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I love Bona's athleticism for his size. Could be a good #3 PF/C for rebounding and interior def. Has the quickness to be able to switch onto guards and keep them in front.
Same with Onyensu, but he needs to beef up some so he doesn't get pushed around.
I just don't get the love for Tyson. He seems very average, especially in the NBA.
Tyson could be really good. Elite handles at 6'7," crafty around the basket, good outside shot. He passes the eye test for sure.

I do have trouble trying to gauge his impact on the game. The verticality around the basket isn't that impressive, either. Ultimately, I wouldn't be upset if we added him to the pile of wings we're accumulating.
 
Yeah, but these drafts were loaded and people knew it. These players were SUPPOSED to be good. This draft has trash for talent son!
Even the 2000 draft--clearly the worst of the bunch--had a few players who made all-star games, as well as a few others who had solid if unspectacular careers. Nobody in here is expecting the Blazers to draft a HOF player next month, but it's not unreasonable to believe we can get a couple players good enough to start on a contender, and possibly even make an all star game. If Jamaal-freaking-Magloire could do it, someone available at 7 or later in this year's draft can do.
 
The odds clearly favor at least all star from the 2024 draft within the next 10y. To bet otherwise would be fool hardy. I trust charts and graphs son.
 
I love Bona's athleticism for his size. Could be a good #3 PF/C for rebounding and interior def. Has the quickness to be able to switch onto guards and keep them in front.
Same with Onyensu, but he needs to beef up some so he doesn't get pushed around.
I just don't get the love for Tyson. He seems very average, especially in the NBA.
Hmm, that’d be interesting. That would indicate to me that the FO believes Reath is a real backup C. I do prefer Missi because I think having him on the floor is when I think I’d be the most comfortable with DA at PF. But if Bona could ever become a Claxton type of player one day and just live off defense and energy plays for a year or two, I would be fine with him here as well.

I typically like the lotto picks to be do in all players with size, so I’d love to forego a Missi selection for a player with potentially more skills if Bona is a good third string C right away.
 
Tyson could be really good. Elite handles at 6'7," crafty around the basket, good outside shot. He passes the eye test for sure.

I do have trouble trying to gauge his impact on the game. The verticality around the basket isn't that impressive, either. Ultimately, I wouldn't be upset if we added him to the pile of wings we're accumulating.
I think we are getting to a point where we have a lot of good, not great, forwards.

Camara—perfect size and great defense, no shot
Walker—great rebounder and hustle guy, no shot
Murray—good instinctual defender who will be able to handle the ball a bit, hasn’t gotten fully comfortable with his shot yet
Rupert—potential to be a good defender and shooter who can handle the ball a bit, but none of that has translated yet

We don’t have a forward who can be relied on to make plays for others, or shoot the ball. I like Tyson, but if he is a first rounder, I don’t think I’d like him for this team. For all the things that he brings, selecting Castle or Buzelis at #7 would remove all desire for me to want to draft him. I would also prefer George over Tyson, although I’m not sure how far apart they are on everyone’s boards.

To add to our current core of forwards, I’d prefer a do-it-all guy who can really pass (Castle, Buzelis), a really raw high potential guy who can play in the GL for a year to let those other four develop (Salaun), or another prospect with some skill and outrageous measurements (Williams).

Outside of those four, I’d rather wait until next draft to find our blue chip forward.
 
I think we are getting to a point where we have a lot of good, not great, forwards.

Camara—perfect size and great defense, no shot
Walker—great rebounder and hustle guy, no shot
Murray—good instinctual defender who will be able to handle the ball a bit, hasn’t gotten fully comfortable with his shot yet
Rupert—potential to be a good defender and shooter who can handle the ball a bit, but none of that has translated yet

We don’t have a forward who can be relied on to make plays for others, or shoot the ball. I like Tyson, but if he is a first rounder, I don’t think I’d like him for this team. For all the things that he brings, selecting Castle or Buzelis at #7 would remove all desire for me to want to draft him. I would also prefer George over Tyson, although I’m not sure how far apart they are on everyone’s boards.

To add to our current core of forwards, I’d prefer a do-it-all guy who can really pass (Castle, Buzelis), a really raw high potential guy who can play in the GL for a year to let those other four develop (Salaun), or another prospect with some skill and outrageous measurements (Williams).

Outside of those four, I’d rather wait until next draft to find our blue chip forward.
I'm higher on Buzelis than I was during our discussions earlier this year. He has an edge to him I didn't notice. Detroit really likes him, so I'm not sure he falls to us. Castle is maneuvering his way to San Antonio or Washington...maybe that works and we pass on him (I would still take him. Who cares).

That leaves Knecht, Risacher, Salaun and Williams.

I dont like Salaun at #7. I'm less enthused on Williams than I was. I've been considering Knecht more the last couple days. If Risacher gets to that level of offense by age 23, we would be thrilled. By that time, Knecht will be in his prime.

Sam Vecenie just did a 45 min podcast on Risacher's big game that highlights my worries with him. Overrated defense and no ability to create. Everything comes in a straight line. Despite this, he still nails threes with bad footwork. Imagine if he fixes the footwork. He's really a great fit as an off-ball player who can run the floor at 6'9"+

I digress. We're creating a pile of wings that all need development. Knecht would probably start at SF sooner than all of them. Salaun, you throw in the G-League. Risacher gets last year's Rupert treatment. Or, we take Clingan and tank for next year's elite crop of wings. I could go for that, too.
 
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I'm higher on Buzelis than I was during our discussions earlier this year. He has an edge to him I didn't notice. Detroit really likes him, so I'm not sure he falls to us. Castle is maneuvering his way to San Antonio or Washington...maybe that works and we pass on him (I would still take him. Who cares).

I wonder if the hiring of Trajan Langdon as President of operations changes things. Probably not.

Langdon's agent when he played was....... Art Tellem
Arn is Vice Chairman of the Pistons
Matas Buzelis's agent is Michael Tellem, Arn's son.
Senior Director of Pro Scouting/Senior Director of Player Personnel on the Pistons is Eric Tellem, Arn's other son.

Still, I wonder how Bruzelis fits with the Pistons. Do they like Ausar at SF and want Bruzelis at PF?
Are they happy with Ivey or would Sheppard be a better fit next to Cade?
 
I wonder if the hiring of Trajan Langdon as President of operations changes things. Probably not.

Langdon's agent when he played was....... Art Tellem
Arn is Vice Chairman of the Pistons
Matas Buzelis's agent is Michael Tellem, Arn's son.
Senior Director of Pro Scouting/Senior Director of Player Personnel on the Pistons is Eric Tellem, Arn's other son.

Still, I wonder how Bruzelis fits with the Pistons. Do they like Ausar at SF and want Bruzelis at PF?
Are they happy with Ivey or would Sheppard be a better fit next to Cade?
Yeah, I don't like the Buzelis pick for them. Knecht and Risacher make more sense for them.
 
These statements while very possibly true have all the veracity to come back and bite you. Someone from this draft is going to be very good? Maybe even multiple players?
Same could be said about every other post up these days... are you looking to play a very selective game of gotcha? Maybe there is a good reason that we haven't heard the sorts of glass half full comments about the talent in this year's draft class in some time... whatever could that reason be?

What I generally see is that the 2024 prospects who can shoot aren't athletic while the athletes have broken jump shots and are major projects. As far as the top 7 comment, maybe Sarr and/or Risacher crack the top 9 in the last draft but thats about it.

STOMP
 
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Same could be said about every other post up these days... are you looking to play a very selective game of gotcha? Maybe there is a good reason that we haven't heard the sorts of glass half full comments about the talent in this year's draft class in some time... whatever could that reason be?

What I generally see is that the 2024 prospects who can shoot aren't athletic while the athletes have broken jump shots and are major projects. As far as the top 7 comment, maybe Sarr and/or Risacher crack the top 9 in the last draft but thats about it.

STOMP
No Gotcha at all.
It’s just that some are saying it a little too often and maybe with more absolute certainty than I would.
All too many times a player is defined by his attitude rather than his ability in a tryout.
 
So every draft in the past 27 years has been loaded, ok
Oh that’s right….. that’s what I said right? All I said was THIS draft is shit and shouldn’t be over hyped. That’s all. There’s a reason EVERY respected mock is completely different. No player talented enough to stand out….not even at #1! The way Scoot took heat this season, these rookies won’t have to worry about that….they won’t play.
 
So every draft in the past 27 years has been loaded, ok
Oh that’s right….. that’s what I said right? All I said was THIS draft is shit and shouldn’t be over hyped.

Well, let's take a look...

Google Gemini
NBA All-Stars since 1996, sorted by draft year and pick number

[a whole bunch of information]
Yeah, but these drafts were loaded and people knew it. These players were SUPPOSED to be good. This draft has trash for talent son!
Hmm...the guy listed all stars from each and every one of the past 27 drafts, and you replied "these drafts were loaded". So...yeah, that's exactly what you said.
 
No Gotcha at all.
It’s just that some are saying it a little too often and maybe with more absolute certainty than I would.
All too many times a player is defined by his attitude rather than his ability in a tryout.
No gotcha, then whats going to come back to bite him? I doubt he'll spend a down moment on his own if this draft turns out to be a bonanza.

Every time I check in on this thread it seems there is growing optimism about an ever expanding list of players many of which are apparently going to become regular All Stars now. There is nothing wrong with countering this little community's optimism about the draft with the overwhelming opinion of it overall.

STOMP
 
No gotcha, then whats going to come back to bite him? I doubt he'll spend a down moment on his own if this draft turns out to be a bonanza.

Every time I check in on this thread it seems there is growing optimism about an ever expanding list of players many of which are apparently going to become regular All Stars now. There is nothing wrong with countering this little community's optimism about the draft with the overwhelming opinion of it overall.

STOMP
From everything I see yes this draft is poor at best. I’m interested in what they will do. Next years draft seems better. I’m also interested in what happens then.
I’m going to wait it out and hope the Blazers can find a player that fits and will work out for them. I feel if they do their homework and make a couple good picks they could very well do that.
 
Christie is intriguing even though a guard. Also Ajinca is of interest for me.
 
Christie is intriguing even though a guard. Also Ajinca is of interest for me.
Yeah, Christie was the only name on that list that stood out to me.
 
I will note that Ingram has a +7 wingspan and appears to be built like a linebacker, and Johnson had a 42" max-vert and the biggest non-Edey hands at the combine.
 
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All appear to be second rounders or possible undrafted.

19 years old Ajnca 3 and D SF, lots of energy , might go early second round

Christie, 18, 6'5" SG, mocked by Givony to Blazers second round, first pick

Thierry, only 18, was injured some and didn't do much in G league but then went to Basketball without Borders and "Darlan and fellow NBA Academy Africa product Maluach - the projected third pick in the 2025 draft who has signed for Duke - went back and forth in a riveting battle. Maluach posted 29 points and 11 rebounds, but it was Darlan's Bangui who won 101-88 and the homegrown hero contributed 22 points and 10 rebounds."

Hall probably goes undrafted

Ingram, 21 "uses his seven-foot wingspan and defensive instincts to create havoc defensively. He’s both a high-level on-ball stopper and a high-IQ player who perfectly plays the passing lanes as evidenced by his 1.4 steals per game. Ingram pairs his defense with elite rebounding; he averaged 8.8 rebounds at UNC." Weaker on offense.

Johnson, 23, strong defensively 6'7" wing
 
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