Prince/Maxiell in a sign and trade for Hedo?

[Idog1976]

Now that Detroit is getting Charlie V. this could mean Maxiell is available. They supposedly wanted Hedo which means Prince is on the block.

We all know New Jersey is looking to get under the cap for 2010 and have cheap talent.


(Please note in the following trade Orlando is used as Hedo is currently listed as their player.)

This trade could satisfy all three teams needs. It would leave us thin at center but leave us with this lineup:

PG - Harris/Dooling/Mills
SG - Roy/CDR
SF - Prince/Batum/Claver
PF - LMA/Maxiell/Cunningham
C - Oden/LMA/Pendergraph


That starting lineup is the best in the league. Your depth is gone but your starting 5 is the best in the league and a defensive nightmare. Your bench has two defensive menaces in Batum and Maxiell. You consolidate your lineup to about 7 or 8 guys in the playoffs.

New Jersey saves an additional 8 million or keeps cheap young talent (Bayless, Fernandez). They would be roughly 18 million under the cap next year.

Thoughts? god I hope Dooling didn't go with VC. Hard to estimate the cap with VC still on the Nets.

 

[free_lafrentz]

You could accomplish getting Devin Harris with FAR less bodies.

 

[Idog1976]

You could accomplish getting Devin Harris with FAR less bodies.

I want Prince and Maxiell as well.

 

[Haakzilla]

Now that Detroit is getting Charlie V. this could mean Maxiell is available. They supposedly wanted Hedo which means Prince is on the block.

We all know New Jersey is looking to get under the cap for 2010 and have cheap talent.


(Please note in the following trade Orlando is used as Hedo is currently listed as their player.)

This trade could satisfy all three teams needs. It would leave us thin at center but leave us with this lineup:

PG - Harris/Dooling/Mills
SG - Roy/CDR
SF - Prince/Batum/Claver
PF - LMA/Maxiell/Cunningham
C - Oden/LMA/Pendergraph


That starting lineup is the best in the league. Your depth is gone but your starting 5 is the best in the league and a defensive nightmare. Your bench has two defensive menaces in Batum and Maxiell. You consolidate your lineup to about 7 or 8 guys in the playoffs.

New Jersey saves an additional 8 million or keeps cheap young talent (Bayless, Fernandez). They would be roughly 18 million under the cap next year.

Thoughts? god I hope Dooling didn't go with VC. Hard to estimate the cap with VC still on the Nets.

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[free_lafrentz]

I want Prince and Maxiell as well.

We're trading away 5 rotation players, 2 of which are our best 2 Point Guards.

I like the effort, but it's just too much stuff. You're trading away half of our team that plays regular minutes.

 

[Ed O]

I don't understand why you keep making sign and trade deals for Hedo, given sign and trades for players from other teams is not allowed.

Especially since you started this thread earlier, asked me to merge it, and started it over again after I merged it.

http://www.sportstwo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2055911&postcount=14

Ed O.

 

[Tyler_Hansbrough]

I don't understand why you keep making sign and trade deals for Hedo, given sign and trades for players from other teams is not allowed.

Especially since you started this thread earlier, asked me to merge it, and started it over again after I merged it.

http://www.sportstwo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2055911&postcount=14

Ed O.

Owned. Although I do like that trade lol

 

[Draco]

I don't believe that trade is allowed by the CBA.

Also Orlando would have to get some sort of compensation, at least future draft picks.

And I don't see New Jersey trading Harris. Cap space doesn't do them any good if they trade away everybody, that'd basically make them an expansion team. Good free agents want a chance to win.

 

[Idog1976]

I don't understand why you keep making sign and trade deals for Hedo, given sign and trades for players from other teams is not allowed.

Especially since you started this thread earlier, asked me to merge it, and started it over again after I merged it.

http://www.sportstwo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2055911&postcount=14

Ed O.

Gets Harris as well and seemed more likely with Charlie V. and Gordon being signed. Sorry.

Edit:

Also someone in another thread said you can do an S and T if the player knows and agrees to it.

 

[Idog1976]

I don't believe that trade is allowed by the CBA.

Also Orlando would have to get some sort of compensation, at least future draft picks.

And I don't see New Jersey trading Harris. Cap space doesn't do them any good if they trade away everybody, that'd basically make them an expansion team. Good free agents want a chance to win.

Orlando is in because Hedo is, according to the obviously out of date ESPN trade machine, still a member of Orlando. This assumes a sign and trade.

P.S. Your avatar rocks.

 

[Blue Magic]

Why wouldnt Hedo just let Orlando S&T him to Detroit? Why would he sign with Portland, just so that he could be immediately traded....

 

[Idog1976]

Why wouldnt Hedo just let Orlando S&T him to Detroit? Why would he sign with Portland, just so that he could be immediately traded....

Because Orlando can't sign him to as large of a contract as Portland can offer him. He wants the contract the team, if competitive, probably doesn't matter to him as much as the $.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Because Orlando can't sign him to as large of a contract as Portland can offer him. He wants the contract the team, if competitive, probably doesn't matter to him as much as the $.

Orlando can sign him for as much as they like since he's their former player and have bird rights, they aren't restrained by the cap in a way shape or form, conversely, Detroit has the cap room to absorb a larger contract than the amount of payroll they send out so in short, if Detroit wanted to do a sign and trade they could do it without including us -- and wouldn't.

 

[Ed O]

Also someone in another thread said you can do an S and T if the player knows and agrees to it.

I would love to see the source of how this is possible... I think that someone said it originated from Mike Barrett's blog, but since the salary cap FAQ seems very specific in saying it CANNOT happen, and since there hasn't been a single instance of this happening under the current CBA, I would bet a dollar to a donut it's not legal.

Ed O.