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HAAK72 said:
Where's Brian?! I want to hear the official spin :sigh:
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Brian is too little overseas and too much underseas. When he wants to post, the Captain won't surface and radio the satellite. Maybe a mutiny is in order?

I noted earlier in the thread that Germany had decided to close all nuclear energy plants. They have scheduled the shutdowns over the next few years. Since then, Switzerland has done the same. Japan has not only scheduled it--local decisions have already shut down all its plants, reflecting local will. The U.S. nuclear lobby is reduced to running articles like this, extolling small former Communist countries for keeping theirs open.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...ned/?source=hp_dl2_news_nuclear_plant20120510
 
...here is a very fascinating article from excerpts of the book titled "A Primer in the Art of Deception" by Paul Zimmerman:

The field of radiation protection has been heavily infiltrated and compromised by those with a
vested interest in ensuring the proliferation of nuclear and radiological weapons and commercial
nuclear reactors. A politically motivated international system of standard setting agencies,
upholding antiquated models of the biological effects of ionizing radiation, has asserted itself as the
voice of authority in the field of radiation protection. Governments, in turn, depend on the flaws
within these models to legitimize the safety of their nuclear programs and conceal the detrimental
biological effects these programs impart to unsuspecting populations.

At issue is the health effects of low levels of internal emitters, radionuclides absorbed from nuclear
pollution in the environment which undergo radioactive decay while sequestered within the human
body’s interior.

Why is an outdated and inaccurate model of radiation effects promulgated?
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CONTINUED --> http://femalefaust.blogspot.com/2012/05/this-pdf-on-radiation-and-nuclear.html
 
Those piers will get you every time. It's just a matter of time. And it's slow and agonizing.
 
Sure. Let 'em sit around in the dark. At least they don't need to run heaters to stay warm this time of year.
 
Denny Crane said:
Sure. Let 'em sit around in the dark. At least they don't need to run heaters to stay warm this time of year.
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How did the Japanese survive for tens of thousands of years without nuclear reactors to provide their electricity?

It's just one of those mysteries that baffles the great minds of science.
 
MARIS61 said:
How did the Japanese survive for tens of thousands of years without nuclear reactors to provide their electricity?

It's just one of those mysteries that baffles the great minds of science.
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Sure, people can survive without power. Like I said, they sit around in the dark. Not to mention no computers, no refrigerators, much smaller sustainable population, short life expectancy, and so on.

Japan now has a population about 1/2 the US living in an area the size of California.
 
Denny Crane said:
Sure, people can survive without power. Like I said, they sit around in the dark. Not to mention no computers, no refrigerators, much smaller sustainable population, short life expectancy, and so on.

Japan now has a population about 1/2 the US living in an area the size of California.
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Strawman argument as usual. The issue isn't power, it's the needlessness of risking nuclear fallout in order to obtain power that is easily accessible through less dangerous and less costly means.

All those things are available in countries without nuclear power.
 
MARIS61 said:
Strawman argument as usual. The issue isn't power, it's the needlessness of risking nuclear fallout in order to obtain power that is easily accessible through less dangerous and less costly means.

All those things are available in countries without nuclear power.
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It's not easily accessible. OK, it is. They can burn coal or something.
 
Denny, you understand smelly things, living in your wheat field on the outskirts of Chicago, next to the famous stockyards which every visitor is forced to smell while driving into the city. It was 1961, and my nose still wrinkles to this very day. Mile after mile of trying not to inhale...good thing liberals cleaned up the environment. Next time ranchers march a mile-long herd from Texas past your front yard to the killing fields, give them a beefy wave from me.

Anyway, I understand that conservatives don't object to the Godzilla onslaught approaching Oregon because the 1% already smell, and you don't care about us clean middle class God-fearing Oregonians, but maybe we upright standup righteous Westerners can motivate you with selfish gain...those billions of Japanese organisms might reproduce into trillions, and spread like a herd of wildfire bufalo to the Land of the Bulls and wipe out you descendents of Al Capone.
 
I'm not in the top 1% of earners or by wealth.

I grew up there in the 1960s and 1970s, but never noticed any smell from the stockyards. At UofI, though, when the wind was right, the smell from the south farm was odiferous.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/28/us-japan-nuclear-tuna-idUSBRE84R0MF20120528

(Reuters) - Low levels of nuclear radiation from the tsunami-damaged Fukushima power plant have turned up in bluefin tuna off the California coast, suggesting that these fish carried radioactive compounds across the Pacific Ocean faster than wind or water can.

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The amount of radioactive cesium in the fish is not thought to be damaging to people if consumed, the researchers said in a study published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Without making a definitive judgment on the safety of the fish, lead author Daniel Madigan of Stanford University's Hopkins Marine Station noted that the amount of radioactive material detected was far less than the Japanese safety limit.

"I wouldn't tell anyone what's safe to eat or what's not safe to eat," Madigan said in a telephone interview. "It's become clear that some people feel that any amount of radioactivity, in their minds, is bad and they'd like to avoid it. But compared to what's there naturally ... and what's established as safety limits, it's not a large amount at all."
 
We're not going to EAT all that filthy slime in the pictures. It's going to burrow under us, kill the native all-American organisms, and spread out from Oregon to the Midwest, giving our beloved American crops diseases with cheaply made Japanese names. Remember the balloon attacks? Japan may yet win WW2.
 
If the fish who were swimming through the radiated water have barely detectible trace amounts of radiation under their skin, what makes you think we are going to have some worse effect?
 
I feel like this is "denny's" one man show, until porkchop showed up
 
Denny Crane said:
If the fish who were swimming through the radiated water have barely detectible trace amounts of radiation under their skin, what makes you think we are going to have some worse effect?
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Barely detectable = eventually fatal.

There is no safe amount of exposure when it comes to nuclear fallout.
 
But compared to what's there naturally ... and what's established as safety limits, it's not a large amount at all.

Stay out of the sun. You get a dose of radiation from it constantly.
 
Easy to say that in Winnipeg. No one will ever call you a Fukushiman. I'm careful not to call anyone that.
 
Maybe you get it, jlprk. Without radiation, there'd be no life on earth. The sun warms us. The molten core is molten because it's radioactive. Mutation in evolution is caused by radiation. We age and die because of natural radiation. And so on.
 
1300 people?

Yikes.

The tsunami killed 20,000+ people.
 
36% of Fukishima kids have thyroid lumps in their throats. (That's 1 out of 3, for those of you who say that a 59% measure is unpopular because it didn't pass with a 60% supermajority.)

http://enenews.com/telegraph-abnormal-growths-thyroids-36-percent-fukushima-children

The Japanese government says the amazing medical phenomenon wasn't caused by the radiation.

I found it in the Bojack blog in the thread about him. Here's the original Telegraph article.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-diagnosed-with-abnormal-thyroid-growths.html
 
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From your own link:

“We do not know that cause of this, but it is hard to believe that is due to the effects of radiation,” she said. “This is an early test and we will only see the effects of radiation exposure after four or five years.”
 
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