully22]

Look at the roster and salary situation when he was hired and then look at where it is today. That’s all he should be judged on. I don’t care about circumstantial factors, a good GM shows a clear plan and path towards improvement and I see none past buying into the Collins hype. I’d give him till draft day to make something happen then he’s gone.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm tired of draft picks. We didn't need two more rookies last summer. That was a huge mistake in my opinion. Neither one of those guys were ready to step in right away and contribute.

 

[ripcityboy]

I'm tired of draft picks. We didn't need two more rookies last summer. That was a huge mistake in my opinion. Neither one of those guys were ready to step in right away and contribute.

It's becoming more and more apparent that the whole goal has been for a while to throw in towel over the next couple of years. Which is kind of sad, but also, understandable. I just want to know is when did Olshey realize he had MASSIVELY screwed up.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I'm tired of draft picks. We didn't need two more rookies last summer. That was a huge mistake in my opinion. Neither one of those guys were ready to step in right away and contribute.

We haven't had one in 4 years until Zach. who were you tired of?

 

[BonesJones]

My usual stance: keep him until you've lined up a better option. I don't think Olshey is a terribly great GM, but I do think you can do worse, so this isn't a "get rid of him at all costs" situation.

Trajan Langdon.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Look at the roster and salary situation when he was hired and then look at where it is today. That’s all he should be judged on. I don’t care about circumstantial factors, a good GM shows a clear plan and path towards improvement and I see none past buying into the Collins hype. I’d give him till draft day to make something happen then he’s gone.

You just called into the Dwight Jaynes/Aaron Fentress radio show to say this exact thing, didn't you?

 

[Chris Craig]

Blazers should just start interviewing for a new GM, let it be known that they are. Then wait to fire Neil till just before they hire the new guy. Hell bring prospectives into Neils office and out loud, ignoring Neil who is sitting behind his desk, tell them this would be your office...

 

[Natebishop3]

We haven't had one in 4 years until Zach. who were you tired of?

We haven't had our own picks, sure, but we have still traded for rookies pretty consistently.

Collins (R)
Swanigan (R)
Layman (1 year)
Connaughton (2 years)

Who is the last draft pick that we either picked or traded for that has actually been a major contributor on the team?

CJ?

 

[AFully22]

You just called into the Dwight Jaynes/Aaron Fentress radio show to say this exact thing, didn't you?

Absofuckinlutely

 

[KeepOnRollin]

There are at least 5 players I would rather have than Zach Collins. Not sure he's such a great drafter if you remove Dame/CJ/Deandre.

He's the guy who picked Aminu with the 8th pick when Gordon Hayward went 9th, and Paul George went 10th. Why is that not part of his drafting legacy when we laud praises for Dame/CJ?

EVERY GM has these. Even the great Jerry West. He took Devean George over Andrei Kirilenko and Sam Jacobson (who?) over Rashard Lewis. My opinion is if you don't get a certified bust (Aminu is not a bust, I talking players out of the league after 4 years) then you are doing good as a GM. I not saying he is some god. But he is way better than the average GM at drafting.

 

[Minstrel]

Trajan Langdon.

You named a replacement. Not necessarily a better one. What evidence is there that Langdon is a good GM prospect?

 

[tester551]

Blazers should just start interviewing for a new GM, let it be known that they are. Then wait to fire Neil till just before they hire the new guy. Hell bring prospectives into Neils office and out loud, ignoring Neil who is sitting behind his desk, tell them this would be your office...

If you do that, you might as well fire him. I wouldn't want to interview for a team that was treating their employees that way.

 

[Propagandist]

I think he's done a great job. (Is that how you do it?)

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I think he's done a great job. (Is that how you do it?)

Flawless.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Meant to say "keep or fire?" lol

Set on fire would be better.

 

[Chris Craig]

I think he's done a great job. (Is that how you do it?)

Your a natural

 

[TBpup]

MASSIVE misses on talent evaluation both in players he signed and in ones that got away like Hibbert and Parsons. Tied to closely to most of the players he drafts and I've yet to see a really good trade out of him. The Nurkic deal looked great last year but not nearly so good anymore.

 

[Natebishop3]

MASSIVE misses on talent evaluation both in players he signed and in ones that got away like Hibbert and Parsons. Tied to closely to most of the players he drafts and I've yet to see a really good trade out of him. The Nurkic deal looked great last year but not nearly so good anymore.

I agree about Parsons, but I will argue until the cows come home about Hibbert.

We have no idea if Hibbert would have self destructed the way that he did if he had come to Portland instead of staying in Indy. From what we've heard, Hibbert went from a DPOY caliber talent to a total joke after some things happened involving his teammates in Indy. There's no guarantee that would have happened if he had been a Blazer.

 

[illmatic99]

EVERY GM has these. Even the great Jerry West. He took Devean George over Andrei Kirilenko and Sam Jacobson (who?) over Rashard Lewis. My opinion is if you don't get a certified bust (Aminu is not a bust, I talking players out of the league after 4 years) then you are doing good as a GM. I not saying he is some god. But he is way better than the average GM at drafting.

Not denying that, but we often bring up his drafting and talent evaluation as a reason to keep him. His record ain't that stellar in that aspect either.

 

[illmatic99]

I agree about Parsons, but I will argue until the cows come home about Hibbert.

We have no idea if Hibbert would have self destructed the way that he did if he had come to Portland instead of staying in Indy. From what we've heard, Hibbert went from a DPOY caliber talent to a total joke after some things happened involving his teammates in Indy. There's no guarantee that would have happened if he had been a Blazer.

The game passed him by and made him obsolete. League went even more 3pt heavy and GS started playing a mobile 6'7 guy a C. Took him completely out when he wasn't free to roam away from the likes of Joel Anthony to guard the rim.

 

[Natebishop3]

The game passed him by and made him obsolete. League went even more 3pt heavy and GS started playing a mobile 6'7 guy a C. Took him completely out when he wasn't free to roam away from the likes of Joel Anthony to guard the rim.

His contract ran out just as that was becoming prominent. Warriors won their first title in 2014-2015.

The first year of the deal was 2012-2013 and the last year was 2015-2016.