Pritchard's Replacement

[BGrantFan]

I know exactly who will be hired as our new GM. His name is "Yes-Man".

 

[BlazerWookee]

 

[B-Roy]

I'd go for hiring someone who isn't established really. Established GM's usually go out of their way to prove their worth once they're hired and make some...less than stellar moves.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'd go for hiring someone who isn't established really. Established GM's usually go out of their way to prove their worth once they're hired and make some...less than stellar moves.

I think most GMs tend to come in to situations where the previous regime has blundered and made a lot of missteps, which usually means a house cleaning is order ... that doesn't look like the case here. Some tweaks are certainly in order, and there's a whole of youth and redundancy with two guaranteed first round picks and another high second, but I get the feeling that Paul isn't going to want to do a complete tear down and rebuild and he ultimately has to sign off on any trade.

 

[Idog1976]

I think most GMs tend to come in to situations where the previous regime has blundered and made a lot of missteps, which usually means a house cleaning is order ... that doesn't look like the case here. Some tweaks are certainly in order, and there's a whole of youth and redundancy with two guaranteed first round picks and another high second, but I get the feeling that Paul isn't going to want to do a complete tear down and rebuild and he ultimately has to sign off on any trade.

I hope not. My biggest fear is trading Oden and/or Batum and having them blow up to multiple time All-Stars. I hope the new GM uses a light touch and doesn't even think about tradin Roy, Oden or Batum. Obvious exceptions to this would be a trade for LeBron, Wade or CP3.

 

[RoyToy]

If the Blazers don't make any major moves and win big, the new GM will have to hear that he won with Pritchard's team. Have fun with that.

I have a feeling Pritchard's name will be around for a long time.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Mike Born.

 

[Nikolokolus]

And who was the GM when the Kings got so bad that they resembled the Blazers of 05-06?

The really good GM's don't allow their teams to get that bad for long. The Jazz lost Stockton and Malone, took a one year dump, and were back and running. Ditto with the Lakers. The Whitsitt Blazers never even fell out of the playoffs in the transition from Drexler to Rider to Pippen. In 22 seasons, the Spurs have had a sub-47 win team exactly twice.

Like I said, I'm OK with Petrie. He seems, um, adequate. But I'm not expecting great things out of him. He assembled a fantastic Kings team very comparable to those Jazz/Lakers/Spurs/Blazers squads, which is to his credit. But he hasn't shown much capacity for sustained greatness. Which is what I think a team featuring Batum, Oden, Aldridge and Roy could become.

To be fair, I don't think Pritchard showed that capacity either. But I'd say the jury was still out on him.

Petrie (or was it the Maloofs?) tried to hang on too long, trying to stay competitive by reaching for mid level targets like Udrih and trading for Ron-Ron. No GM is perfect, but in Petrie's time in the league he helped build two really strong teams (first with the Blazers and then those Webber, Divac, Peja teams), has endured a down period and with the Maloofs no longer meddling in basketball ops he's been able to shed a lot of salary, acquire some very promising young players and they look to be poised for being a very, very competitive team in another couple years when some of these youngsters get some experience.

Really though, I think the chances of Petrie coming back to Portland are somewhere south of 1%, so none of this speculation about him coming back much matters.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

RC Buford

 

[oldmangrouch]

It's now being reported that Rod Thorn will step down from his job with the Nets on July 15th. Take that FWIW.

 

[ABM]

So, one of the front-runners is (what's his name?) the Assistant GM in Phoenix?

 

[oldmangrouch]

So, one of the front-runners is (what's his name?) the Assistant GM in Phoenix?

Kerr steps down, and this guy didn't get the promotion. Can you say "red flag"?

 

[BGrantFan]

Kerr steps down, and this guy didn't get the promotion. Can you say "red flag"?

He'll be cheap and he'll be eager for a job, I guess. So, that's a plus. I hope he likes Bert Kolde's arm up his ass, though.

 

[Ed O]

Kerr steps down, and this guy didn't get the promotion. Can you say "red flag"?

Griffin left after Kerr did and told the team he didn't want to be considered as a replacement.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2010/06/17/20100617phoenix-suns-david-griffin.html

Looks like he did what several Paul Allen-bashers claimed Born/Buchanan would do when KP was let go.

Ed O.

 

[BGrantFan]

Looks like he did what several Paul Allen-bashers claimed Born/Buchanan would do when KP was let go.

Ed O.

Who said that? You and your strawmen. It's comical.

 

[Ed O]

Who said that? You and your strawmen. It's comical.

I advise you to read the board rather than keep asking me to re-read it to you. Like you asking about who was hoping for Paul Allen's death... stuff gets posted here that you seem to just miss entirely, and then you act like I'm making it up.

Ed O.

 

[BGrantFan]

I advise you to read the board rather than keep asking me to re-read it to you. Like you asking about who was hoping for Paul Allen's death... stuff gets posted here that you seem to just miss entirely, and then you act like I'm making it up.

Ed O.

Who said Born and Buchanon would leave? And who said they hoped Paul Allen would die? Isn't it up to you to prove these strawmen, rather than assume that people have read every post on the board.

It's fairly easy to link some factual evidence to such claims, isn't it? I thought you were an attorney. Don't you need to back up your claims in court with evidence when questioned?

 

[noknobs]

Who said Born and Buchanon would leave?

http://sportstwo.com/threads/162263...-Stands-Strong-(Columbian)?highlight=buchanan

who said they hoped Paul Allen would die?

http://sportstwo.com/threads/162441-Merged-KP-FIRED!-(merged)/page4?highlight=Fired
#75 & #76

it up to you to prove these strawmen, rather than assume that people have read every post on the board.

Well you posted in both those threads. Multiple times.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Griffin left after Kerr did and told the team he didn't want to be considered as a replacement.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2010/06/17/20100617phoenix-suns-david-griffin.html

Looks like he did what several Paul Allen-bashers claimed Born/Buchanan would do when KP was let go.

Ed O.

Who said that? You and your strawmen. It's comical.

No, the comment was aimed at me. If KP gets a new job soon, I'm of the opinion B&B will leave to join him, rather than stay here hoping for a promotion.

 

[Ed O]

No, the comment was aimed at me. If KP gets a new job soon, I'm of the opinion B&B will leave to join him, rather than stay here hoping for a promotion.

I actually wasn't taking a shot at anyone. I just AM saying that Griffin seems to be fed up with the Suns ownership and removed himself from the situation rather than filling the gap post-Kerr.

Maybe it was because he knew he was going to be on his way out, anyway, but it's evidence that Allen's not the only owner capable of alienating his employees.

Ed O

 

[Nate4Prez]

Nets ownership will try to move quickly on a replacement, and sources say potential targets will include Oklahoma City GM Sam Presti, New Orleans GM Jeff Bower and San Antonio Spurs GM R.C. Buford. Nets assistant GM Bobby Marks, who has drawn interest in the Portland Trail Blazers’ search, is a strong candidate, too.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ArPdsyNrbvHrbXFlT.T8y0u8vLYF?slug=aw-lebronjayz062510

 

[Drttimmy]

I'm kind of surprised there's so much love for the idea of adding Petrie. He's made some great moves over the years, but really, look at the Kings now versus eight years ago. After Webber started falling apart, the team took a slow steady dump down the toilet. There was a time when they were better than the Lakers and would've won the championship if the refs hadn't been crooked, and now look at them. After all the years of rebuilding they've got Tyreke Evans (awesome!) and, uh, hmm. They even got rid of Adelman, who proved in Houston that he was definitely not the problem.

I guess it goes to show the dearth of great options that the GM of a team that has steadily spiraled down from .720 to .305 over 8 years is considered a real "get."

From what I understand, the Maloofs are equally, if not more meddlesome, than our own Paul Allen. Petrie gets overruled and directed a lot by them. I think he's a terrific talent evaluator. Martin was a later round gem. Thompson was a widely ridiculed pick at the time, but has proven solid. Hawes was a misfire maybe, but it's probably fair to say at this point, that 07 was VASTLY over-rated talent pool. More importantly, how would you rate his moves as our GM?

 

[Drttimmy]

It's now being reported that Rod Thorn will step down from his job with the Nets on July 15th. Take that FWIW.

And we thought Pritchard over-valued his players....

 

[BGrantFan]

No, the comment was aimed at me. If KP gets a new job soon, I'm of the opinion B&B will leave to join him, rather than stay here hoping for a promotion.

Oh, well I said the same thing then. I didn't expect them to walk out the door with Pritchard, though. In fact, I posted the opposite, in that Pritchard helped protect them for another year or two before he gets a new gig and then promotes them.

So, it was another strawman, because I've yet to read a post that says B and B would follow Pritchard out the door.

 

[Ed O]

Oh, well I said the same thing then. I didn't expect them to walk out the door with Pritchard, though. In fact, I posted the opposite, in that Pritchard helped protect them for another year or two before he gets a new gig and then promotes them.

So you said the same thing, but the opposite of what he said?

So, it was another strawman, because I've yet to read a post that says B and B would follow Pritchard out the door.

Haha. OMG says that I am talking about what he said, but you are calling it a strawman?

WTF is wrong with you? Haha.

Ed O.

 

[maxiep]

http://sportstwo.com/threads/162263...-Stands-Strong-(Columbian)?highlight=buchanan

http://sportstwo.com/threads/162441-Merged-KP-FIRED!-(merged)/page4?highlight=Fired
#75 & #76


Well you posted in both those threads. Multiple times.

Since I wrote post #75, I can say emphatically I did not write that I hoped Paul Allen would die. I wrote that he was likely going to be dead in 24 months from cancer. There's a difference.

 

[Ed O]

Since I wrote post #75, I can say emphatically I did not write that I hoped Paul Allen would die. I wrote that he was likely going to be dead in 24 months from cancer. There's a difference.

The post after you did (I thought it was a strawman, though!?!) and you strongly implied you look forward to his death.

Ed O.

 

[maxiep]

The post after you did (I thought it was a strawman, though!?!) and you strongly implied you look forward to his death.

Ed O.

You assumed wrong. I didn't strongly imply I wished for his death. I don't wish for anyone's--except for a few evil dictators--death. I look forward to Paul Allen no longer owning this team, just as I look forward to Dan Snyder no longer owning my Redskins. I don't wish them death.

 

[Ed O]

You assumed wrong. I didn't strongly imply I wished for his death. I don't wish for anyone's--except for a few evil dictators--death. I look forward to Paul Allen no longer owning this team, just as I look forward to Dan Snyder no longer owning my Redskins. I don't wish them death.

Look at how your post was constructed:

1. You admit you're going to sound like a dick.
2. You claim Paul Allen will be dead in two years.
3. You say you look forward to the next ownership group.

That is entirely consistent with you hoping for his death. Not necessarily on a personal level for him, but because it would make your Blazers fandom more enjoyable.

I fail to see, actually, how else your post could be read.

Ed O.

 

[Minstrel]

I fail to see, actually, how else your post could be read.

I didn't read it that way. I read it as he looks forward to someone else owning the team and, unlike most owners, there's good reason to believe that an ownership change is coming.