MARIS61
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Your clients children are more likely to die in a car wreck driving there than to be murdered if they stayed here.
barfo
The crappy legal system is evil.Alice Johnson was released from prison by President Trump after serving almost 22 years for a nonviolent drug conviction.
Portland Crime Data - Crime Index = 4 (100 is safest)
Safer than 4% of U.S. Cities!
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/or/portland/crime
He even broke up with Putin. Kim, Jong Un is now his main squeeze.Lindsey GRAHAM "Tuesday we had a president that I was proud to golf with, call my friend, who understood immigration had to be bipartisan ... I don't know where that guy went. I want him back."
Awwwww... he lost his friend.
That's only from one side of his mouth. You've got to pay attention to the other side.Lots of talk in this about "job training" for prisoners and re-assimilating them into society, but our society is basically set up to exclude ex-convicts regardless of their best efforts. It doesn't seem to matter how much training or how many professional licenses people get if employers are going to automatically disqualify applicants with criminal records, which most do. Yeah, they "need to be able to get hired"--but what do you do if you have the training, but still nobody is willing to hire you?
And no, I don't claim in any way to have the answer, but for the President and these governors to act like job training will be some panacea ridiculously oversimplifies the issue.
You never know when some crazed Leftist is going to break into your house and you'll need to shoot him 20 times in the chest. Yes, it can happen in La Pine thanks to Lefties.And yet you are the guy who feels he needs a gun for protection when he walks in the woods in La Pine.
barfo
Portland Crime Data - Crime Index = 4 (100 is safest)
Safer than 4% of U.S. Cities!
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/or/portland/crime
And yet you are the guy who feels he needs a gun for protection when he walks in the woods in La Pine.
barfo
Where are rehabilitation centers located? Out in the country? Of course not. They dump them all in the cities.According to this website La Pine is only safer than 31% of US cities. Also I have not found a major US city that is better than 10%
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/or/la-pine/crime
You'd better prepare yourself for crazed Lefties trying to break into your homes in an attempt to steal your drugs and rape your white women.We're a tourist destination for Portlanders.
The black racists want to prey on white people and not have to go to prison.
I need to research things before I can be sarcastic?This is a stupid post.
Black people generally don't commit violent crimes against white people. Go look at the FBI crime data. I'll wait.
Proximity is a MF.
Do some research before you say shit you just made up.
It's very tricky and not always successful to pull off sarcasm in a public forum like this. There's a lot of nuance that get's missed or not communicated in written language.I need to research things before I can be sarcastic?
I need to research things before I can be sarcastic?
I've told you that my ability to refrain from being sarcastic is almost non existent.No..... And now that I know it's sarcasm it's actually pretty funny.
Y'all know my sarcasm meter is broken.
Black people generally don't commit violent crimes against white people.
Actually, he has not other recourse, should an Attorney General dig in his heels, than to fire the Attorney General and he wouldn't do that, would he?One of the biggest reasons President Trump asked for Jeff Sessions to retire was that Sessions refused to get on board with the President on Prison Reform, a main part of the platform he got elected on and an injustice he greatly wants to correct.
Trump: 'I make the decision' on prison reform, not Sessions
By REBECCA MORIN
10/11/2018 09:59 AM EDT
President Donald Trump said Thursday that the United States criminal justice system needs reform and is "very unfair to African-Americans" and that he would overrule Attorney General Jeff Sessions if he tried to stand in the way of changes.
The White House in August agreed to hold off on prison and sentencing reform legislation until after the midterm elections. The Department of Justice supported the stance, saying that the legislation would put "drug traffickers back on our streets."
But on Thursday, asked during a phone call with "Fox & Friends" whether Sessions is standing in the way of criminal justice reform, Trump said the decision is not up to the attorney general.
"He gets overruled by me," Trump said. "I make the decision, he doesn't."
"We do need reform, and that doesn't mean easy," the president said during the wide-ranging 40-minute interview. "We're going to make certain categories tougher when it comes to drug dealing and other things, but there has to be a reform because it is very unfair right now. It's very unfair to African-Americans. It is very unfair to everybody, and it is also very costly."
The president also touted that his "polls went up like 25 percent" after the rapper came out in support of him, adding that he has "a big, big following" and "is respected."
"You know what he wants? He is not asking anything for himself," Trump said. "He doesn't say, 'Gee, I want to do this or that.' He is a private guy. He wants to help people. I think maybe more than anything is prison reform because his wife was terrific, Kim. She brought the attention to Mrs. Johnson."
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/11/trump-prison-reform-892163
Not insignificant if you're the target of said crime. As far as statistics go, an awful lot of crime is unreported by the victime or by the police. I reported to the police in St. Louis that my czr was broken into. The apartment manager said they needed a copy of the police report that I filed before they could put their security on my apartment building out of the many buildings they managed. I went back the next day and asked for a copy of my report. The officer went into a back room and emerged after some time and said "What report?" They wadded it up and threw it in the trash as soon as I left after filing the report in the first place.Absolutely true.
Most violence against blacks is by blacks, and most violence against caucasians is by caucasians.
But let's ignore 95% of all crime and get everyone fixated on the anomaly of violent racism in America, something that is statistically insignificant.
Yes, that would be ironic. Clinton goofed with that and he goofed big time. However, Clinton was responding to political pressure to get tough on crime.Graham: 'Wouldn't It Be Ironic' If Trump Undid Bill Clinton's 'Three Strikes Law'
South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham said it would be "ironic" to see President Trump undo a harsh criminal justice law passed by President Bill Clinton in 1994.
Graham appeared to reference how the Clintons and Democrats writ large are seen as the people who want to help minorities and those who have served time in prison.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/11/...-three-strikes-rule-and-help-criminal-justice
Sean Hannity noted how, with the urging of Kim Kardashian West, Trump pardoned Alice Marie Johnson -- a grandmother who had been sentenced to decades behind bars for a drug conviction.
"Wouldn't it be ironic if it were Donald Trump that would fix the problems created by the 'three strikes, you're out' rule passed by Bill Clinton," Graham said. The law prescribes for harsher penalties for repeat offenders.
"Wouldn't it be ironic if [Trump] allowed thousands of African-American and Hispanic males a second chance," Graham said.
In 2015, Clinton said he regretted passing the Three Strikes Law, saying he "made a problem worse and I want to admit it," according to the BBC.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/11/...-three-strikes-rule-and-help-criminal-justice
Another of Trump's campaign promises kept? Does this mean Mexico is paying for the Wall?Unless a few anti-Trumpers obstruct, another of Trump's campaign promises will be kept.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/criminal-justice-reform-bill-clears-first-test-vote-in-senate
Criminal justice reform bill clears first test vote in Senate
Associated Press
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says lawmakers will vote on a bipartisan package after President Trump pressured him to get it done; chief congressional correspondent Mike Emanuel reports from Capitol Hill.
WASHINGTON – Legislation that would ease federal sentencing laws for some offenders cleared its first major test vote Monday, garnering overwhelming support in both parties even as some conservatives portrayed the bill as soft on crime.
The Senate voted 82-12 to advance the bill. A vote on final passage would come later in the week, but not until the chamber has debated and voted on a series of amendments from opponents that will be brought up Tuesday.
The bill would give judges more discretion when sentencing drug offenders and allow about 2,600 federal prisoners sentenced for crack cocaine offenses before August 2010 the opportunity to petition for a reduced penalty. The bill also encourages prisoners to participate in programs designed to reduce the risk of recidivism, with the reward being the accumulation of credits that can be used to gain an earlier release to a halfway house or home confinement to finish out their sentence.
To win over wary senators, sponsors tweaked the bill to prevent those convicted of violent firearm offenses, sexual exploitation of children and high-level fentanyl and heroin dealing from participating in the supervised release program -- but Senator Tom Cotton, R-Ark., and others want to expand that list.
Their amendment would add carjacking, bank robbery by force, felony sex crimes and other "felony crimes of violence" to the list of offenses that make a prisoner ineligible.
The bill has created a unique split in the GOP camp, while Democrats are overwhelmingly supportive.
Republican Sen. Mike Lee of Utah, a former federal prosecutor, is among the bill's champions. He said he has been haunted by the words of a federal judge who sentenced a low-level drug offender carrying a gun to 55 years in prison, noting that murderers, rapists and terrorists could get less time for their offense. He said only Congress could fix the problem.
"Those comments have stayed with me ever since," Lee said.
The bill follows the lead of states such as Texas that have experienced a decrease in crime in recent years while keeping fewer people in prison. Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said his home state has been able to close eight prisons since undertaking various prison reforms, such as investing in probation staffing and getting prisoners into drug treatment more quickly.
"This is not about being tough on crime, or soft on crime," Cornyn said. "This is about being smart on crime and getting the best results."
Supporters of the bill warn that amendments from Cotton and Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., could cause the compromise to unravel if the Senate approves any of them as early as Tuesday. A unique cross-section of liberal and conservative advocacy groups have rallied in support of the bill.
David Safavian, general counsel for the American Conservative Union, said the bill's critics ignore that offenders would be subject to strict oversight while completing their sentence at halfway houses or in home custody. The prisoners also have to show through objective criteria that they are a low risk to society before obtaining supervised release.
Under the current process, nearly half of released federal prisoners are arrested again.
"And every case of recidivism is another victim, is another crime, is another prosecution, is another trial, is another prison cell, all funded with taxpayer dollars," Safavian said. "I'm sorry, but there is nothing conservative about protecting a non-functioning prison bureaucracy."
If the legislation passes the Senate, the House is expected to approve it quickly. The House had earlier passed legislation that focused on boosting prisoner rehabilitation programs but did not include changes to sentencing laws that critics say had led to overly harsh sentences for many nonviolent offenders, particularly African-Americans.
The bill looked to have stalled a couple weeks ago, but supporters led by President Donald Trump and son-in-law Jared Kushner persuaded Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., to allow for the Senate vote before Congress adjourns.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/criminal-justice-reform-bill-clears-first-test-vote-in-senate
His only signature peace of legislation. Sure beats the Wall he's getting approved any day now.Congress has passed the bill.
President Trump will sign it into law tomorrow.![]()