President Obama Cracks Joke About Devastating Texas Wildfires

[PapaG]

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Why not combine the states into one big state?

Seemed to work well for the USSR.

 

[ABM]

Seemed to work well for the USSR.

That's partly because Sarah Palin has had her eye on them....from her porch.

 

[jlprk]

This thread is just yesterday's outrage. What is today's outrage? If you want us Republicans to get out of bed, you gotta come up with a new one every day. Come on, offend me. I need it to live.

 

[Denny Crane]

Seems awfully redundant.

And boring.

Why not combine the states into one big state?

So those evil corporations only have to buy one government? Good plan, not.

 

[Denny Crane]

20 million.

not even a 10th of our population base.

Close to California in population.

But mook is impressed by land area, which was the point.

 

[mook]

Australia banned the use of firearms for self-defense purposes. You can only own a gun if you apply to the state, prove you have a responsible way to store it, and show that you need it for something like hunting. Check out their classification system. Not exactly a libertarian ideal.

They also have the whole universal state-provided health care thing too.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Australia banned the use of firearms for self-defense purposes. You can only own a gun if you apply to the state, prove you have a responsible way to store it, and show that you need it for something like hunting. Check out their classification system. Not exactly a libertarian ideal.

They also have the whole universal state-provided health care thing too.

But instead of some dumb fence they solved their illegal immigration problem by digging a giant moat around their country.

 

[Denny Crane]

I just watched Machete again last night. DiNero plays a Texas state senator who proposed an electric fence along the border. Yikes, is it coming to that in reality?

 

[Denny Crane]

Australia banned the use of firearms for self-defense purposes. You can only own a gun if you apply to the state, prove you have a responsible way to store it, and show that you need it for something like hunting. Check out their classification system. Not exactly a libertarian ideal.

They also have the whole universal state-provided health care thing too.

So it's not perfect. Las Vegas is quite libertarian. There are more security guards (private police) than real police. It work just fine. Prostitution is effectively legal, carrying guns is legal, gambling is legal, etc. No state income tax. Business tax was $35 per employee.

At least it was a very libertarian place, until the building boom and too many Californians moved there and tried to turn it into California via ballot measures.

You can become wealthy there in a hurry, or you can go bust. People have to be responsible for their own actions.

There's a much stronger union influence there than the rest of the country as well.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I'm not advocating one way or the other, just trying to understand...

You think that, if given the chance to magically become any type of government, the US should model itself after Vegas?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I'm not advocating one way or the other, just trying to understand...

You think that, if given the chance to magically become any type of government, the US should model itself after Vegas?

Only if Joe Pesci is President.

 

[barfo]

I'm not advocating one way or the other, just trying to understand...

You think that, if given the chance to magically become any type of government, the US should model itself after Vegas?

Why not? It's absolutely the libertarian ideal to have a country where on any given day you can wake up broke, married to someone you don't know, and missing a kidney.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

I'm not advocating one way or the other, just trying to understand...

You think that, if given the chance to magically become any type of government, the US should model itself after Vegas?

Sure.

I lived there 5+ years. It's not a whole lot different lifestyle than living in the LA suburbs. There's just a lot less traffic on the freeways.

 

[PapaG]

I just watched Machete again last night. DiNero plays a Texas state senator who proposed an electric fence along the border. Yikes, is it coming to that in reality?

No, it's obvious what we need is a moat with alligators.

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[BLAZER PROPHET]

Only if Joe Pesci is President.

I'll second his nomination.

 

[julius]

So it's not perfect. Las Vegas is quite libertarian. There are more security guards (private police) than real police. It work just fine. Prostitution is effectively legal, carrying guns is legal, gambling is legal, etc. No state income tax. Business tax was $35 per employee.

At least it was a very libertarian place, until the building boom and too many Californians moved there and tried to turn it into California via ballot measures.

You can become wealthy there in a hurry, or you can go bust. People have to be responsible for their own actions.

There's a much stronger union influence there than the rest of the country as well.

sounds like you're saying it was libertarian until people actually moved there and there was more then 8 people in the state.
;P

 

[Denny Crane]

sounds like you're saying it was libertarian until people actually moved there and there was more then 8 people in the state.
;P

Nah. Las Vegas had lots of people before the Californians came and speculated the real estate market into the ground.

One example of their change to the city was a ballot initiative to ban smoking in bars and restaurants. No way the casinos would let their business be killed over that social agenda.

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13790617/smoking-ban-costs-las-vegas-airport-millions

Smoking Ban Costs Las Vegas Airport Millions

(Obama and his big mouth cost Vegas $billions)

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.lvrj.com/news/42467047.html

CARSON CITY -- Bar and restaurant representatives told legislators Friday their customer base and profits have declined dramatically and they've been forced to lay off workers because of a smoking ban approved by voters in 2006.

The ban has also cost the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority $41 million in business, Senior Vice President Terry Jicinsky testified.

Jicinsky said his organization lost cigar and smoking industry trade shows to New Orleans because of the law that prohibits smoking in most public places that children can frequent. But he added he has a commitment from the trade shows to return to Las Vegas if legislators pass Senate Bill 372.

 

[julius]

wah. smokers can't smoke in airports.

 

[barfo]

I guess the libertarian view is, if you don't like lung cancer, you are free to use some other airport?

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

I guess the libertarian view is, if you don't like lung cancer, you are free to use some other airport?

barfo

They had designated smoking areas with slot machines. After the law passed, they had to remove those designated smoking areas. Capiche?

If you don't want to be near the smoke, stay away from the smoking areas. Or stay home.

 

[julius]

They had designated smoking areas with slot machines. After the law passed, they had to remove those designated smoking areas. Capiche?

If you don't want to be near the smoke, stay away from the smoking areas. Or stay home.

or people could just not smoke for 5 minutes and not stink up the place, god forbid.

 

[Denny Crane]

or people could just not smoke for 5 minutes and not stink up the place, god forbid.

But people do smoke. They used to smoke and play slots. Now they smoke outside by the curb, where there are no slots. People tend to smoke more when they're nervous, and flying does make people nervous.

And the smoking areas were glass walled rooms with dedicated ventilation system. You wouldn't even smell the smoke if you walked right past it. That's first hand experience, I've flown out of that airport dozens of times.

 

[barfo]

But people do smoke. They used to smoke and play slots. Now they smoke outside by the curb, where there are no slots.

So put some slots out by the curb. Problem solved.

barfo

 

[julius]

But people do smoke. They used to smoke and play slots. Now they smoke outside by the curb, where there are no slots. People tend to smoke more when they're nervous, and flying does make people nervous.

yah, well I don't smoke nor do I want to smell your stank ass smoke (not that you smoke). Nor do I want to breath in your stank ass smoke OR smell like your stank ass smoke.

And the smoking areas were glass walled rooms with dedicated ventilation system. You wouldn't even smell the smoke if you walked right past it. That's first hand experience, I've flown out of that airport dozens of times.

I've flown in and out of the SLC airport probably 20+ times in the last 10 years, and if you don't think you could always tell where the smoking section was, you either are lying to continue this poor argument or you have absolutely no sense of smell.

 

[Denny Crane]

So put some slots out by the curb. Problem solved.

barfo

How about the California people stay in California instead.

Sin City, it's called. Vices are what the place is about (for visitors).

 

[Denny Crane]

yah, well I don't smoke nor do I want to smell your stank ass smoke (not that you smoke). Nor do I want to breath in your stank ass smoke OR smell like your stank ass smoke.


I've flown in and out of the SLC airport probably 20+ times in the last 10 years, and if you don't think you could always tell where the smoking section was, you either are lying to continue this poor argument or you have absolutely no sense of smell.

I don't have any sympathy for you to know where the smoking areas are.

;-)

 

[julius]

I don't have any sympathy for you to know where the smoking areas are.

;-)

not sure I get what you're saying.

 

[julius]

How about the California people stay in California instead.

Sin City, it's called. Vices are what the place is about (for visitors).

as much as people like to crack on California, and Californians moving to new areas, they (imho) do more good then bad. Plus, I'd rather have people who want to live in the area move there, instead of people who bitch and want to keep it the same it was 60 years ago.

No, not all people (and it's not just Californians) moving into new areas is good, but I think the small town mentality of being afraid of people moving in OR the belief that people should be able to do whatever they want, isn't going to work anymore. That genie is out of the bottle anymore.

If you tell me that smokers can now smoke wherever they want, including sporting events, then I say we should do more. I say fuck over people in wheelchairs. I want to be able to park wherever I want, and not have to worry about them taking the good seats. I don't think that buildings should have wider doors, or elevators, or wheel chair only bathrooms.

It costs companies too much money.

 

[barfo]

How about the California people stay in California instead.

Sin City, it's called. Vices are what the place is about (for visitors).

Pretty sure Californians are a big chunk of the visitors. Your solution would cost more than the smoking ban.

barfo