Game Thread PRESEASON GAME # 2: SUNS @ BLAZERS - OCTOBER 7, 2016 - FRIDAY, 7:00 PM (PDT), CSNNW

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BBert said:
Vonleh is a keeper. He's probably the last of our bigs I'd trade, if I could avoid it. He's not our best big today, obviously, but he is very likely to develop into one.
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And Neil knows not to give up on players--people wanted CJ traded instead of Barton. Neil knew which one to stick with--if he keeps Noah then I have the up most confidence in him.
 
HCP said:
Waaaaay to much to read, but I did read the first sentence. The guy I responded to was talking about the bench. The guys that were out there aren't going to be on the court in crunch time is all I was saying. If we are talking about JUST Noah, then hell ya that was great to see. Our front court is loaded, but with injuries and certain situations, Vonleh could help a bunch.
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I read every word of your posts. I like quantity, not quality.

I read every word of his posts because I can also appreciate quality.

You're the yahoo homepage of S2.
 
Boob-No-More said:
Not sure why you feel the need to discount Noah's performance and shit on everyone's enthusiasm. Perhaps because we traded your boy Nic to get Noah?

Whatever the reason, you're wrong. It wasn't like a summer league game. Noah never looked that good in summer league. To me, this is a positive. We played these exact same Phoenix Suns in the summer league and Noah did not dominate them then like he did this time. To me, that shows significant improvement. It means Noah has been putting in the work and it's starting to pay off. That's why people here are excited about his performance, even if it was during the 4th quarter of a meaningless preseason game.

Also, it was a glimpse into the future. Our team is built to contend from now until the end of Damian's prime. Hopefully, that gives us a 5-year window. That means Noah will be 26 or 27 years old and entering the prime of his career as Dame and the "older" players are entering their 30s. A lot of development can happen for a big man between the ages of 21 and 26. Noah may not be a factor this year, but if he continues to work hard and show this kind of improvement, he very well could be 2 or 3 years from now.

We are all about the now and PHO is all about the future. PHO has had three lottery picks in the last two years, we haven't even had a 1st round pick. They have used their draft picks very well and have three teenagers that all look like they are going to be very special players. Good for them. Noah is the closest thing we have to a young lottery pick. Yep, he's older than Chriss, Bender and Booker. Not by that much, but the difference in maturity was clearly on display in that 4th quarter. Chriss was the 8th pick in the draft, insanely athletic and probably should have gone higher, but Noah abused him to the point where it looked like Chriss was going to start crying. It was a clear case of a man vs. a child. Vonleh physically dominated the much more athletic, younger player. Vonleh used his strength and intelligence to trump Chriss' athleticism. 5-5 for 12 points in the quarter. It doesn't get much more efficient than that.

BNM
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You're the board bully, and HCP is the 2nd-best poster here.
 
Ok, who's minutes will Napier get at guard? The kid won't play unless it's a blowout, or somebody gets injured
 
Damn. Boob always says "that" instead of "who" and you type "who's" instead of "whose." This is why no one comes close to me as the best poster here. Close, but no enchilada.
 
jlprk said:
Damn. Boob always says "that" instead of "who" and you type "who's" instead of "whose." This is why no one comes close to me as the best poster here. Close, but no enchilada.
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GOD DAMNIT, I want enchiladas now.
 
HCP said:
Ok, who's minutes will Napier get at guard? The kid won't play unless it's a blowout, or somebody gets injured
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He should get playing time behind both Dame and CJ. Playing either of them with him (when the other one is on the bench) would give us much better ball handling, creativity and the offense would run better
 
Blazer4ever said:
He should get playing time behind both Dame and CJ. Playing either of them with him (when the other one is on the bench) would give us much better ball handling, creativity and the offense would run better
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There is a trickle down effect to that though. If Napier backs up Dame and CJ, then where does ET get his minutes? If you then play ET at SF ....where does Harkless and Crabbe get their minutes?

Napier will get spot duty, but you want ET in the backcourt with either Dame or CJ. It gives us more size. Our defense needs to improve in the back court.
 
Blazer4ever said:
He should get playing time behind both Dame and CJ. Playing either of them with him (when the other one is on the bench) would give us much better ball handling, creativity and the offense would run better
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That sounds all good, but then that means ET isn't on the court. Sorry peeps, I know he's looked good, but he is going to be a practice player. No way AC/ET sit so he can play.
 
HCP said:
That sounds all good, but then that means ET isn't on the court. Sorry peeps, I know he's looked good, but he is going to be a practice player. No way AC/ET sit so he can play.
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I see ET as basically taking Gerald Henderson's minutes from last season...the real trouble with minutes is Mo and Crabbe..I don't know how Stotts will keep them both happy
 
riverman said:
I see ET as basically taking Gerald Henderson's minutes from last season...the real trouble with minutes is Mo and Crabbe..I don't know how Stotts will keep them both happy
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How many min did Henderson average? I have a feeling you'll see ET out there a lot more than we saw Gerald.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
There is a trickle down effect to that though. If Napier backs up Dame and CJ, then where does ET get his minutes? If you then play ET at SF ....where does Harkless and Crabbe get their minutes?

Napier will get spot duty, but you want ET in the backcourt with either Dame or CJ. It gives us more size. Our defense needs to improve in the back court.
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Yep, I've been saying repeatedly since the Turner signing that he gives us a 3rd ball handler/distributor with much needed size. The lack of size is why Roberts and especially Frazier saw so few minutes while here. You simply can't play someone under 6' with either Dame or C.J. for anything other than spot minutes. Our starting back court is undersized by NBA standards, adding Napier to ether Dame or C.J. would make the back court undersized for a high school team.

Turner works with either Dame or C.J. because he can let them play off the ball on the offensive end and guard the opposing SG on the other end. You can't do that with Napier. He's just too small.

But, he's a great practice player. He will go hard at Dame in practice and force him to work harder on defense, which should carry over into the games. He's also cheap insurance in case of an injury. I hate to bring that up, but it's always best to hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

BNM
 
HCP said:
How many min did Henderson average? I have a feeling you'll see ET out there a lot more than we saw Gerald.
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Just under 20 MPG (19.9). Turner will get more playing time because he's more versatile and can play SF, SG and PG. Gerald was strictly a SG,

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
He's also cheap insurance in case of an injury. I hate to bring that up, but it's always best to hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

BNM
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Yes injuries occur. And from what I have seen so far from Napier, I think we can get by with him and ET (or Crabbe for that matter) in the backcourt together off the bench.....if needed.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
There is a trickle down effect to that though. If Napier backs up Dame and CJ, then where does ET get his minutes? If you then play ET at SF ....where does Harkless and Crabbe get their minutes?

Napier will get spot duty, but you want ET in the backcourt with either Dame or CJ. It gives us more size. Our defense needs to improve in the back court.
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I guess if he only backs up Dame, and CJ isn't forced to play PG, that's already an improvement. Then Crabbe and Turner play 2/3 and Harkles and Aminu 3/4.
I've been saying for a while that we need a consolidation trade in the front-court and it's even more relevant with Vonleh's emergence
 
HCP said:
That sounds all good, but then that means ET isn't on the court. Sorry peeps, I know he's looked good, but he is going to be a practice player. No way AC/ET sit so he can play.
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I think you're wrong #23wins.

I'd even be willing to bet you but...............well, you know......
 
HCP said:
How many min did Henderson average? I have a feeling you'll see ET out there a lot more than we saw Gerald.
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well early in the season....zero...he had hip surgery but his minutes increased after the break....he looked ok in the Philly game the other night
 
Blazer4ever said:
I guess if he only backs up Dame, and CJ isn't forced to play PG, that's already an improvement. Then Crabbe and Turner play 2/3 and Harkles and Aminu 3/4.
I've been saying for a while that we need a consolidation trade in the front-court and it's even more relevant with Vonleh's emergence
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Actually I am sure that will happen on occasion against certain teams...... who tend to press.
Like I said before ...spot duty for Napier. Terry will find him some minutes on those long road trips.
 
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